how long you need to maintain 120? if i turn my fans off, my room hits 130 in a couple hours.
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Broad Mites?
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GreenGuySF
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I've heard in this thread that an hour's fine to kill em off.
anyone tried calcium thiosulfate as a dud remedy? storm recommended it in the sdf thread but i know nothing about it.
greekgardner
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been two weeks since spraying and heating my veg room,plants just don't seem to respond,it really slowed them down
GreenGuySF
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Did you use aspirin?
Some old dude
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Watermelon
Watermelon
I read somewhere that farmers in California noticed a strain or watermelon that was not affected like some other strains nearby, only 4 % on this strain was affected while neighboring melons had to be heavily treated. So now they bread that strain in the California melon crops.They will still find broads in the patches but at significantly reduced rates.I have a Larry og that gets pumbled by the toxin at the same time my Mr Nice SSH after the plant grows out of initial toxin the flower appears completely normal smell, scoped trics, good vigor. Same with the "Blue venom". But, I am giving them aspirin as well.
Watermelon
I read somewhere that farmers in California noticed a strain or watermelon that was not affected like some other strains nearby, only 4 % on this strain was affected while neighboring melons had to be heavily treated. So now they bread that strain in the California melon crops.They will still find broads in the patches but at significantly reduced rates.I have a Larry og that gets pumbled by the toxin at the same time my Mr Nice SSH after the plant grows out of initial toxin the flower appears completely normal smell, scoped trics, good vigor. Same with the "Blue venom". But, I am giving them aspirin as well.
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OrganicOzarks
6 Days, and my other mother is starting to look normal. All mothers are looking good. Clones are growing very well, and I am going to flip a room in a few days. The funny thing about this is out of 4 rooms, 3 got the mites, and one did not. I have no idea how that happened. I will harvest that room starting in a few days, and it will be finished in a week or so, as it is a multi strain.
As far as the toxin in the plant goes I am going to soil drench, and foliar feed compost tea twice per week for the next few months. It is a lot of work to brew that much tea, but they are going to need it. Bombarding with good bacteria, protozoa, and fungi will only help.
As far as the toxin in the plant goes I am going to soil drench, and foliar feed compost tea twice per week for the next few months. It is a lot of work to brew that much tea, but they are going to need it. Bombarding with good bacteria, protozoa, and fungi will only help.
Broad mites are known for that, they strike erratically. Sometimes leaving certain plants unmolested without explanation!
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OrganicOzarks
It is weird as hell.
curious as to what strains you had to pitch? I have some strains I'm still trying to nurse back to health after completely erradicating them almost a year ago, some bounced back, and some were tossed a long time ago
I've noticed strains that are indicas won't rebound as easily. I had Ghost, SFV, White, LA Confidential, Green Crack, and Afkansastan have serious trouble regaining vigor
Some old dude
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The Toxins
The Toxins
In my case I was referring to the recovery from the toxin.I have noticed some plants never fully recover from the affects while others do. The SSH was just as wrecked as all the other so was the "Blue venom" (I always catch the broad mite damage early) it was looking the same as all the other mothers (I had about six different strain "tester mothers". Looking for keepers. They all had the beginning of damage slight blistering and a few (not many) leaves starting to "Claw". I am going to keep the larry Og as I have had this cut for a long time and it recovers just takes longer to do so.Trick is to find a way to keep mothers clean without using strong chems. One thing I do know is while your grow may be interrupted and be down due to toxins with less grows over a year's time some strains work better than others.A combination is not set in stone yet for me but it involves Heat, aspirin, swirskii mites, and probably some form of fungus. At different times and schedules.so I can get away from the Judo I have been having to use.Something rather important I forgot to add. I have four SSH pheno's in the flower room all look like keepers just slight differences in height smell ect (in other words looking to keep the best pheno)...but all of those show remarkably strong rebound from the affects of the toxin.So in my experience is it's not just a odd plant here and there.I believe there is more to it like "strain specific" and the genomic make up.
