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Media Threat to Cannabis

By the way guys, you do realise that these people ban us from growing marijuana, but sell drugs themselves right? And No I don't mean pharmaceuticals (though of course they own the largest drugs companies/medical facilities/etc as well).

They've been in the drug business for centuries and there is historical evidence of it readily available on the Internet. People don't really think It's a coincidence that poppy production in Afghanistan is higher now than it's ever been do they? I'm sure I've read somewhere that the CIA have been involved in drugs for years to fund their black projects, and I am certain that it goes much deeper than that if that is true - our secret services and governments are involved in drug production and traffic on behalf of my friends the Rothschilds and the Queen. I am certain because our governments have been involved with it in the past, so at what point did it stop? There has never been a public announcement that it has stopped.

Most people don't know that Hong Kong was stolen from the Chinese as a easily defensible harbour to sell opium to China (Chinese ships were inferior to British ships so they couldn't invade Hong Kong). When the Chinese took steps to stop the sale of opium the British sacked the Winter Palace, as well as other humiliating acts to the Chinese. One of China's greatest tourist spots is visiting the ruins of the Winter Palace, a monument they considered to be one of the world's greatest structures - destroyed because China tried to stop Britain selling opium. The Chinese know about this stuff more than we do in the West, they have best sellers (such as 'Currency Wars' by Song Hongbing) about the secret history of European banking and monarchy, books which can't be purchased in the West (even on Amazon) despite being one of the top sellers in China.

Jardine Matherson was one of the companies that sold opium to China, illegally, but who were protected by the British Navy, given 99 year leased land in Hong Kong by the British Crown, who's head was and is given nobility rank in Britain, with members in Parliament etc. This company is still trading to this day, you can go to their impressive head quarters in Hong Kong to this day, go on google and find out about their history. One of the most profitable companies in the world still to this day, and it is partly owned by the Rothschilds openly (not like how people say that Reuters was bought by the Rothschilds in the 1800s, which has no proof, they actually openly say on the Jardine Matherson website that the Rothschilds are partners, a company founded to sell opium).

But don't get me wrong guys, for every winery they own in Champagne (and they own a lot - look it up) I am sure they subvertly own 3 times as many that we can't look up. I'm just making a wild estimate there but it is a common practise even in the normal business world to own things through holding companies in the Canary Islands, Jersey Islands, Dubai, Switzerland etc. etc. so as to avoid tax/or whatever reason (most of these offshore tax havens are of course is owned by the Crown/Rothschilds) so I don't think that they only control their publicly stated companies, and I am sure they have investments in many places we do not know and cannot find out about because of legal loopholes and protections that they themselves have put in place.

Oh don't forget they own the best lawyer and accountancy firms as well guys.
 
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So...and again...what is it we should do? What do you want to do about the evil empires? What's the course?

The truth is....you'd not have a clue where to start...and you would most likely come to find out...you would not be liberating any slaves...nor do the slaves want to even be liberated.

You can shine the light all you want...but who really cares? Do you ever look at your fellow citizens? Do they really need to be free of their controllers? Do they want to be?

There is no brotherhood of man. That's a man made concept. There never was...it was never intended...it's lip service..that is all

Check FaceBook...read the intelligence...that's what you are trying to enlighten. It's a serious waste of your energy...and if you can't see that...well...keep plugging away at an agenda that serves more you...than them.

What exactly is it....that needs to be got? What do you...realistically...want? And how are you so sure you know these things? "Logic"..."obviousness"..."stands to reason"...doesn't get you there.

* suggest reading The Politics of Heroin (CIA complicity in the global drug trade)...about the best documentation out there concerning the centuries of narco wars. If not one bunch of enterprising thugs...then it's another. There is no need for people to wake up to this. There really isn't.
 
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^I know exactly where to start. I know to the point that I have gotten the attention of people that dont like it. The thought that pissed them off is when I started explaining true anarchy and exponential communications to other people.

You have to first come up with a simple message that people can understand that exposes the truth. then you have to think about exponential communication. Kind of like a chain letter, but one that has significance. The best way to test the message is tell 100 people. Even if ten of them truly get the message they will make sure at least ten other people actually get that message as they did. When this happens on just 8 levels you have reached 100 million people. This is enough for evolution of politics. Not revolution of old ideas and arguments; but political and societal evolution, based off of making society self sustaining through science

It scares the crap out of the establishment that I get exponential communication. I also get how they use it for propaganda and know how to expose them. that is what terrifies them.
 
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^I know exactly where to start. I know to the point that I have gotten the attention of people that dont like it. The thought that pissed them off is when I started explaining true anarchy and exponential communications to other people.

You have to first come up with a simple message that people can understand that exposes the truth. then you have to think about exponential communication. Kind of like a chain letter, but one that has significance. The best way to test the message is tell 100 people. Even if ten of them truly get the message they will make sure at least ten other people actually get that message as they did. When this happens on just 8 levels you have reached 100 million people.

It scares the crap out of the establishment that I get exponential communication. I also get how they use it for propaganda and know how to expose them. that is what terrifies them.

There are many different truths Hash. You're exposing only partial truths. In a way...you are trying to do some controlling...by gathering these attentions to what you see as the truth.

