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How do you achieve 1gpw??

Ground Up

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Totally. The picture looks like this is Heath's little bro. Definitely a well-built room.

It's the numbers that I have issue with.

Plus, his profile has no public albums and here's his info in his description:



So... in the thread, he claims 128 sites. In his profile, he claims 78 sites.

Even with 78....

78 plants x 38.1g = 2971g

2971g / 600w = 4.953g/w

I simply do not believe it based on the evidence presented.
not to mention 8 grams of trimming to do.. who knows maybe he hasnt updated his info,, i dont know,, your math is spot on !!
 

Airnut

Member
Anti.. Specially for you m8..

The 128 site 75mm babyheath copy setup i shown is brandnew - atm it runs the leak test and im tuning the gadgets in the setup. Floatvalve, PH adjuster, airflow and such.
My last tube setup had only 78 seats in 110mm.

The 127 wetweight gram budshot is only in wetweight cause its the biggest ive grown, so it is possible to grow em this big. This means in theory i can hit those numbers.. but anti . friend.. The math you made should tell you it will never happend. Im in person happy if i break the 2 gpw barrier, as i wrote.
Did i mention my current record in gpw with no veg? 0.87.. Yea, not a licking different compared to many other grows, coli or not. Rather than beat the number i found my setup inadequate for the potential in the strain, so i build the new 128 seatet setup.

I just stated what i want to do. Aim nasty high to penetrate whatever number you want to beat. Thats my theory, at least..

Im not that active on this forum. I should be.. But i am also a editor on another danish forum. Since the change in the rule policy i noticed myself to be more active now in here, than ever before.
So.. Here is some old shots in the 110mm of that strain.. Some random pics from the past, the one i hold aint the one i weigh, and thats a wet number too.

Im not a supergrower. I consider my self as many do inhere, a guy with a hobby, no more.
Notice the little fella to the right of the one im holding up.
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The pic below is from my 4th try with all 78 seats filled, they are rootet cuts placed in and switched to 12/12. - no vegtime used.
The new 128 site is made with this size of plants in mind for my future grows.
The yeild in this particuly run (still pics below) hit a average wetweight about 60 grams rough. Thats more ´normal´ numbers? 8.5g dry pr plant?
8.5x78 = 663. 1.1 gpw but some of the run went moldy so i lost some of the harvest due to bad roomventilation. Only had a rough 520g of good trimmed bud with no mold in it. So my personly record is only 0.87 gpw - with no vegtime other than the rooting process.
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But as stated many places..
Hold the PH at around 5.8 and a EC about 1-1.5 This setup helps me with that. EC on rough 1.25 on this strain i found works very good for it.
I know, look like chaos, but it works.
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Only needed a proper ventilation for my buds in the old setup and reflectiveness behind the plants, and this is both for sure taken care of in the new 128 site setup..
Reason for me to weigh in the wet is that i calculate the dryingnumber. I know that strain very good and i can never get the exact total drynumber as most of the harvest is going out the door by silent reasons.. So what i have left is dried and then calculated in average. Sorry i cant be more accurate but i got freakin many bills atm..

As said. Im gonna make a thread of the new setup..
Leaktest is almost over..
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
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Anti.. Specially for you m8..


The 127 wetweight gram budshot is only in wetweight cause its the biggest ive grown, so it is possible to grow em this big. This means in theory i can hit those numbers.. but anti . friend.. The math you made should tell you it will never happend. Im in person happy if i break the 2 gpw barrier, as i wrote.

Ok. Now things are making much more sense.

Thank you for clarifying.

Good luck on your inaugural run in your new setup.
 
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DHF

Mad skills and potential Airnut....Thanks for showin what`s able to be done WITHOUT bein dialed in....

Just goes to show once again that plant numbers do in fact dictate yield.....and....

They sure have room to be bigger should yas decide to veg a week or so for that improved perfect sideways canopy.....

Waitin over here on my bucket for yas to start a thread and rock dat shit...

No tellin how much that bitch can yield with 128 budsicles dialed and hoonin.....

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....
 
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swisscheese

Big Brotha P thanks for the only post worth reading in this entire thread and I just read the thread end to end for the 3rd time. Lots of good information that just has to be sniped out of other posts as well.

Really dissapointing all the grown people arguing off topic.
 
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DHF

Big Brotha P thanks for the only post worth reading in this entire thread and I just read the thread end to end for the 3rd time. Lots of good information that just has to be sniped out of other posts as well.

Really dissapointing all the grown people arguing off topic.
If after reading the whole thread 3 times back to back and only gleaning what BBP said as the way , the truth , and the light ........

I`d say that you have a jaded opinion of how you think things work in a dialed environment....but....

To each their own , and opinions vary.....Fact remains fact....increased plant numbers dictate yields with dialed monocropped strains/hybrids...period...and...50 watts per sq ft ftw...

