Lemon Larry
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Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers
- Thread starter gomer
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Nobody sells their best stuff cheap. Clubs charge what they can get...
I understanding refusing to trim if you only get one k per pound!
I understanding refusing to trim if you only get one k per pound!
The person getting lower prices has to ask himself. Is my weed actually good? Or is there growers ego involved( common sympton)? Cause I have seen same prices for various folks for about a solid year straight.
Comes down to
-Weed you think is good, but its not.
-The buyer, and lack of other buyers to bounce off of.
-Hay, horses love it but we hate it.
-Also, not adjusting to trends, yes people are spoiled now, they get good stuff, if your epic weed does not fall in the categories of the right smell, look, trich's etc...it gets turned down or lowballed. I have seen that personally, but i dont blame it on " prices are plummeting", I blame that on my lack of attention to what folks enjoy, or not being prepared for future runs properly . Some cant get passed growers ego though and just go Obama and start blaming everything in front of them.
Comes down to
-Weed you think is good, but its not.
-The buyer, and lack of other buyers to bounce off of.
-Hay, horses love it but we hate it.
-Also, not adjusting to trends, yes people are spoiled now, they get good stuff, if your epic weed does not fall in the categories of the right smell, look, trich's etc...it gets turned down or lowballed. I have seen that personally, but i dont blame it on " prices are plummeting", I blame that on my lack of attention to what folks enjoy, or not being prepared for future runs properly . Some cant get passed growers ego though and just go Obama and start blaming everything in front of them.
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NorC@liGrower
Very well said. Unfortunately because of all the low grade crap in the market it devalues to good stuff. Peeps not very willing to pay up.
the government over taxing legal pot would be beneficial for those in the underground...the main threat to the standard quasi-legal or illegal grower is the crash of prices in a legal market, but if they are imposing 50$ dollar taxes per ounce and making the cost of permits and fees so high that the legal market will still have to charge 200-250 an OZ, there will always be a black market to undercut prices. just depends on how low it goes before its not worth it anymore.
for the oregon law 1500 in federal fees suck but its not that much compared to the 10k alcohol fees and other business fees that legal business have to pay...margins on marijuana are ridiculous you can make your investment back within one crop, in most major agriculural investments like vineyards it can easily take 5 years to make it back to break-even...
for the oregon law 1500 in federal fees suck but its not that much compared to the 10k alcohol fees and other business fees that legal business have to pay...margins on marijuana are ridiculous you can make your investment back within one crop, in most major agriculural investments like vineyards it can easily take 5 years to make it back to break-even...
Oily Farmer
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I've never understood the value placed on cannabis, truly. Forget market demand, that's just a fascist capitalistic approach to making more profit. If the demand increases, increase production, not prices. Greed...
I have proven to disbelievers in the past that cannabis is cheap to grow. I'm currently growing my 13th indoor crop using a grow tent and 600 watt HID lamp. My average cost per gram has been steadily decreasing, from $0.95 per gram to $0.34 per gram. For those growing in a greenhouse or outdoors, my best guesstimate is that it's even cheaper, possible less than $0.005 per gram. That's correct, 1/2 of 1 cent per gram. The majority of expenses go to nutrients, little to no electricity, free water when one has their own well (minor electric cost for pump usage), and no seed expense because the plants come from cuttings.
People need to jump off the bandwagon that they can't feed their families if they charge less, or that they can't operate a dispensary if they were to charge less.
Maybe it's time for all stoners to reevaluate the value of cannabis... it's highly overpriced.
Just my opinion on the subject...
Happy oily farming...
I have proven to disbelievers in the past that cannabis is cheap to grow. I'm currently growing my 13th indoor crop using a grow tent and 600 watt HID lamp. My average cost per gram has been steadily decreasing, from $0.95 per gram to $0.34 per gram. For those growing in a greenhouse or outdoors, my best guesstimate is that it's even cheaper, possible less than $0.005 per gram. That's correct, 1/2 of 1 cent per gram. The majority of expenses go to nutrients, little to no electricity, free water when one has their own well (minor electric cost for pump usage), and no seed expense because the plants come from cuttings.
People need to jump off the bandwagon that they can't feed their families if they charge less, or that they can't operate a dispensary if they were to charge less.
Maybe it's time for all stoners to reevaluate the value of cannabis... it's highly overpriced.
Just my opinion on the subject...
Happy oily farming...
Do those calculations include labor or is that free? Trimming, transplanting, cloning, packaging.. Etc..
You cannot compare growing in a tent or in a spare room ect, to running a show that provides to many patients quality meds.
Skill is most what I see lacking, not capital or equipment.
Skill is most what I see lacking, not capital or equipment.
