Going wheat free..

[theJointedOne]

Hey Tokers den,

So i decided to try and go wheat free in my diet. I have been reading a book called 'Wheat Belly', and it has some interesting points which had me thinking for a while and I decided to make a change.

Anyone else doing this?

 

[FuhQ]

Easier said then done, I know people that have to eat a gluten free diet. For a food lover it kind of rapes the joy out of eating, burgers without the bun, no pizza and gluten free baked goods just don't taste as good. I know wheat isn't really a food humans were meant to eat, but we are a population a bread addicts and it is really hard to get away from wheat products.

I try very hard to eat no more GMO foods, and even that is pretty hard. If you are going to swear off wheat you should swear off GMO too.

 

[theJointedOne]

For sure no gmo...thats a given imho

I dont think its too hard to go wheat free you just have to change your point of view and not crave things you once'd craved before...easier said than done though its true.

Pizza and Tortillas are going to be the hardest for me for sure. Pasta ect.

Even rice flours and other flours really are not that great for you...which leaves even less options on that table. But I think if i can find a balance of brown rice, beans, veggies, fruit, very small amounts of dairy and a few other food staples then i should be good hehe

 

[FuhQ]

You can still make some foods like pizza and pancakes wheat free

 

[Cool Moe]

Hey theJointedOne, I eliminated all wheat, rye and barley from my diet over 5 months ago. I hadn't yet read "Wheat Belly" but I suffered from general fatique and debilitating chronic muscle and joint pain. Someone I knew had gained relief from similar symptoms by going gluten-free. So I tried it. Within a day or two I started noticing changes. Chronic acid reflux (20 years of it) went away almost immediately and I haven't taken a tums or reflux pill since. IBS symptoms that I had for as long as I can remember went away within a few days and my stomach started working normally. Chronic fatigue went away within a few days. After a few weeks I mentioned to my wife that I hadn't been begging and pleading for backrubs any longer like I had up until the diet. Tendonitis in my elbow has gone away. Nagging shoulder pain following sports or work activities has gone away. My mood improved dramatically and within a few days of going wheat free I started to taper off anti depressants, now off em completely. And finally I lost 10 pounds and my weight has stopped fluctuating dramatically like it had it the past.

So while I'm not sure what ails you I can say with certainty that if you are celiac or gluten-intolerant and you eat wheat that shit can eff you up man. And even worse, throughout all the symptoms I list above and over years and years of seeing doctors in an effort to gain relief, not one of them ever suggested that wheat could be the problem. Not a single one.

Good luck man, if ya try it I hope it helps you as much as it helped me.

 

[mugenbao]

Anyone else doing this?

I haven't read that book yet, but I've been doing this for about five months now. I feel *significantly* better, so much so that it's obvious to everyone who is close to me, and my lipid and blood sugar profiles have improved enough to impress my doctor. My severe and chronic reflux is much improved as well, and I'm losing weight at a decent rate for the first time in my life despite having tried valiantly dozens of times before.

The other day I was moving a 5KG block of coco coir, and as I was holding it I realized "Holy shit, I've lost the equivalent of more than three of these without even trying!". It was a rather nice moment

I was compelled to try going wheat- and grain-free after reading Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories" for the second time, and am firmly convinced that it was one of the best decisions I've made in a long time. Thank you to whoever it was on icmag that suggested the book, I can no longer remember their name, but that serendipitous post has made a huge change for me


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[Hydro-Soil]

I can handle wheat... most forms are neutral for the "A" blood type but I can definitely tell when I've been eating too much of it. It's not 'beneficial' after all. hehehe Gosh I love wheat bread. *sigh*

My wife just finished 4 days of a couple slices of wheat toast a day. "B" blood type and hasn't had wheat in quite some time.

She's puffy and red faced, among other things. Tight wheat belly, etc...

I cannot stress enough how important it is to choose your foods according to your blood type and genetic background. Truly amazing information.

Here's the link I've been using for a few years with great success across all blood types.

Oat flour is what we use now... it's neutral for everyone and doesn't have issues like wheat. Pancakes, bread, cakes and cookies. Noodles we make from rice flour.


Stay Safe!

 

[bombadil.360]

holy shit, I was about to post that Hydro Soil would appear in this thread with his diet for blood type that he can't stress enough... got here late though, duty called elsewhere!