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....
 
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megayields

Grower of Connoisseur herb's.
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No offense... but why would you post up a shot of the wet weight instead of the dry weight? I have never bothered to weigh wet buds. Because nobody smokes or buys wet buds.

So... 127g minus 70% = 38.1g dried?


Here's the math:


38.1g x 128 plants = 4876g from a single 600w?

4876g / 600w = 8.128g/w

You're getting 8.128g/w?

You're either:

  • The second coming of Jesus
  • Bad at math
  • Full of shit

Love to see the pics!


LMAO:laughing:....ahh Anti I needed a laugh tonight ..sitting in a crappy Denny's with a waitress who is missing her front tooth.....and I'm in Georgia lol.....thanks man!
 

Stonefree69

Veg & Flower Station keeper
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plants have evolved to recieve the strongest light from overhead or the highest angle of the day (midday), so how can throwing light at them from the side be more natural???
Evolution, natural selection..... Plants get it both ways throughout the day, both horizontally and vertically. Most of the day it's actually vertically.

If you want to know where photons really "start from their source and arrive at their destination" just look at the the double-slit experiment. This has most EVERYONE baffled. The conclusion seems to be light has both particle and wave characteristics. So now at least the north side likes it anyways... ;)



Edit: may I correct myself and say 50-50 vertical/horizontal throughout day? My "triginometry" side says so, but on an xyz axis in fall it should favor vertical.
 

Green_science

Active member
You start with a canopy like this

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you keep the plant happy and stress free, so you're canopy starts to look like this

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And then this

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And then this
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Green_science

Active member
Now this

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This

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And This

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Turns into something like this

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And finally you have 1gpw that looks like this

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and its that easy, good luck
 

Jamorg13

Member
^^ And then you take all those radiators, rip everything off them, use just the socket and a bulb hung vertically, surround said vertical bulb with plants, and then you actually achieve 1 gpw, and you don't have to lie about it because you actually achieved it!
 

Green_science

Active member
^^ And then you take all those radiators, rip everything off them, use just the socket and a bulb hung vertically, surround said vertical bulb with plants, and then you actually achieve 1 gpw, and you don't have to lie about it because you actually achieved it!
^^This

But... or you could just do it how I do it, have 8 plants per 600w, veg, a short finishing High yielding stocky indica, for 5-6 weeks, and grow 75 grams, AKA just over 2.5 OZ a plant, if you have a hard time believing there is 2.5 OZ a plant in that picture, then I guess you just have never seen a 2.5 oz plant?

Sorry if you cant, hit a gpw, truly I am, but that doesn't mean it isn't FAIRLY easy for others, myself included, to accomplish.

Plant numbers, plus correct training/pruning, plus 600w lamps with the right amount of space, A GOOD NUTRIENT with a dialed in feeding regime used in a form of PURE hydro, the correct genetics, along side a dialed in environment (genetic specific), and a completely happy life for the plant (from clone to harvest) = a gpw there is no argument about it, it gets accomplished by many people every day, if you are not not hitting it, you simply are not fulfilling ALL of these requirements, and that is a FACT, PS notice I said 600w lamps, I do not hit a gpw with 1k's, more like .85, perhaps I could if I used a lot more space per lamp, either way 600w vs 1kw, make a big difference when it comes to 1gpw for me, YMMV, good luck
 
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DHF

Thanks for the pics GS even though it is a flat grow in the vertical forums......but.....

Let`s not get into a pissin contest , cuz 600 grams per 600 watts is waaaay more than doable on horizontal setups with dialed strains , proper watts per sq ft , and above all environment....but....bare bulbs/vert runs allow plants to be on all 4 walls/surrounded by lumens with more increased numbers and potential increased bottom line returns.........

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....
 
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Green_science

Active member
Thanks for the pics GS even though it is a flat grow in the vertical forums......but.....

Let`s not get into a pissin contest , cuz 600 grams per 600 watts is waaaay more than doable on horizontal setups with dialed strains , proper watts per sq ft , and above all environment....but....bare bulbs/vert runs allow plants to be on all 4 walls/surrounded by lumens with more increased numbers and potential increased bottom line returns.........

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....

Sorry all my apologies, I just felt like I had to pitch in, there is some people around here that are doubting harvesting 1gpw in verticle setups, I just come to reassure them, that 1gpw is OLD news, and 2gpw is the new benchmark :flowers2:, again my apologies, and sorry if I offended anyone that can't hit a gpw, was not my intention, BYE.
 

tebos

Member
To each their own , and opinions vary.....Fact remains fact....increased plant numbers dictate yields with dialed monocropped strains/hybrids...period...and...50 watts per sq ft ftw...
But Watts/sqft says actually nothing. For normal bulbs Lumens/sqft ist everything :biggrin:
 
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