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UFO on Earth according to Defence Prime Minister WTF?

siftedunity

cant re Member
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no I haven't, haven't seen anyone raised from the dead either . but I haven't seen aliens either, nor the gold that is supposed to be in fort knox. just because I haven't seen things doesent mean it isent possible or true, I really don't worry about if any of the bible is true or if there is aliens, way to busy trying to survive in this mucked up world, here a couple months ago a man offered 500,000 to anyone that could prove anything in genises wasent true, he still has his money. no one has.




1.for a start snakes cant speak.....at least not to humans!
2.and I am pretty sure dinosaurs appeared way before birds and fish..
3. you cant carve a human out of a rib, which then turns into a fully functional human being/women..

that's three facts which id say prove its not true. what do I need to do to collect my money lol.


I hate religion.. causes far more problems than it solves..
 
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TribalSeeds

1.for a start snakes cant speak.....at least not to humans!
2.and I am pretty sure dinosaurs appeared way before birds and fish..
3. you cant carve a human out of a rib, which then turns into a fully functional human being/women..

that's three facts which id say prove its not true. what do I need to do to collect my money lol.


I hate religion.. causes far more problems than it solves..

Not all dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago. One group survived, and we see their descendents every day. We call them birds.
Their early ancestors ate fish, homie
Snakes can speak to people on hallucinogens
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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Honestly, I wouldn't go to the Bible for anything, let alone for an accurate history


there's plenty of archeological proof that confirms the stories as well as the time-lines of the history as contained in the old testament.

so you're talking out of ignorance basically.

come to Israel anytime you want, take a tour to Masada, to the archeological sites in Jerusalem, just to name quite a low % of active archeological sites here, and see for yourself.

layers of earth from the first temple period up to the British Mandate, all of them uncovered before your very eyes, confirming the same time-lines as written in the old testament.

but not only in the old testament, but as well in the historical records made by each of the empires that conquered this place.

so again, first educate yourself, then talk.

now there's a pretty amazing exposition about Herod in the Museum of Israel, you cannot just turn a blind eye to the actual physical proof.
 

HUGE

Active member
Veteran
1.for a start snakes cant speak.....at least not to humans!
2.and I am pretty sure dinosaurs appeared way before birds and fish..
3. you cant carve a human out of a rib, which then turns into a fully functional human being/women..

that's three facts which id say prove its not true. what do I need to do to collect my money lol.


I hate religion.. causes far more problems than it solves..

The bible is not meant to be read literally. I hate religion as much as the next guy. But there is something deeper to this world than the material and we know very little aboit what's really going on. Try keeping an open mind. Yiu wouod be suprised.
 

skullznroses

that aint nothing but 10 cent lovin
Veteran
there's plenty of archeological proof that confirms the stories as well as the time-lines of the history as contained in the old testament.

so you're talking out of ignorance basically.

come to Israel anytime you want, take a tour to Masada, to the archeological sites in Jerusalem, just to name quite a low % of active archeological sites here, and see for yourself.

layers of earth from the first temple period up to the British Mandate, all of them uncovered before your very eyes, confirming the same time-lines as written in the old testament.

but not only in the old testament, but as well in the historical records made by each of the empires that conquered this place.

so again, first educate yourself, then talk.

now there's a pretty amazing exposition about Herod in the Museum of Israel, you cannot just turn a blind eye to the actual physical proof.

Sure if you go to the middle east you will find actual things from the bible. I have done this once when in Africa, travelling as far north as Alexandria. Many sites standing from pre-Christ era, and some of them superbly preserved. So this far I will agree with what you are saying, that indeed many things in the bible are real, and proof is available.

What I can also tell you is that to get that close to Biblical sites also reinforces whatever level you choose to believe before seeing the proof. Sure if you are a deep believer then now you are really convinced with actual proof of everything you have read. But if you don't believe the bible beyond the everyday ordinary truths contained, then you become even more skeptical. They want to sell you a map of where Jesus was born in every town for 30 miles. Special tours of extra holy sites, with tales of saints giving blessings, a piece of the robe from the actual saint... the spot where the angel spoke to Michael... the holy lands are awash with tourism surrounding the Bible, and they certainly ad creed to the fact that much in the bible is highly exaggerated or totally falsified to inspire belief.
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
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Three times in my life I have seen three amazing sights of what is known as UFO's.

This year I heard some strange sound I can't describe as I got in my car for work. It was six am and I just could not make out the direction of where the sound/noise was coming from. I decided it was emanating from the sky. Went on for about fifteen minutes. The strangest experience. Have also seen youtube uploads from all over the world on this phenomena.

Something is going on, there are many conspiracy theories on all of it. This makes it hard to discern the truth. Personally I think the Canadian people are thinking people and what the ministry of defence had to say may be of some value and therefore should be considered.

As for the idea of blurring his mouth I found to be true but as I can lip read obviously as he spoke I watched his mouth and movements and found the minister of defence was speaking those words.

But still. Who knows?

I saw that apparently these very loud strange sounds have been heard around the world lately..
http://dorsi.hubpages.com/hub/Strange-sounds-in-the-sky-from-around-the-world
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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makes sense of what i've personally witnessed. like dannyboy, i believe.
perhaps god is an alien...it would certainly appear to lesser intelligences that anyone arriving from on 'high' would be a 'God', especially before we were capable of flight ourselves.
there is no contradiction between gods and aliens, they would be one and the same in many cultures...jus' sayin'.
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
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The bible is not meant to be read literally


Considering the current version is a selective use , deletion or reworking of several previous translations written later from an original vocal tradition , its does not inspire confidence as a textbook on how to live now.

Blessed are the cheesemakers . . .