 

[theJointedOne]

You can still make some foods like pizza and pancakes wheat free, some of the alternate ingredients are things like tapioca flour, corn flour, rice flour and xanthan gum, I just dont think they taste nearly as good. Most of the substitute recipes I have tried have a grittier, grainier texture to them, hard to describe, but to me I would just not eat those foods instead of trying to make alternate recipes.

Sad thing is a lot of these people that get put on wheat restricted diets are unsuspectingly pushed into eating just as much GMO because corn is a huge GMO crop and if they want to eat packaged gluten free food they are most likely eating tons of gmo.

My wife is a health nut and she eats much like you are describing, little to no wheat, just meat, fruit, veggies, nuts and limited milk. Although we have stopped eating brown rice and brown pasta, she says if pasta is eaten in limited amounts white vs brown isnt as big of a deal and the brown just has a little more fiber but not good for every body type as it is harder to digest.

You will probably find this to be a positive life change, I have cleaned up my diet substantially over the last 2 years eliminating all GMO foods and eating better quality food with no High Fructose Corn Syrup or food colorings and I feel better than ever, and I never get sick.

interesting, thanks for the reply.

Hey theJointedOne, I eliminated all wheat, rye and barley from my diet over 5 months ago. I hadn't yet read "Wheat Belly" but I suffered from general fatique and debilitating chronic muscle and joint pain. Someone I knew had gained relief from similar symptoms by going gluten-free. So I tried it. Within a day or two I started noticing changes. Chronic acid reflux (20 years of it) went away almost immediately and I haven't taken a tums or reflux pill since. IBS symptoms that I had for as long as I can remember went away within a few days and my stomach started working normally. Chronic fatigue went away within a few days. After a few weeks I mentioned to my wife that I hadn't been begging and pleading for backrubs any longer like I had up until the diet. Tendonitis in my elbow has gone away. Nagging shoulder pain following sports or work activities has gone away. My mood improved dramatically and within a few days of going wheat free I started to taper off anti depressants, now off em completely. And finally I lost 10 pounds and my weight has stopped fluctuating dramatically like it had it the past.

So while I'm not sure what ails you I can say with certainty that if you are celiac or gluten-intolerant and you eat wheat that shit can eff you up man. And even worse, throughout all the symptoms I list above and over years and years of seeing doctors in an effort to gain relief, not one of them ever suggested that wheat could be the problem. Not a single one.

Good luck man, if ya try it I hope it helps you as much as it helped me.

thanks, sounds like it made a huge difference in your life, awesome!

I haven't read that book yet, but I've been doing this for about five months now. I feel *significantly* better, so much so that it's obvious to everyone who is close to me, and my lipid and blood sugar profiles have improved enough to impress my doctor. My severe and chronic reflux is much improved as well, and I'm losing weight at a decent rate for the first time in my life despite having tried valiantly dozens of times before.

The other day I was moving a 5KG block of coco coir, and as I was holding it I realized "Holy shit, I've lost the equivalent of more than three of these without even trying!". It was a rather nice moment

I was compelled to try going wheat- and grain-free after reading Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories" for the second time, and am firmly convinced that it was one of the best decisions I've made in a long time. Thank you to whoever it was on icmag that suggested the book, I can no longer remember their name, but that serendipitous post has made a huge change for me


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cool man, ill check out that book. thanks

I can handle wheat... most forms are neutral for the "A" blood type but I can definitely tell when I've been eating too much of it. It's not 'beneficial' after all. hehehe Gosh I love wheat bread. *sigh*

My wife just finished 4 days of a couple slices of wheat toast a day. "B" blood type and hasn't had wheat in quite some time.

She's puffy and red faced, among other things. Tight wheat belly, etc...

I cannot stress enough how important it is to choose your foods according to your blood type and genetic background. Truly amazing information.

Here's the link I've been using for a few years with great success across all blood types.

Oat flour is what we use now... it's neutral for everyone and doesn't have issues like wheat. Pancakes, bread, cakes and cookies. Noodles we make from rice flour.


Stay Safe!

thanks for the info and the link.



So far today had a great breakfast and lunch with no wheat...so far so good

 

[EllieGrows]

hey tj1, I work to reduce the amount of wheat and gluten in my diet but can never seem to eliminate it. definitely improves life quality.

 

[BlueBlazer]

Can I have your sammich then?

 

[mpd]

Sounds like the Atkins Diet...

 

[smoke1sun]

Recipes involving Almond flour might be of interest.

