Would you kill animals that were destroying your plants?

[hobb3s93]

goddam cannapillars.....greedy frost eating bastards

 

[BullnAChinaShop]

Where do all the tree-huggers stand on killing bugs that attack your canna? Why are these bugs any different than a raccoon? They are just doing what they were born to do and that is survive. A pest is a pest is a pest. The rest is just semantics.

P.S. I am one of those tree-huggers as well, I just don't see the reasoning in making the distinction. Life is life.

 

[MildeStoner]

I think if it was a matter of survival, ie I need the income from those plants to keep me and mine alive for the year, I would be willing to kill whatever animal I was required to, whereas if it was just a few trees for personal smoke, I wouldn't. Makes sense I guess, I place my own survival above pretty much anything, but would not want to take lives for the sake of my smoking habit.

Caterpillars and grasshoppers are the major exception, hate them with a farmers passion hahahaha, but still stay away from the chemical poisons..

 

[festerous]

Sorry you assumed I was blaming it on them breeding to much.
Instead I blame it on the bleeding heart liberals and their special interests groups that are constantly interfering with sound conservation practices. Money hungry politicians who are trying to suck up every cent possible with hunting and land use regulations.

So shall we really muck them up and give them birth control sprayed from the sky?
Or trap them and relocating them to underpopulated areas?

 

[MildeStoner]

Sorry you assumed I was blaming it on them breeding to much.

Fair enough And yeah, your hypothesis seems sound to me. Second two options are less feasible I guess, relocation would be ideal but then you'd end up with concentrated pockets of cramped animals, most would either return to urban areas or starve...

 

[hobb3s93]

I think if it was a matter of survival, ie I need the income from those plants to keep me and mine alive for the year, I would be willing to kill whatever animal I was required to, whereas if it was just a few trees for personal smoke, I wouldn't. Makes sense I guess, I place my own survival above pretty much anything, but would not want to take lives for the sake of my smoking habit.

Caterpillars and grasshoppers are the major exception, hate them with a farmers passion hahahaha, but still stay away from the chemical poisons..

ya i ment that in pretty sarcastic trailer park boys sorta way. im only growing for personals aswell. but if that ever changes and wasnt 20 feet from neighbors. i would have to reconsider my options.
btw does anyone know if earwigs do similar damage to cattapillars? saw a couple earwigs running around , have been having light damage to my plants last couple nights. somekind of knawing insect!!

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Where do all the tree-huggers stand on killing bugs that attack your canna? Why are these bugs any different than a raccoon? They are just doing what they were born to do and that is survive. A pest is a pest is a pest. The rest is just semantics.

P.S. I am one of those tree-huggers as well, I just don't see the reasoning in making the distinction. Life is life.

Not to be a dick but is the bold a serious question? They don't have brains and can populate much faster.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Your a fuckin loser smokey, plain and simple a fuckin loser. Gave me a bad rep and called me a douche because I kill animals? You and I, we're animals too in case you forgot to pay attention in school because you were too busy fuckin a knot hole in a tree. Just cause some of us don't do things your way don't mean we're any lesser people because we deliver our own brand of justice.

I broke a dobermans neck with my bare hands one time cause it latched onto my arm when I was walking down the road. BURN ME AT STAKE! Retaliation is the only way to solve problems.

So In my hillbilly speak FUCK YER HAT!

Pathetic internet tough guy. You like killing animals? Cool, hope it makes you feel like a real man. Bragging about it online shows everyone what kind of pitiful cowardly scum you really are.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

Trust me,.... there are plenty that will notice it. When I walk in the woods ANYTHING that seems even slightly out of sorts catches my eye.

As a hobby since I was a youngin I've collected skulls. Not sure why, but always did,.... had over a hundred. Down to just a few special ones now.

All of them picked from the wild, be it a walk in the woods,... "Hey, whats that?" or driving 50mph down a highway and catching a glimpse of white that's out of place... and backing down the breakdown lane to a find.


Point is, if it's not supposed to be there, or something that would not normally be there, it'll get noticed...... by someone eventually.

Sure, it will get noticed if you go into your site and just start whacking down weeds. If you dig a hole and keep the taller weeds, it blends right in. Also, isn't the point to have a secure area that no one is going to find? Why would someone seeing the fence be a worry if your spot was secure?

 

[greenmatter]

Sure, it will get noticed if you go into your site and just start whacking down weeds. If you dig a hole and keep the taller weeds, it blends right in. Also, isn't the point to have a secure area that no one is going to find? Why would someone seeing the fence be a worry if your spot was secure?

if someone sees the fence your spot is no longer secure right?

whatsis is telling you that your fence might not be as stealth as you think, depending on who is walking through the woods.

it is hard to hide anything if someone is actually out looking and knows "how" to look

 

[bigbluedog360]

Started this thread looking for a real world solution to a real world problem,got 2 pm's that hit the nail on the head. took the advice of a farmer from Georgia who grows corn,watermelons and soybeans for a living,key statement being for a living! I never for the life of me understand what makes some of you climb up on your hypercritical soapboxes with your bullshit blow in the wind fake ass so called morals. Let people be who they are not who or what you think they should be. If you have nothing to add but name calling and psuedo psycho bs keep it moving, go fuck up somebody elses thread. This shit has already been resolved.
If it don't apply let it fly!