Tried to deprogramme a creationist once , complete waste of effort on a mind slowly closed from birth.

A comprehensive collection of fossils did not sway him as they were all individually put there by god to test our faith , and radio dateing is fake too along with the ancient cave paintings.



This makes some good points

It’s Fun to Believe in Weird Things

Contrary to conventional wisdom, people of all levels of education like to believe in “weird things,” says Michael Shermer of the Skeptical Inquirer. Shermer wrote that people tend to seek or interpret evidence favorable to existing beliefs and ignore or misinterpret evidence unfavorable to those beliefs.

This is no more obvious than in the writings of “creationist scientists” who either reject or grossly misinterpret geological, biological and astronomical data to support their biblical-based belief in an 8,000 year-old universe.

This “confirmation bias” is in real science as well. The classic example is the 1903 discovery of “N-rays” a completely new form of radiation announced by Prosper-René Blondlot. At the time, dozens of other scientists confirmed the existence of N-rays in their own laboratories. But further tests showed that N-rays don’t exist at all.

How could so many scientists be wrong? They deceived themselves into thinking they were seeing something with their instruments that in fact was not there. This came on the heels of Wilhelm Rontgen’s discovery of X-rays and Paul Ulrich Villard’s discovery of gamma rays in the early 1900s. Apparently there was a predisposition to expecting that other invisible forms of radiation must permeate the universe.

Collectively, UFO stories are a sci-fi inspired projection of how we think space visitors would look and behave. Despite over 60 years of “sightings,” the purported scientific evidence is largely anecdotal and uncorroborated. The Mars Science Lab landing left more physical evidence strewn on the Red Planet than thousands of alleged flying saucers reported over the decades.


Stronger belief in the east than the west, overlap with religious spirit traditional thinking where Ikey stole his idea from.

The Reuters Ipsos poll of 23,000 adults in 22 countries showed that more than 40 percent of people from India and China believe that aliens walk among us disguised as humans



Some media popular alien theories debunked.

http://listverse.com/2010/07/06/10-human-creations-attributed-to-aliens/
 
there's plenty of archeological proof that confirms the stories as well as the time-lines of the history as contained in the old testament.

so you're talking out of ignorance basically.

come to Israel anytime you want, take a tour to Masada, to the archeological sites in Jerusalem, just to name quite a low % of active archeological sites here, and see for yourself.

layers of earth from the first temple period up to the British Mandate, all of them uncovered before your very eyes, confirming the same time-lines as written in the old testament.

but not only in the old testament, but as well in the historical records made by each of the empires that conquered this place.

so again, first educate yourself, then talk.

now there's a pretty amazing exposition about Herod in the Museum of Israel, you cannot just turn a blind eye to the actual physical proof.

I never said that the history in the Bible is wrong. On the contrary, I know much of it is accurate (and also much of it isnt). But, like I actually went on to say, there is nothing in the Bible that you can't get from somewhere else, somewhere else that isn't tainted.

You prove that by listing archaeology. So we can actually go and dig it up and get real empirical evidence, or we can just read some ancient text and pick and choose what's real and what's not by sifting through all the shit.

I've actually studied archaeology at a university level, so I know exactly how accurate the Bible is in its depiction of history, and how flawed it is. It can be used as a guide at the very beginning of the process. That's it.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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I think that when we were early human we wanted answers for our existence much like we do now. I think that is why gods first came about, to explain the unexplained. I spent my youth in religious schools, and I took sciences in university so I've formed my opinions from a pretty rounded education of the two.

I think we should all follow our beliefs in life but god and religion imo has caused more harm than good, most religions being used as the justification for wars and repression and has sometimes lead to the most repressive regimes around the globe. jmo
 
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TribalSeeds

lol

I very much doubt adam and eve too hallucinogens, its pretty common knowledge that birds evolved from reptiles therefore like I said dinosaurs evolved before birds. lol

If its pretty common knowledge, why cant you get it right?
Nowhere did any of that say dinosaurs evolved before birds. Its says that "birds are dinosaurs" that survived and that more dinosaurs were covered in feathers than they previously thought.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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If its pretty common knowledge, why cant you get it right?
Nowhere did any of that say dinosaurs evolved before birds. Its says that "birds are dinosaurs" that survived and that more dinosaurs were covered in feathers than they previously thought.

I did get it right I said ''dinosaurs appeared before birds''
can you not read? you need to read if your gonna call me out.

birds evolved from dinosaurs.... they are not dinosaurs. do you understand scientific classifications? hence why dinosaurs were reptiles birds are Avialae.

I think your taking the webpage headline of your link too literally. google evolution..
 

festerous

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The bible is not meant to be read literally. I hate religion as much as the next guy. But there is something deeper to this world than the material and we know very little aboit what's really going on. Try keeping an open mind. Yiu wouod be suprised.
If you factor in the whole alien thing the bible makes sense if you read it literally.
 
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texsativa

I did get it right I said ''dinosaurs appeared before birds''
can you not read? you need to read if your gonna call me out.

birds evolved from dinosaurs.... they are not dinosaurs. do you understand scientific classifications? hence why dinosaurs were reptiles birds are Avialae.

I think your taking the webpage headline of your link too literally. google evolution..

Birds did arise from fish, diverging over time. It makes sense for procreation to happen in water first, then land. Land is much harsher, might dry out eggs, etc.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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Birds did arise from fish, diverging over time. It makes sense for procreation to happen in water first, then land. Land is much harsher, might dry out eggs, etc.


i didnt say what birds evolved from lol i know a lot of life evolved in water though. i always found it fascinating that whales once lived on land then slowly moved into the sea. their ancestors looked kinda like foxes/dogs.
 
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