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Unsure what this deficiency (?) is? Happened very fast...

MIway

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Holdin... I strongly side with mmj, ur pics are of a mite. Just to add to ur frustrations...lol


Il wager they are just hungry based on what uv typed, and likely the upper fans r showing (despite the lower ones remaining green) is simply because they are closer to the light.

Try another flush and if they get worse (like in late flush), thentry foods and it will stall the development... That just means hungry, and fits ur description. If they are overnuted, thr extra flush wont hirt and hopefully the development stalls. My bt is that it will progress with the extra flush.


But those pucs arent of aphids... For sure. They are bigger and have a wider abdomen...and the damage is rather extreme and noticeable. U dont have em man. Get some sleep ;-)
 

GuyManDude

Active member
looks like mites to me. i googles root aphids and then googled mites, which I fought for a year, and that pic you posted is a mite. the clear, white one is a young one

get some Avid or some Forbid and nuke em
 

medicalmj

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looks like mites to me. i googles root aphids and then googled mites, which I fought for a year, and that pic you posted is a mite. the clear, white one is a young one

get some Avid or some Forbid and nuke em

Terrestrial mites on your plant are most likely eating your plants, but soil mites or mites not on the plant are a whole-nother animal.

soil mites can be normal, expected and beneficial if you're in organic/holistic media environment. But in sterile media like RW or soilless like coco and there are large numbers then you may have an underlying issue or an imbalance. Mites seem to appear out of nowhere when there is an abundance of mold, fungus, bacteria, decaying matter. Once the imbalance is corrected they just reduce or dissappear.
 

Holdin'

Moon-grass farmer
Veteran
Holdin... I strongly side with mmj, ur pics are of a mite. Just to add to ur frustrations...lol


Il wager they are just hungry based on what uv typed, and likely the upper fans r showing (despite the lower ones remaining green) is simply because they are closer to the light.

Try another flush and if they get worse (like in late flush), thentry foods and it will stall the development... That just means hungry, and fits ur description. If they are overnuted, thr extra flush wont hirt and hopefully the development stalls. My bt is that it will progress with the extra flush.


But those pucs arent of aphids... For sure. They are bigger and have a wider abdomen...and the damage is rather extreme and noticeable. U dont have em man. Get some sleep ;-)

Haha thank you.

That RockyMountain dude had me stressing... I felt like I'd just been diagnosed with HIV or something.

I was about 99.9% sure that I didn't have RA when I looked at the "Urban Grower" youtube vid showing the "white speck RA" under a scope... NO similarity whatsoever.

The larger, orangeish mite that resembles H. Miles has been roaming around my medium for a while; mothers, veg, flower, etc. I'd known that was a mite from the beginning. Figured it was a predator since I haven't seen a FG flyer or larvae in ages like I mentioned before.

Then as soon as I post this thread, the other little critter that showed itself just this recent flowering cycle, the little white speck mite, all of the sudden went from a "meh" to "FUCK". The main thing that had me worried is I couldn't tell if the two front legs were antennae or not. But after observing these little guys for a while, the little tiny white speck mite doesn't have the traits of an aphid... not to mention 8 legs instead of 6.




......

Anyways about the health of the plants:

First thing I did was kept the normal schedule and gave them another feeding, and the problem did really spread. The other strains in the garden are still not showing the same signs. Bud production seems to be normal, and the ladies are swelling up nicely.

So the next watering, of plain water, I checked ppms and pH of my runoff, 420ppm (haha) and runoff came out at 6.5-6.6. Water going in was 6.1.

Saturday will be the start of week 7, and basically this entire garden is full of 55-60 day plants, the strains/phenos I'm growing for the first time seem to fairly on par with that as well. So, the ladies will get one more feeding on the next watering here tomorrow or the next day, then will be giving straight fresh water until chop.

I'm still confused as to this problem... and I wonder if I created some sort of imbalance in this finicky strain, or if I DO have some sort of bad fungus or bacteria that is making these finicky plants even more sensitive.

Actinovate has seemed to be the miracle cure for damping off, I was thinking about including this in my next feeding, if it may be beneficial. Anybody have an opinion on giving them a treatment going somewhat late into flower? I figure it can't hurt...?


Thank all of you for your input, especially medicalmj. You've all been more than helpful.
 

medicalmj

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I used actinovate when I dealt with this issue. Once the root funk cleared up the mites just disappeared too. My issues started in dwc and only when I ditched the dwc for coco did the mites and presumably the bad bacteria/fungus. In less than 2 weeks I'll be inspecting root ball to confirm. Last run still had mites as I pulled from dwc and pot into coco at start of flwr, now 100% coco.
 

Holdin'

Moon-grass farmer
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I picked up some Actinovate today... Had to buy (2) 2oz packages at $20 each. Kind of silly. Nobody carries the big bag around here. Oh well.... And I'm sure it's a bit late in this flowering cycle to make a BIG difference, but, the ladies are overall healthy, so I think it'll be cheap insurance.

Interesting about your experience though. In fact I remember you giving your input when I originally found soil mites in my mothers and was having some funky issues, and posted about it. And on the subject, I wish we could easily determine which soil mites are after the bacteria/fungus, are predators, or root munchers.

Do you have any pics of the mites that were in your medium? How many different species have you seen?
 

medicalmj

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I picked up some Actinovate today... Had to buy (2) 2oz packages at $20 each. Kind of silly. Nobody carries the big bag around here. Oh well.... And I'm sure it's a bit late in this flowering cycle to make a BIG difference, but, the ladies are overall healthy, so I think it'll be cheap insurance.

Interesting about your experience though. In fact I remember you giving your input when I originally found soil mites in my mothers and was having some funky issues, and posted about it. And on the subject, I wish we could easily determine which soil mites are after the bacteria/fungus, are predators, or root munchers.

Do you have any pics of the mites that were in your medium? How many different species have you seen?

I do have pics in a odd format, I'll see if I can convert to jpeg. I found 2 very different species. One was likely a Histiostoma the other an Oribatid (1200 species of oribatid in N. America). I don't know of any root munchers other than the bulb mite. Let me know if you confirm otherwise.
 

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