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big plant ppk

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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Nice build. My first ppk crop isn't quite done flowering and the design has already improved and evolved. Good idea on the through fittings and hose. Looks like I will be updating already. Thanks for sharing you're ideas with the community.

hi, otis33, thank you! so you're holding out on me too! surely you have a thread going on somewhere?
 

high life 45

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Well done!

Youve got me interested in going perpetual now.... I like consistent snacks vs feast and famine.

Im interested to see how the nute solution rides through the duration if you still plan on using co2.
 

hotboxes

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Man glad I made it early this time, I'm sure its going to be another great inspirational, and educational show. Looks to be the making of some real monsters for sure. 36" , any restrictions on width?

I was wondering are you using the turface as a wick also? I am just trying to figure out how good this would do with Coco with out having alternate ways for the PWT to exit, the turface looks to be way more porise(sp?), than coco would be so I could see how your top chambers could drain threw the tail pieces.

I noticed that it takes my top chamber roughly 45 seconds to flood thus exchanging as much gas as possible thats with the holes in the side. I am sure I could probably get a better exchange without the holes in the side. My thought Is using the shorter wider containers with the 3 wicks but since I will be using Coco as a medium I will still put drain holes in the bottom to drain the coco into the bottom chamber. my current pot has slits cut into the bottom from the manufacturer witch kinda helps the coco drain but also lets the container fill before all the liquid is drained.

Now that I think about it I wonder if it would be better to put holes at the top of the container just under the surface of the medium to drawl air in from the sides as it is draining not too many just a couple in select spots to utilize the air coming in especially if you are covering the tops to retain moisture IDK something to tinker with I guess I will try it out and post how it works out for me.

Keep up the great work my friend.
 

FlowerFarmer

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Got all the identical parts and about to start building.

I grabbed the longer of the two available tailpieces and they need cut down. Should I shorten them just enough to hang just above the bottom of the lower container... giving me wicking capabilities for as long as possible should the pump fail.



I posted in your other thread, but hadnt got a reply.

What was the general consensus of ALL SPORT turface? John Deer doesnt have MVP, but said their ALL SPORT was close to it. I maybe though I had a read a post here disliking the allsport for some reason, but cant seem the remember the details.
 

high life 45

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Love looking at this pic
It makes me think
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
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Well done!

Youve got me interested in going perpetual now.... I like consistent snacks vs feast and famine.

Im interested to see how the nute solution rides through the duration if you still plan on using co2.

i've got the two rooms interconnected with two 8" insulated flex ducts and two duct fans. one going each way so there is continuous circulation.

so i will have co2 throughout. the duct fans were not as capable as i had hoped so i had to remove the first light set up and put in a ducted cool tube.

not ideal but it got the temps down.

the veg room has it's own volume tank so i can run a different solution strength there.
 

high life 45

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i've got the two rooms interconnected with two 8" insulated flex ducts and two duct fans. one going each way so there is continuous circulation.

so i will have co2 throughout. the duct fans were not as capable as i had hoped so i had to remove the first light set up and put in a ducted cool tube.

not ideal but it got the temps down.

the veg room has it's own volume tank so i can run a different solution strength there.


I was thinking more of when a couple plants are in stretch and a few are finishing up.

IME I have fed 2-3x as much this run as I have before and the plants are responding well, although I did get some claw. These girls were hungry!

Perhaps you wont need to feed as much. Since the plants will be at different stages of maturity their metabolism will be different as well.

My previous room was a perpetual set up and when it was humming along, it was perfect. I wouldn't mind switching one side of my flip flop to a perpetual just too keep all my patients happy.

Speaking of being happy and patience... can you commit to weekly pics? :tumbleweed:Just put your right thumb on the fingerprint scanner below:tiphat:
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
Man glad I made it early this time, I'm sure its going to be another great inspirational, and educational show. Looks to be the making of some real monsters for sure. 36" , any restrictions on width?

I was wondering are you using the turface as a wick also? I am just trying to figure out how good this would do with Coco with out having alternate ways for the PWT to exit, the turface looks to be way more porise(sp?), than coco would be so I could see how your top chambers could drain threw the tail pieces.

I noticed that it takes my top chamber roughly 45 seconds to flood thus exchanging as much gas as possible thats with the holes in the side. I am sure I could probably get a better exchange without the holes in the side. My thought Is using the shorter wider containers with the 3 wicks but since I will be using Coco as a medium I will still put drain holes in the bottom to drain the coco into the bottom chamber. my current pot has slits cut into the bottom from the manufacturer witch kinda helps the coco drain but also lets the container fill before all the liquid is drained.

Now that I think about it I wonder if it would be better to put holes at the top of the container just under the surface of the medium to drawl air in from the sides as it is draining not too many just a couple in select spots to utilize the air coming in especially if you are covering the tops to retain moisture IDK something to tinker with I guess I will try it out and post how it works out for me.

Keep up the great work my friend.

since i will only have ten plants in the flower room i can grow them without touching each other so i can let them go wide as much as i need to.

i'm using straight turface, screened to remove particle under 1/8" and washed. this is in the wick also. it moves water very fast but still has enough capillary potential to feed the plant. with these containers and this mix i'm using a 3" air gap to insure that the medium never dries completely.

i'm flooding the veg containers every 30 minutes right now. the system goes back to equilibrium in about 3 minutes so that's about 54 minutes per hour that the plants roots are sitting in what pretty much should be an ideal growing environment.

i don't think any further holes are needed to achieve this. i'm drilling four holes per plant module, one 7/8" hole in the bottom and three 1.5" holes in the top. it doesn't get any more simple.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
Got all the identical parts and about to start building.

I grabbed the longer of the two available tailpieces and they need cut down. Should I shorten them just enough to hang just above the bottom of the lower container... giving me wicking capabilities for as long as possible should the pump fail.



I posted in your other thread, but hadnt got a reply.

What was the general consensus of ALL SPORT turface? John Deer doesnt have MVP, but said their ALL SPORT was close to it. I maybe though I had a read a post here disliking the allsport for some reason, but cant seem the remember the details.

i have never used the tailpieces longer than 6" but i don't see why not. what i'm seeing in these wider containers is that you actually need less of an air gap instead of more, which is what i expected. i don't know why yet but i think it has to do with a greater evaporative draw because of increased surface area.

but anyway, in my room, with my environment, in these larger containers, the plants look better at 3" instead of 4".

i have no experience with all sport but if you are using a fired clay product avoid particle sizes under about 1/8". if you are out west look for pumice stone under 3/8" or 10mm. i like the looks of it but i can't get it easily here.

a good grade of coco works well in these.
 

delta9nxs

No Jive Productions
Veteran
I was thinking more of when a couple plants are in stretch and a few are finishing up.

IME I have fed 2-3x as much this run as I have before and the plants are responding well, although I did get some claw. These girls were hungry!

Perhaps you wont need to feed as much. Since the plants will be at different stages of maturity their metabolism will be different as well.

My previous room was a perpetual set up and when it was humming along, it was perfect. I wouldn't mind switching one side of my flip flop to a perpetual just too keep all my patients happy.

Speaking of being happy and patience... can you commit to weekly pics? :tumbleweed:Just put your right thumb on the fingerprint scanner below:tiphat:

i didn't have co2 before but i definitely have to run hotter using it. i'll be feeding 1050-1100 in the veg area all the time and probably around 750-900 in flower but we'll see.

i can commit to weekly pics but my camera can't as it's on a mission.
 
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