Bruised Nuts

[GMT]

Thanks Teresa
Hey Demon, thanks for dropping that in, When are you planning on flipping to flower mode?
Hi Verdant, yep you got it. A couple of outcrosses and numerous incrosses later, and here we are.
Lol Harry, could do a chem dawg and call em dogs bollocks

ok so i realised I haven't shown the first from this batch of seeds going into flower for a while. Here's a shot from a couple of weeks ago and then 2 shots of her from today:

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Thanks Teresa
Hey Demon, thanks for dropping that in, When are you planning on flipping to flower mode?
Hi Verdant, yep you got it. A couple of outcrosses and numerous incrosses later, and here we are.
Lol Harry, could do a chem dawg and call em dogs bollocks

ok so i realised I haven't shown the first from this batch of seeds going into flower for a while. Here's a shot from a couple of weeks ago and then 2 shots of her from today:
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Looking good mate.

 

[Mr.Fastcast]

I like it too.

 

[DemonPigeon]

Thought I might flip next day or two, I've not got as long as expected left before having to pack up my grow stuff for a little while :-S but I should have time to flower them out to full
and I'd like to make some seeds using Bruised Nut Pollen

 

[944s2]

looking very nice indeed gmt,have some great colouring there mate,,happy and healthy young ladies,,great work gmt,,peace and regards s2

 

[GMT]

Cheers Harry
Thanks Mr Fastcast
lol Demon, so you're actually hoping for a male then?
Thanks 944, starting from last week, she has to find all her nitrogen in the existing leaves. Makes the final trim job much easier and the bud photos later much clearer. Just the one lady there in those shots, got another 2 just sexed but think I'll give one of them a little cfl light at night to let it get a little bigger before throwing it into full flower. I'll post those 2 next update along with the one male I kept for some pollen to play with. And maybe some clone shots. Gonna be a busy one next update, think I'll have a sit down for a week to gather my energy

 

[DemonPigeon]

I have a female and a male I'm pretty pleased
I have some other females which I think would make a nice cross for the male
The female is going in the vape ;-)

 

[GMT]

DP, Oh cool, you're all set then, worked out perfectly.

Well a male is just starting to release pollen, so took some quick snaps of odd branches and pollen sacks for the thread.

 

[DemonPigeon]

Yep I'd have been just as happy with more females because it seems like it's going to be really nice bud, but I needed a male for my other females and the Bruised nuts is a nice looking plant with interesting genes so definately a keeper.

Assuming I've identified the preflowers right It looks different on a tri plant

 

[GMT]

lol little white hairs are little white hairs, whether they're on a bi, tri or quad surely.
Are you using the pollen as it drops or are you collecting and storing to compare the male you have with later males?

 

[DemonPigeon]

Yeah but my plants aren't dispaying them at all the brachts when I first thought saw a pistil I picked the plant up to have a look with my loupe and spent 10 minutes turning it side to side looking for the pistil before realising it had a third side

I'm not sure about pollen storage, I concidered it but I've never found collecting it that easy a task Can you just put a plastic bag over the limb? I remember seeing somewhere that plastic traps to much moisture, but I'm not sure that breathable bags like in majiuana botany made by me would be very good

do you have to refrdgerate it? or freeze it? How long does it last?
and can you get away without refridgetation? like with seeds.

 

[GMT]

when I first thought saw a pistil I picked the plant up to have a look with my loupe and spent 10 minutes turning it side to side looking for the pistil before realising it had a third side

Oh fuck, thanks so much for that, its always good to wake up with a laugh, and that cracked me up.


What I've done is tie the male over slightly. You dont have to go as far as when lsting but just enough to get the majority of pollen sites from being above the pot. Stick some paper under the branches on the floor, (I like parchment paper but a magazine or anything will do) and let the pollen fall. Give the pot a tap or shake and the pollen just collects. Just dont expose it to a draft or it blows away. It takes longer than you expect but it will happen. Use what you want, poor the rest into something like a film canister. Some mix it with flour some put rice in there, personally, because it was all i had, I ground up some ricicles and mixed that in to absorb any moisture. Then pop it in the freezer. No idea how long it lasts, but I do know I haven't had much luck leaving it at room temp. But then i don't find keeping seeds at room temp allows them to last either. I've lost so many good genetics keeping them in the coolest room (bathroom cupboard) for a couple of years. If I want them to last, now I freeze them. Others claim to have kept seeds in a draw, but that doesn't gel with my experience at all.

 

[DemonPigeon]

Lol full Pollen guide you're a real font of all knowledge

Maybe I should keep mine colder then :-S I suppose that depends on how long though? A couple of years at room temp might be ok though?

Curse your voice of authority

I'm glad I amuse you in my novice mistakes The other option would it being annoying ;-)

I'm so baked guys, so baked...

 

[Sativa Dragon]

I don't think Polyploidy is the cause here, I'm sure GMT can refute this far better than me.

It's a mutant from a single branch which was cloned and bred out to create the line he has today

And I think this is essentially it's heritage:
((Blueberry*Orangebud)*Black Domina)*Nutcruncher

In terms of breeding Tri plants I don't think anyone knows any more than GMT.
Here's a bruised nuts I got from GMT, the trait is actually found in a reasonably high number of the seeds thanks to all his work in selection and inbreeding of Tri plants

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I got a Trifol out of some seeds straight from the himalayas, I am leaning towards it not being a mutation, maybe a recesive gene?

Peace

 

[GMT]

DP, I'm only crouching on the shoulders of giants.

SD, no, its far more complex than that. You'll see from when you start breeding it, the maths dont work out. More like co-dominant on several loci.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

DP, I'm only crouching on the shoulders of giants.

SD, no, its far more complex than that. You'll see from when you start breeding it, the maths dont work out. More like co-dominant on several loci.

Indeed, Hmm, I wouldn't know where to start, I guess I should read some, in the next few weeks, I am curious how tissue culture would effect this particular trait.

Peace

 

[GMT]

I imagine it would dissappear, but be present in any offspring, just like cloning a branch.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

I imagine it would dissappear, but be present in any offspring, just like cloning a branch.

The Tri that I have, when it stretches it still has the branches at 60 degree angles just not directly across from eachother, so technically the effect doesn't go away it is slightly masked when looking at it from the side.

Your like this as well?

 

[DemonPigeon]

Hey there's a weird thing about bruised nuts. I often let my plants get a little pot bound by the end of vegging, floor space at a premium after all :-S

Well anyway usually the top cm(s) of cocoa have no spreading roots in them even when effectively forming a layer all round the edges and base of the pot. with the bruised nuts there's a lot of exposed root at the surface of pot, much like the branching of the plant above ground it seems to be far more like a hemisphere of growth than the elongated shape in most strains.

It also weirdly means you can see if there's any fungus gnat larvae (or I suppose any root dwelling pest) before they're flying around laying more eggs. I just thought I'd put it out there because no one has mentioned it yet.

 

[Sativa Dragon]

I will check mine and let you know later.

Peace