Ways to increase yields in an organic soil setup?

[Microbeman]

Okay now I see what you mean. I've never run my cursor arrow over the text before. At least it is not advertising.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

No shit.. never noticed that before today.

 

[W89]

yeah i buy the shamrock stuff, didnt know it scotts - its just un-ameneded peat hopefully even they cant F that up.. seems good quality its just finding places that do it. most of them just do potting compost now which may be 90% peat but then its hard to know what they have or havent put in there

VG

VG, yes although it's from scotts it did get a good review online I will have to order bag online and see what it's all about! cheers!

 

[hbj1891]

imo i would utilize the space above your canopy. seems with the scrog, you have left alot of room between 36 and 12 inches of the light that could def be utilized better. and yeah, bigger pots, more tying down branches, less topping and supercropping...

 

[vonforne]

I am running 3 gallon smart pots, and I top 2-3 times. Sometimes more on stretchy strains like head band. I veg for 3 weeksish. Sometimes 4 weeks.

I really don't want to mono crop if I don't have to. I would prefer to do multi strain, but I know this can harm my yields a bit.

container size IMO. I would try and increase the root mass with container size and super cropping.

 

[ghostmade]

the should have all the things like rtlo aact defind when u put the cursor over it

 

[hbj1891]

this may help...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=245776

 

[al-k-mist]

any thoughts on co2 from anyone? I heard it can almost double the yield.
I also heard somewhere its a byproduct of something nasty???
here it is...I think, if ya can make a sealed room, this may be a key...i may try.
...
"In almost all cases, carbon dioxide which is captured and purified for commercial applications would be vented to the atmosphere at the production point if it was not recoved for transport and beneficial use at other locations.

The most common operations from which commercially-produced carbon dioxide is recovered are industrial plants which produce hydrogen or ammonia from natural gas, coal, or other hydrocarbon feedstock, and large-volume fermentation operations in which plant products are made into ethanol for human consumption, automotive fuel or industrial use. Breweries producing beer from various grain products are a traditional source. Corn-to-ethanol plants have been the most rapidly growing source of feed gas for CO2 recovery. "

 

[Wendull C.]

This is only my humble opinion.
1) Use a double trellis. One for them to stretch through in the first three weeks of flower, and another level around day 28 of your flower cycle as they beef up.
2) Never make a plant wait.
3) Use a blue spectrum for the first two weeks of flower on an 8 to 9 week strain to shorten your internodes as well as keeping your differential in day night temps to 5 degrees.

Since I have done this my yields have gone up on a regular basis, And healthy plants leave you free to dial in or repair other things in the garden.
Just my .2 cents.

 

[Neo 420]

My response to a similar question..


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5634064&postcount=68

Increase quality OM inputs. (Get the best damn EWC and compost you can source..)
Larger volume of media (container size)
Diversify OM inputs
Longer nutrient cycling (compost'n)
adequate arthropoda (OM decomposers, transporting organisms, digesting fungi, aeration, etc...)
Addition of bio-char
Learn and explore about clays in relation to you soil needs.....
Minerals (with due time for breakdown)
Canopy Management (very important in yield relation)
Explore FPE's, plants soaks and the like (kelp/alfalfa bubbles is the bizness!!)
Diverse ACT teas and sprout tea's
Create the most comfortable environment you can for your microbes. (and external environment for your plants)

Now dial all that in with your specific strain. And as your soil ages (no till or till) it just better....

That's what I am doing to increase yields (as well as quality)......

 

[Nez]

maybe next run try 5 gallon smarties instead of 3's and veg for another week to two. should see a nice improvement

 

[al-k-mist]

has someone said beds, instead of pots?

 

[Wendull C.]

I just did 3 gal.(52) watered once a day at lights on and a 5 gal.(44)watered every other day at lights on. These were both smart pots.
The 5 gallon killed the 3 gallons but I don't have a final percentage yet.
I can tell you just from experience with my strains.

