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Anyone done hydro in a swimming pool?

macdiesel

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Has anyone used a small above ground swimming pool as a hydro tank? Plants could float on top in cover/net pots and below would just be lots of aerated water. Seems to me this would accomplish the same as something like an undercurrent/rdwc without the huge price tag and so many parts. Thoughts?
 

jm420

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there was a thread around years ago where a guy did a good size sog with a kiddiepool.i thinkhe used a big peiece of styrofoam as a cover and cut holes for pots
i dont recall how it turned out.
 

medicalmj

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Heat might be an issue. What about nutes? That'd run ya big $$$ to fill a pool! But sounds interesting.
 

whatthe215

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i always thought it would be funny if i turned my pool into a giant outdoor DWC... imagine a 40ft tall and wide tree yielding 500lbs. LOL
 

jm420

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cost me$$$ to run 20 18 gallon totes,roughly 300 gallons,i can do a cycle for about 350$
my res temps run mid 70's with no issues.
you would need 1 hell of an air pump
res changes would be a bitch for a pool lol.plants would probably die before you could empty and fill it.
plant maintence would be a hassle to but with some thought and the rite grower i bet it could be rocked
guees i got some thinking to do while im in the garden lol
 

macdiesel

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there was a thread around years ago where a guy did a good size sog with a kiddiepool.i thinkhe used a big peiece of styrofoam as a cover and cut holes for pots
i dont recall how it turned out.
Linky? :)

That's how they grow lettuce.
Exactly. If commercial ops are using this tech, why not us? ;)
Heat might be an issue. What about nutes? That'd run ya big $$$ to fill a pool! But sounds interesting.
Heat won't be an issue, but nuting up 500 gallons of h2o at a time is a $$$ concern.....but if algae is under control, why swap out the solution during the entire grow? Maybe just ramp it up!!
i always thought it would be funny if i turned my pool into a giant outdoor DWC... imagine a 40ft tall and wide tree yielding 500lbs. LOL
Pics? ;)
 

macdiesel

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cost me$$$ to run 20 18 gallon totes,roughly 300 gallons,i can do a cycle for about 350$
my res temps run mid 70's with no issues.
you would need 1 hell of an air pump
res changes would be a bitch for a pool lol.plants would probably die before you could empty and fill it.
plant maintence would be a hassle to but with some thought and the rite grower i bet it could be rocked[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=40283&pictureid=1014514&thumb=1]View Image[/url]
guees i got some thinking to do while im in the garden lol

maxigro/maxibloom wouldnt be too expensive me thinks
 

jm420

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wish i had the memory to remember where it was ,thing with dwc is res's kind of need to be changed or yeild will be affected,.im thinking a 4 person hot tub mite be a better option disconnect the heater and with a built in pump big problem solved.probably fit right under a 1k perfect 2.plus you can pick them up for almost free if the heater dosnt work
i run gh micro and bloom seems you can get away with higher res temps with no ill effects for the most part .the maxi series would probably do the trick for a little savings though
 

highonmt

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Has anyone used a small above ground swimming pool as a hydro tank?
No but I've done some other crazy shizit in a pool. If your going to add a bubbler just heat it up and call some chicks:woohoo:. PM yummybuds for some good prospects:moon:. Seems silly to me but if your willing to throw 5k in nutes in for every water change go ahead. I would just swim in the pool and build a shallow tub as big as you want out of poly and wood and use that.
HM
 

medicalmj

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cost me$$$ to run 20 18 gallon totes,roughly 300 gallons,i can do a cycle for about 350$
my res temps run mid 70's with no issues.
you would need 1 hell of an air pump
res changes would be a bitch for a pool lol.plants would probably die before you could empty and fill it.
plant maintence would be a hassle to but with some thought and the rite grower i bet it could be rocked[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=40283&pictureid=1014514&thumb=1]View Image[/url]
guees i got some thinking to do while im in the garden lol

Get a old jacuzzi and use the jets and pumps that'll prolly gen more o2 than a air hog (but get a big ole pump too). Get one of those 2ft deep pools that are 12' across and don't fill up all the way. They sell em with a pump and filter for 100 bucks or so.

Do it, I wanna see this thing!
 

