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What happens when real commercial breeders take over?
- Thread starter DevilWeedSeeds
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I wish somebody would take over. This growing shit is hard work.
i think its true that there are more people who think they are eating organic
its a testament to the power of marketers whose mantra is 'sell them what they want'
ever since the so-called 'organic boom,' big co have been lobbying for looser restrictions on organic claims ~so much that today, the term 'organic' means little at the store {w/ notable exceptions at the local level}
similarly, there is a distinction between genetic engineering and the stigma of 'GMO" compared to the selective breeding process which produced the cultivars we know and are familiar w/ today
personally, i am not interested in roundup being used for anything and i especially dont want to eat food crops engineered to be used in conjunction w/ those pesticide and/or herbicides because it essentially means they can be used w/ impunity and w/o recourse at the farm level {not so much that they can just pour it on but it will be used repeatedly season after season}
so; my concern w/ 'genetically modified' food of today is not so much the genetic modifying but the associated purpose
its a testament to the power of marketers whose mantra is 'sell them what they want'
ever since the so-called 'organic boom,' big co have been lobbying for looser restrictions on organic claims ~so much that today, the term 'organic' means little at the store {w/ notable exceptions at the local level}
similarly, there is a distinction between genetic engineering and the stigma of 'GMO" compared to the selective breeding process which produced the cultivars we know and are familiar w/ today
personally, i am not interested in roundup being used for anything and i especially dont want to eat food crops engineered to be used in conjunction w/ those pesticide and/or herbicides because it essentially means they can be used w/ impunity and w/o recourse at the farm level {not so much that they can just pour it on but it will be used repeatedly season after season}
so; my concern w/ 'genetically modified' food of today is not so much the genetic modifying but the associated purpose
The problem is the process they use is not 'natural' and usually involves genetic code from plants that are not the modified plant.
Anyone who's familiar with the blood type diet will be fully aware of how f'ed up it can be to have genetic code from one plant in another. All plants and animals are not the same to all people. Period.
Genetic modification through selective breeding and GMO foods are not even in the same ball park. Sorry.
Stay Safe!
TLoft13
Member
Had the exact same conversation you're having right now over a decade ago, Hydro. Very knowledgeable female friend of mine predicted no problems with GM organisms, because she knew that the human body already takes up foreign DNA, mainly in the process of digestion.
She thought GMOs similarly wouldn't have any ill effects.
She admits now she was wrong, GMos are a health disaster. Google it, and never, ever eat the shit.
She thought GMOs similarly wouldn't have any ill effects.
She admits now she was wrong, GMos are a health disaster. Google it, and never, ever eat the shit.
Apodo
Member
A sort of standardization is observable in cannabis strain in the "illegal" paradigm. Most of the banks are pushing for faster, more productive and resistant strains. Skunk #1 is a perfect example of this, it was crossed with almost everything under the sun, from Luang Probang to Amambay. This goes directly against genetic diversity in the cannabis spectrum.
Now, if we observe the modern agricultural system, the homogenization is quite scary. A big agricultural conglomerate will plant a standard black potato in a acre of land. It yields more, mature early an is quite resistant to common pest and diseases. Most of the pre-spanic potatoes strain were cast into oblivion as this industry were aiming to export and the food become a commodity instead of a right.
If in yields more, how cares?. As I say before, they are ruled by parameters in our current economic and social system. They don't care for cultural reasons of consuming certain strains of potatoes, or if this "pastuza" potatoes has a distinct taste. Yield (and profit) is the only criteria that is used.
Cannabis will ultimately be on the same road.
Maybe (if global legalization is accomplished) the cannabis will be treated as another agricultural commodity, like coffee per example. It will be produced in certain regions, abusing of the local populations with slavery working conditions, managed by one or two corporations, buying land and dictating politics in the producing country's. Some strains, like a fine Cambodian cultivar, will be more expensive that a massive produced skunk or OG.
Google this: United Fruit Company. Replace tropical fruit with cannabis and you will get my message.
Now, if we observe the modern agricultural system, the homogenization is quite scary. A big agricultural conglomerate will plant a standard black potato in a acre of land. It yields more, mature early an is quite resistant to common pest and diseases. Most of the pre-spanic potatoes strain were cast into oblivion as this industry were aiming to export and the food become a commodity instead of a right.
If in yields more, how cares?. As I say before, they are ruled by parameters in our current economic and social system. They don't care for cultural reasons of consuming certain strains of potatoes, or if this "pastuza" potatoes has a distinct taste. Yield (and profit) is the only criteria that is used.
Cannabis will ultimately be on the same road.
Maybe (if global legalization is accomplished) the cannabis will be treated as another agricultural commodity, like coffee per example. It will be produced in certain regions, abusing of the local populations with slavery working conditions, managed by one or two corporations, buying land and dictating politics in the producing country's. Some strains, like a fine Cambodian cultivar, will be more expensive that a massive produced skunk or OG.
Google this: United Fruit Company. Replace tropical fruit with cannabis and you will get my message.
if it mirrors fruits and veggies then then there will be both thriving big corporations, and smaller niche companies, and tons of home growers growing for themselves and for the farmers market. I think when you legalize the plant, it will actually create more awareness of how special it is, and be a good thing for everyone.
I hope your right clovethee, hopefully when legal millions of small growers will come out of the woodwork and start sharing their beans with other growers.
i agree with this tbh. ii think thats the most likely outcome. unless they only licence it out to big companies or something
well you guys can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first. I really have no idea where we're heading or whether or not I'll be a part of it, but it is damn sure changing I will guarantee you that, so tic toc and brace yourselves. And anybody that argues for the continuing of these laws against cannabis while his bros rot in jail can kiss my motherfuckingass too.
Keep eating that GMO, and I will try my hardest not to eat it and we will see who fares better.
i doubt it will kill you quicker
It's more a moral issue for me.
But there has been studies that show an increase of tumors in rats.
I just see an increase of diabetes, heart disease and cancer in our society. Do some reading on food additives, food dyes and GMO and maybe you will come back with a different perspective.
From my personal experience I have never felt better mentally and physically then when I stopped eating all artificial colorings , additives and GMO.
But there has been studies that show an increase of tumors in rats.
I just see an increase of diabetes, heart disease and cancer in our society. Do some reading on food additives, food dyes and GMO and maybe you will come back with a different perspective.
From my personal experience I have never felt better mentally and physically then when I stopped eating all artificial colorings , additives and GMO.
this exactly
my fear is something along the lines of the debacle w/ med growers in canada ~if i even understand that correctly*
that and the 'homogenized/standardized' thing~ "blended or granulated product" ~yuck!
*didnt they license growers; give 'em a year or 2 to get all invested and barely going then; pull the rug out and centralize it?
Don't stop at diabetes, cancer and heart disease... the hospitals are chock full of folks with digestive and other issues, directly related to the foods they're eating.
Took over a year to quit eating all those chems but I feel the same way you do... never felt better in my life and can't talk myself into going back to that crap.
Stay Safe!
I know what happens. We have some better seeds to grow.
It's really nothing to worry about for the average grower. Our current "seed breeders" are the only ones with a legitimate complaint. Just worried they won't be able to stand up to professionals. Too bad, you can always just give away your seeds if you're doing it for the love.
It's really nothing to worry about for the average grower. Our current "seed breeders" are the only ones with a legitimate complaint. Just worried they won't be able to stand up to professionals. Too bad, you can always just give away your seeds if you're doing it for the love.