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Some great ideas here. Just so everyone knows I am trying all kinds of things to see what end result I like best. At the moment I have the room pictured in this thread with 3 gallon smart pots. I have another room that I have converted to vert with a soil bed, and then I am going to switch my other room over to a soil bed, and do horizontal. I am also starting to recycle all of my soil. As of late I have been testing to many products to recycle any soil, but now I am at a place where I will recycle. I am thinking this room might also get switched to a no-til soil bed set up. I would think this would be better than 5 gallon pots. The pots will always restrict the root mass to much, where as a soil bed will really give the ladies some room to stretch out their legs.

 

[hbj1891]

any thoughts on co2 from anyone? I heard it can almost double the yield.
I also heard somewhere its a byproduct of something nasty???
here it is...I think, if ya can make a sealed room, this may be a key...i may try.
...
"In almost all cases, carbon dioxide which is captured and purified for commercial applications would be vented to the atmosphere at the production point if it was not recoved for transport and beneficial use at other locations.

The most common operations from which commercially-produced carbon dioxide is recovered are industrial plants which produce hydrogen or ammonia from natural gas, coal, or other hydrocarbon feedstock, and large-volume fermentation operations in which plant products are made into ethanol for human consumption, automotive fuel or industrial use. Breweries producing beer from various grain products are a traditional source. Corn-to-ethanol plants have been the most rapidly growing source of feed gas for CO2 recovery. "

interesting. i just cashed out my first tank. my levels pre tank were between 700 and 800, then with tank, it stayed around 1100-1300 on/off every 15 minutes. gonna get a carbon monoxide tester, but i have a 90%= efficient furnace and my hot water heater is vented properly....ill post after this run and let ya folks know whether it made a difference.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Ozark- Be careful not to change too many things at the same time or it will be difficult to tell which factor(s) are responsible for any improvements. Write shit down if ya have to.

 

[ghostmade]

write it down if even if you dont (KEEP IT SAFE THOUGH)

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Ozark- Be careful not to change too many things at the same time or it will be difficult to tell which factor(s) are responsible for any improvements. Write shit down if ya have to.

Solid advise. Honestly though I believe I am going to end up with no-til soil beds in all of my rooms regardless of if I go vertical or horizontal. My mind is pretty well made up on that.

 

[GEMiNi GENETiCS]

Not sure how this logic will pan out in cannabis land but it worked quite well for our veggies last year .... We foliar sprayed our veggies(tomato,peppers) w a mixture of kelp meal, Ewc and epsom salt .... Originally got the idea from an organic farmer who did a test of no spray vs Epsom salt foliar .... He gained more yeild from the Epsom foliar vs non-Epsom .... So I just tweaked it w Ewc and kelp and we had phenomenal results

I'm gonna test it out on my outdoor girls and see how they do with Epsom foliar sprays this season .... I'll be spraying up till first week of September to help avoid excess moisture in the buds .... avoid the dreaded grey mold ......if it works in a similar fashion ... Should dense up the buds and help stack the weight ........ We shall see

Respect .... Your garden looks superb!!! No till in the way to go .... How out greenhouse and veggie beds were set up at the old place .... New house new beds wish we could have taken them w us lol

 

[OrganicOzarks]

Not sure how this logic will pan out in cannabis land but it worked quite well for our veggies last year .... We foliar sprayed our veggies(tomato,peppers) w a mixture of kelp meal, Ewc and epsom salt .... Originally got the idea from an organic farmer who did a test of no spray vs Epsom salt foliar .... He gained more yeild from the Epsom foliar vs non-Epsom .... So I just tweaked it w Ewc and kelp and we had phenomenal results

I'm gonna test it out on my outdoor girls and see how they do with Epsom foliar sprays this season .... I'll be spraying up till first week of September to help avoid excess moisture in the buds .... avoid the dreaded grey mold ......if it works in a similar fashion ... Should dense up the buds and help stack the weight ........ We shall see

Respect .... Your garden looks superb!!! No till in the way to go .... How out greenhouse and veggie beds were set up at the old place .... New house new beds wish we could have taken them w us lol

I foliar feed on Friday with a plant based tea, and on Monday with Compost Tea. I also water on the same days. I don't water or foliar any other days. Once I started mulching cutting back to two days was plenty. Who the fuck wants to work?