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OrganicOzarks
$4k for indoor. Outdoor Cali goes for $2.5-3K. Even if it's been tumbled. People here are stupid. I can't believe they buy tumbled weed, and most of them don't even know it until someone points it out.
once again a small timer with a 600 watt closet dictating what the cost to grow pot is in a commercial setting...its been done over and over and over and you're always wrong. you have no idea the costs involved in running a large scale grow operation...im not gonna break the costs anymore since ive already done that for the 3-4 people before you who have made such naive claims..
First, you need a place to grow. Then you need soil or hydro.
A cloner or cloning equipment. Nutrients. Bulb, hood, ballast. Tent or a room. Environmental controllers, fans.
Trimmers, pest control, electrical components. Gas bill if using natG c02, co2 burner. Bags, storage, etc.
Just a few things you conveniently left out.
Not as cheap as you think.
Oily Farmer
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Wow, calm down folks, just giving my opinion, based on fact and figures I might add...
Yes4Prop215, small time grower, me? You don't know shit, so you might want to have a seat, roll a fatty, and chill dude...
As I've said, I've proven the cost of growing and have taken the mystery out of it...
macdiesel, you might want to roll a fatty and chill out as well...
First the place to grow... in my back yard. Next...
Equipment - Greenhouse Kit, 3.5 x 6 x 2.5 meters, each 700 Euro, etc, etc, etc....
I could go on with the list I didn't conveniently leave out, but if you insist, I can provide a detailed list of equipment and their associated costs, one time and repeated costs.
I'm currently working on a project that involves cutting, propagating, vegging, flowering, harvesting, drying, and curing 100 plants per month (wow, all this from a small time 600w grower, amazing).
All one time costs have been paid, only nutrients/water/electricity/growing medium are considered in the cost per gram. As for labor, that would be me, and I don't over inflate the worth of my time. Well ok, there will be a couple of people that will help me during harvest, but I pay them in bud and hash...
Whenever some of you doubting stoners want to discuss this in greater detail, let me know. I have the facts and figures, bring your opinions...
Till then, chill out...
Happy farming...
Yes4Prop215, small time grower, me? You don't know shit, so you might want to have a seat, roll a fatty, and chill dude...
As I've said, I've proven the cost of growing and have taken the mystery out of it...
macdiesel, you might want to roll a fatty and chill out as well...
First the place to grow... in my back yard. Next...
Equipment - Greenhouse Kit, 3.5 x 6 x 2.5 meters, each 700 Euro, etc, etc, etc....
I could go on with the list I didn't conveniently leave out, but if you insist, I can provide a detailed list of equipment and their associated costs, one time and repeated costs.
I'm currently working on a project that involves cutting, propagating, vegging, flowering, harvesting, drying, and curing 100 plants per month (wow, all this from a small time 600w grower, amazing).
All one time costs have been paid, only nutrients/water/electricity/growing medium are considered in the cost per gram. As for labor, that would be me, and I don't over inflate the worth of my time. Well ok, there will be a couple of people that will help me during harvest, but I pay them in bud and hash...
Whenever some of you doubting stoners want to discuss this in greater detail, let me know. I have the facts and figures, bring your opinions...
Till then, chill out...
Happy farming...
I might want to discuss tier five electricity pricing, .45 cents a square foot rent ect. but I don't have any experience or know how any way.
I like the go get high idea
I like the go get high idea
Cool so ur saying ur calculations are based on outdoor growing w/ no startup costs or labor included...
Ya take out those two things (labor n startup n cost of land/rent) n the cost of producing herb in the open sun is very cheap.. Too bad those arent real world options for most..
Ya take out those two things (labor n startup n cost of land/rent) n the cost of producing herb in the open sun is very cheap.. Too bad those arent real world options for most..
I know a larger grower who figures his cost per pound at around two thousand dollars and that might seem like a lot but paying for a facility and the electrical costs are the major part of the cost. It is also a very labor intensive process so those costs mentioned are totally unrealistic.
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frito bandito
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We can continue this thread for a hundred pages....please folks, continue giving us excuse after excuse why it is impossible for you to produce bud any cheaper. I'm sure it will make you feel better thinking you're "in the right" (safety in numbers...surrounded by fellow dittoheads) when you pile up on and dismiss as foolish anyone who thinks it can be done cheaper. After all, if YOU can't personally imagine it, then it can't be done, right? Maybe if you raise your voices loud enough and repeat your words often enough they will go away and shut up. (For now.) But guess what's going to happen, folks? Somebody IS going to figure out a way to do it cheaper. Somebody IS going to put together a factory that turns out the highest quality bud for $.005 a gram, day in and day out. What kind of excuses and rationalizations will you use then, to justify why you're now out of business?
Lemon Larry
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They already do that shit and we call it schwag.
I simply stated what a person needs in order to grow. What does your 600w have to do with a greenhouse?
You're all over the place trying to prove your point which is unreasonable.