The Toxins
In my case I was referring to the recovery from the toxin.I have noticed some plants never fully recover from the affects while others do. The SSH was just as wrecked as all the other so was the "Blue venom" (I always catch the broad mite damage early) it was looking the same as all the other mothers (I had about six different strain "tester mothers". Looking for keepers. They all had the beginning of damage slight blistering and a few (not many) leaves starting to "Claw". I am going to keep the larry Og as I have had this cut for a long time and it recovers just takes longer to do so.Trick is to find a way to keep mothers clean without using strong chems. One thing I do know is while your grow may be interrupted and be down due to toxins with less grows over a year's time some strains work better than others.A combination is not set in stone yet for me but it involves Heat, aspirin, swirskii mites, and probably some form of fungus. At different times and schedules.so I can get away from the Judo I have been having to use.Something rather important I forgot to add. I have four SSH pheno's in the flower room all look like keepers just slight differences in height smell ect (in other words looking to keep the best pheno)...but all of those show remarkably strong rebound from the affects of the toxin.So in my experience is it's not just a odd plant here and there.I believe there is more to it like "strain specific" and the genomic make up.
greekgardner
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wavy gravy, sour dubb and chem 4.
GreenGuySF
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1st Heat Treatment - Plants look worse!
1st Heat Treatment - Plants look worse!
Hey what's up... just did my first heat treatment last night
Got temps up to 115-118 for about an hour or so with a propane construction heater
The tips of the plants now look worse - 3rd pic is the best to show this
Anyone else experienced this before? Was it too hot? Will this bounce back?? CO2 was also above 5000 the whole time
Only other thing I did was spray some foliar nitrozime earlier today to try and green them up a little, then turned out lights for an hour
As a side note, the heat also completely jacked my mother plant, 85% of leaves shriveled and died
I'm guessing it was not watered enough during the heat treat.
Thanks for your inputs!!
1st Heat Treatment - Plants look worse!
Hey what's up... just did my first heat treatment last night
Got temps up to 115-118 for about an hour or so with a propane construction heater
The tips of the plants now look worse - 3rd pic is the best to show this
Anyone else experienced this before? Was it too hot? Will this bounce back?? CO2 was also above 5000 the whole time
Only other thing I did was spray some foliar nitrozime earlier today to try and green them up a little, then turned out lights for an hour
As a side note, the heat also completely jacked my mother plant, 85% of leaves shriveled and died
I'm guessing it was not watered enough during the heat treat.
Thanks for your inputs!!
ballplayer 2
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Greenguy, be careful with a propane type heater in areas that are not well ventilated. The byproducts of combustion could be bad for you and the plants. The plants may look bad because of carbon monoxide. I don't think it was the heat that got them. either too much CO or CO2. I could not say for sure, but that would be my guess if things do not improve.
Some old dude
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Temp
Temp
Was the temp prob at the top of the canopy ..? Was there lights on real close to plant tops...? was the RH real super low..? the leaves wet from humidity when started the heat ..? maybe those gas heaters put off to much carbon monoxide..? usually the quicker you can reach that 120 the better. One hour should work.That svcks ash..never had this happen in my small mother room or flower room.But I have no experience with those gas heaters inside used them in outside for heating at night.
Temp
Was the temp prob at the top of the canopy ..? Was there lights on real close to plant tops...? was the RH real super low..? the leaves wet from humidity when started the heat ..? maybe those gas heaters put off to much carbon monoxide..? usually the quicker you can reach that 120 the better. One hour should work.That svcks ash..never had this happen in my small mother room or flower room.But I have no experience with those gas heaters inside used them in outside for heating at night.
GreenGuySF
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Crap, I stayed up stairs and left a window open, never thought the plant itself could be CO poisoned. Sheeeit.
The CO2 was definitely off the chart so most likely CO was as well.
I read up on some stuff and heard that propane burned mostly clean so I thought it was ok.
The CO2 was definitely off the chart so most likely CO was as well.
I read up on some stuff and heard that propane burned mostly clean so I thought it was ok.
GreenGuySF
Member
I had the thermometer on the same elevation as plants, it never got above 118, lights were same as ever.
So I think yea it was too high CO or CO2 for the plants to handle maybe.
RH was around 45-50% the whole time.
It did take about a half hour to get up to 115
I will keep you guys posted what happens... looking like I may have to trash this round
GreenGuySF
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Actually you know what, I had a few smaller plants closer to the floor and they are all fine.
So I think that would point more towards high heat causing this damage.
the other plants that were closer to heater were also more impacted.
Thermometer was about a foot or less under canopy height, maybe it was just that much hotter a foot up
So I think that would point more towards high heat causing this damage.
the other plants that were closer to heater were also more impacted.
Thermometer was about a foot or less under canopy height, maybe it was just that much hotter a foot up
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