TheArchitect

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first, if its a really big pool, say >1000 gallons, res changes become tedious and costly.

a better option is to have the solution tested frequently to see exactly what and how much you would need to add.

and for nutrients, raw salts of jr peters hydro, unless you want to spend hundreds if not thousands just to fill it.


temps, no worries, ideally the rootsone should match the canopy, but an in-ground pool would offer geothermal cooling.


this is actually a dream of mine.

a pool in a greenhouse...
 
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Homer J Pimpin

it can be done, it is neither practicle or cost effective... I doubt you're the only person to ever think of it but when you think of the total cost to run you are talking major major dollars.....and honestly I don't think there are too many growers willing to dump 5 grand worth of nutes and about 2 grand a month just to keep temps and airflow where they need to be.......imagine you lost power for 5 hrs.......and temps shot up and caused root rot....what then ? just take another 7 grand and start over ?
 

Gdood9

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it can be done, it is neither practicle or cost effective... I doubt you're the only person to ever think of it but when you think of the total cost to run you are talking major major dollars.....and honestly I don't think there are too many growers willing to dump 5 grand worth of nutes and about 2 grand a month just to keep temps and airflow where they need to be.......imagine you lost power for 5 hrs.......and temps shot up and caused root rot....what then ? just take another 7 grand and start over ?


It's actually quite cost effective. They wouldn't grow lettuce if it wasn't cost effective. The start up costs are a little more and you need constant water analysis but you never change out the water, just add water and nutrients as needed. You'd be using raw salts for ferts versus hydro store hobby grower bottled nutrients which are highly inflated in price. Large bodies of water are much harder to bring up in temperature also. In 5 hours of lost power you're not gonna see a temp increase.

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmq9SPPgUpc

Granted, this is a commercial operation but anything can be adapted.
 
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Homer J Pimpin

It's actually quite cost effective. They wouldn't grow lettuce if it wasn't cost effective. The start up costs are a little more and you need constant water analysis but you never change out the water, just add water and nutrients as needed. You'd be using raw salts for ferts versus hydro store hobby grower bottled nutrients which are highly inflated in price. Large bodies of water are much harder to bring up in temperature also. In 5 hours of lost power you're not gonna see a temp increase.

Check out this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmq9SPPgUpc

Granted, this is a commercial operation but anything can be adapted.


Ya know what why dont you prove me wrong by doing it.......so you can come back here and I'll say....I told you so.......it will cost 2 grand alone every month just to pay the power bill to keep temps and proper air flow but I suppose you have some kind of genius idea for that too like maybe building your own windmill....plus how do you keep light from destroying your roots and stop algee from breeding rampant...that video is completly useless........that is a hydroponic greenhouse and it costs several thousand dollars to operate a grow season with it by a major farming corporation.......This thread is about growing in weed in a swimming pool not growing veggies in a hydroponic greenhouse
 

TheArchitect

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Ya know what why dont you prove me wrong by doing it.......so you can come back here and I'll say....I told you so.......it will cost 2 grand alone every month just to pay the power bill to keep temps and proper air flow but I suppose you have some kind of genius idea for that too like maybe building your own windmill....plus how do you keep light from destroying your roots and stop algee from breeding rampant...that video is completly useless........that is a hydroponic greenhouse and it costs several thousand dollars to operate a grow season with it by a major farming corporation.......This thread is about growing in weed in a swimming pool not growing veggies in a hydroponic greenhouse

Ahhh so you've done this before so you know the costs?

Growing weed in a greenhouse in a pool is exactly how the costeffectively grow hydroponic lettuce on the multi acre scale.

Running this large is going to cost money, but many places actually become more efficient, like said before no water swaps just nutrient add back, unground pool negates cooling needs, circulation and aeration could be provided by a few large pumps, low matinence as more water equals longer between adjustments.

Unless you've run something similar, how do you know the cost, some people get electricity cheap, Cali rates are nuts so it probably would cost 2k a month but here in mi that 2 k is maybe 1k max, only a little more than I pay to run 6 light, yet I have a feeling the pool will yield more than 10-12 pounds like my lights.
 

cravin morehead

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what about throwing some fish in the pool and grow aquaponically?? the right amount of fish could feed the plants, and the fish can feed you and your family. there goes the nute costs. i've seen AQ grows with and without nutes added. tilapia are easy in an AQ set-up. they can tolerate all kinds of water parameters and can even live just fine with nutes added to the water. (like pk boosters and such).

just an idea,

cm
 

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