 

[BullnAChinaShop]

Not to be a dick but is the bold a serious question? They don't have brains and can populate much faster.

It is absolutely a serious question. Just because YOU have decided that you can pick and choose what type of life deserves to live and what type deserves to die doesn't change anything. Again, life is life.

My stance on the subject is that no matter what type of life it is, bug or beast, it deserves to try and survive. Just like me. So if I come across say a beetle in my house, I will let it out instead of killing it. Same beetle ravaging my veggies, which I grow to eat to survive and feed my family, I will kill it. I let a groundhog live under my shed for years until the day it got into my garden and destroyed it, then I waited for it and shot it as it was messing with my survival (I did try havaheart traps but the damned thing was too smart).

I don't distinguish life just because one is cute and fuzzy. I take killing a caterpillar as seriously as killing a rabbit. I just can't see being like ohhh no you can't kill the cute fuzzy bunny that just ate your whole food crop whilst going nuclear on some caterpillars at the same time.

This is just my POV on the matter...

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Been a vegetarian for longer than some have been alive, and when all else fails I kill the motherfuckers. Get a22 caliber bb gun, and hang out with a joint.

 

[GanjaRebelSeeds]

Just what the title asks, if you put out 100 clones and came back a week later,saw coon tracks all around, and 25 plants pulled out of their holes and dead what would you do?

I didn't read through the thread,but me personally,I wouldn't kill any animals other than slugs,insects,etc.
I would just try to prevent animals from messing with my plants the best I could.

 

[MildeStoner]

I don't distinguish life just because one is cute and fuzzy. I take killing a caterpillar as seriously as killing a rabbit. I just can't see being like ohhh no you can't kill the cute fuzzy bunny that just ate your whole food crop whilst going nuclear on some caterpillars at the same time.

I share this opinion, jesus I'm starting to get confused about where I stand on this, I think how magnificent I feel the creature is does play a role, ie I've killed moles before when I've seen them digging their way towards my plants, but refrained from harming the 2 full size adult African porcupines that decimated an outdoor crop despite my attempts to fence them in. Squashed common pest butterfly's and marvelled at the larger, rarer counterparts.

Can anyone say hypocrisy?

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

if someone sees the fence your spot is no longer secure right?

whatsis is telling you that your fence might not be as stealth as you think, depending on who is walking through the woods.

it is hard to hide anything if someone is actually out looking and knows "how" to look

I'm saying there shouldn't be anyone walking near your crop period. If there is any chance someone will find it, don't bother. It's all wasted resources, imo.

 

[greenmatter]

I'm saying there shouldn't be anyone walking near your crop period. If there is any chance someone will find it, don't bother. It's all wasted resources, imo.

it's not that i don't see what you are saying boss but it is getting harder and harder to avoid people walking near your crop. people riding down a new bike trail tend to keep there eyes on the trail but hunters for example (those guys who know "how" to look) tend to see a whole lot more than most folks do. when they see something that should not be in the woods they look closer ....... it's the reason guerilla grower love hunters so much

i've been in wilderness areas where you walk 3 hours to get away from people and then find a pile of beer cans in the middle of god's country ........ fuckin bipedal mammals tend to wander off the beaten path, it's just their nature

the fence you are talking about would keep the animals out long enough for someone out hunting to find your crop in the fall because they see the fence

nothing is fool proof and solving one problem invites others ...... just like everything else.

but thats just my two cents

 

[Savage Seeds]

Pathetic internet tough guy. You like killing animals? Cool, hope it makes you feel like a real man. Bragging about it online shows everyone what kind of pitiful cowardly scum you really are.

That's exactly what I am, you caught me Still didn't answer the question dumbass, did you forget that you're a animal too? Mammals we are, here's the definition just for you smart feller

noun any vertebrate of the class Mammalia, having the body more or less covered with hair, nourishing the young with milk from the mammary glands, and, with the exception of the egg-laying monotremes, giving birth to live young.

That includes you, fairs fair nature vs nurture fuckin deal with it.
Fuck with me I'll fuck with you simple as that, over done, stick a fork in it call it a fuckin day.

And if you wanna get right down to brass tacks on this killing things deal everytime you harvest one of your dope plants or kill a male. You are literally killing a living breathing organism, it lives just like a coon or bunny does, but you still kill it. Your a murderer just like the rest of us. Your welcome for the excellent facts

 

[5th]

took the advice of a farmer from Georgia who grows corn,watermelons and soybeans for a living,key statement being for a living!

And.....

 

[noyd666]

on the lookout for breakfast