You could also make pizza crust out of riced cauliflower, its not to bad.

 

[lost in a sea]

it is a genetic thing where some people are mildly allergic to wheat and dont know that they could be feeling better if they cut it out.. can lead to auto immune problems, most commonly visible as dermatitis and other skin problems ...

the same thing goes for other types of fats and carbohydrates..

nothing like the atkins diet though or dieting, this is an allergy that many people dont realise they have..

 

[toughmudderdave]

Sounds like the Atkins Diet...

It's not.

 

[toughmudderdave]

I read the book almost a year ago. I found it interesting, but not entirely convincing. That being said, I thought I would use my body as a "test platform" and go wheat free. Initially I said I would do it for a month. I went 6 months entirely, and very strictly, wheat free.

Did I feel any different? No. Did I feel any better? Not really. But what I did notice was I got leaner (after hitting a plateau for awhile)...Significantly so. I'll be 53 in 2 months and I've got "abdominals"!!! I just had my body fat hydrostatically tested (water submersion) and I am now in the "athlete category".

That being said, I've gone back to eating wheat, but on a limited basis. Good luck with the diet. I know I got results from it.

 

[toughmudderdave]

Recipes involving Almond flour might be of interest.

You could also make pizza crust out of riced cauliflower, its not to bad.

Rice flour makes a great roux for gravy. I've used it in my recipes and it really works well.

 

[toughmudderdave]

Easier said then done, I know people that have to eat a gluten free diet. For a food lover it kind of rapes the joy out of eating, burgers without the bun, no pizza and gluten free baked goods just don't taste as good. I know wheat isn't really a food humans were meant to eat, but we are a population a bread addicts and it is really hard to get away from wheat products.

I try very hard to eat no more GMO foods, and even that is pretty hard. If you are going to swear off wheat you should swear off GMO too.

Look at some of my dishes in the Food Porn thread and tell me that. Many of those dishes were while I was eating a "wheat free" diet. My "Fish n' Chips" are wheat/gluten free and VERY delicious.

I won't deny that I missed pizza, and pasta to a greater extent (rice noodles and Thai food helped that), but it can be done without sacrificing eating healthy and very tasty dishes.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

holy shit, I was about to post that Hydro Soil would appear in this thread with his diet for blood type that he can't stress enough... got here late though, duty called elsewhere!

You're right. It's like LSD... unless you've experienced it, you really have no idea what I'm talking about. Therefore, what I say tends to fall on deaf ears. *shrug*

I'll keep bringing it up though... until enough people experience it and talk about it like I am. Then I'll be able to let others do what I'm doing now.

This explains why some people can eat wheat and others can't.

Refined, unbleached wheat is neutral to only the A and B blood types that have 'secretor' status. Not beneficial... just neutral. Same for Wheat, Semolina, Enriched

Wheat, White is neutral for A, B and AB... again, only if your status is 'secretor'.

Wheat, Whole is neutral for A and AB only... and again, only if your status is 'secretor'.


So.. if you're O blood type, no wheat... period. If you're a non-secretor... no wheat, period.

If you're A, B or AB secretor... eat the wheat you're allowed but eat it sparingly.

There's an entire world of 'health' that nobody around my family is experiencing. I've talked to folks on the net that are where we're at... but none in person yet. Truly amazing that we ended up where we are.

Stay Safe!

 

[Green lung]

You're right. It's like LSD... unless you've experienced it, you really have no idea what I'm talking about. Therefore, what I say tends to fall on deaf ears. *shrug*

I'll keep bringing it up though... until enough people experience it and talk about it like I am. Then I'll be able to let others do what I'm doing now.

This explains why some people can eat wheat and others can't.

Refined, unbleached wheat is neutral to only the A and B blood types that have 'secretor' status. Not beneficial... just neutral. Same for Wheat, Semolina, Enriched

Wheat, White is neutral for A, B and AB... again, only if your status is 'secretor'.

Wheat, Whole is neutral for A and AB only... and again, only if your status is 'secretor'.


So.. if you're O blood type, no wheat... period. If you're a non-secretor... no wheat, period.

If you're A, B or AB secretor... eat the wheat you're allowed but eat it sparingly.

There's an entire world of 'health' that nobody around my family is experiencing. I've talked to folks on the net that are where we're at... but none in person yet. Truly amazing that we ended up where we are.

Stay Safe!

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Thats the dumbest shit I ever heard of lol





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