People do not want anarchy. They are a herd animal...and need to be watched over....handled by controllers. As an individual...you can break away for a bit..but a mass stampede is not going to happen. Truth be damned.
 
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im sick of hearing abuot this shit.. sorry dude.. the demand will always be there. so get ur shit together.. ur equipment set up.. plants dialed. and grrow some primo. and ull be ok.

is anyone else having problems posting pictures? i have a ton to add to album and it just keeps erasing them .
 

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im sick of hearing abuot this shit.. sorry dude.. the demand will always be there. so get ur shit together.. ur equipment set up.. plants dialed. and grrow some primo. and ull be ok.

is anyone else having problems posting pictures? i have a ton to add to album and it just keeps erasing them .

IF YOU DONT LIKE READING ABOUT THEN GO BACK TO BEING A SHEEP AND LEAVE MY THREAD.

No shit the demand will always be there. the threat isn't to eliminate it's desirability. the threat is to slow down our progress in legalization....

get outta town. telling me about dialing in and growing "primo". I have been growing "primo" since you were on training wheel grows. lol
 
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There are many different truths Hash. You're exposing only partial truths. In a way...you are trying to do some controlling...by gathering these attentions to what you see as the truth.

People do not want anarchy. They are a herd animal...and need to be watched over....handled by controllers. As an individual...you can break away for a bit..but a mass stampede is not going to happen. Truth be damned.

people are not herd animals. they dont need to be herded. People can be educated. Also I am not exposing partial truth. I am exposing full truth.

There is no mass stampede at all. It is just causing a mass awareness that is required. After the history is given, all thos political evolution requires a person to do, is take part in their local politics and communities. A democratic Anarchy can not be achieved through war, force, or divine right. It can only be achieved through an active populous. Its powers validity comes from the people only.

When the populous realizes that they are being purposely kept busy to keep them from being informed they will make time. Then they realize they are given just enough to not revolt, but so little that they will never be anything other than serfs.

Armed with information the populous will just take more from the get go. they will stop using banks and they will form their own currency in the black market. common goods will be sold in the black market just to keep commence profit from reaching the establishment.

This will provoke the establishment to order violent attacks. This is where they fail. One or two small attacks maybe carried out, but you will not get our soldiers to wage all out war on peaceful citizens that they swore to protect. The men and woman that make up the military are poor to middle class. they will not support 400 people over 300,000,000 people. The huge military industrial complex that the plutocrats spent their money on will be useless. They will be removed from their seats of power and the nations wealth they have been stealing and hoarding since the 1600's will be returned to the people. Debts to banks will be eliminated. A fresh start will occur.
 
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people are not herd animals. they dont need to be herded. People can be educated. Also I am not exposing partial truth. I am exposing full truth.

There is no mass stampede at all. It is just causing a mass awareness that is required. After the history is given, all thos political evolution requires a person to do, is take part in their local politics and communities. A democratic Anarchy can not be achieved through war, force, or divine right. It can only be achieved through an active populous. Its powers validity comes from the people only.

When the populous realizes that they are being purposely kept busy to keep them from being informed they will make time. Then they realize they are given just enough to not revolt, but so little that they will never be anything other than serfs.

Armed with information the populous will just take more from the get go. they will stop using banks and they will form their own currency in the black market. common goods will be sold in the black market just to keep commence profit from reaching the establishment.

This will provoke the establishment to order violent attacks. This is where they fail. One or two small attacks maybe carried out, but you will not get our soldiers to wage all out war on peaceful citizens that they swore to protect. The men and woman that make up the military are poor to middle class. they will not support 400 people over 300,000,000 people. The huge military industrial complex that the plutocrats spent their money on will be useless. They will be removed from their seats of power and the nations wealth they have been stealing and hoarding since the 1600's will be returned to the people. Debts to banks will be eliminated. A fresh start will occur.

Then we are at odds. I do not see your truths. I see lots of conjecture...wishful thinking...and dissatisfactions. I see your vision of the world...but I don't see its truth. It's your opinion...to which you are entitled...but claiming it as word...as truth...is only accurate to your vision. Truth is not universal...or collective

I walk amongst the population...and see a glaring reality: These monkeys do not need to be thinking for themselves. They would not know how...nor even want...to be free of the current system. Even if I could...I'd not want to educate them. Just like...I wouldn't want to bash my head...into a cement wall. It's pointless to show them anything...but the path to least resistance. Like all animals (herd or otherwise) that's what they always choose.

If you were to liberate them..if you could get them to go along with your truths...they would be highly unhappy. The truth would not set them free at all. Perhaps..way back when...this was already realized...and the need for controls sparked at that time.

Has anarchy ever existed? If so...how long did it last?
 
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I thought that guy was shunned after the dead girls voicemail scandal, or did the fire bush end up taking the brunt of it?

I did, too.

I see Murdoch not so much being an enemy of cannabis, as much as I see him being, by proxy, one of the corporate co-opters, via Philip Morris.
 
Then we are at odds. I do not see your truths. I see lots of conjecture...wishful thinking...and dissatisfactions. I see your vision of the world...but I don't see its truth. It's your opinion...to which you are entitled...but claiming it as word...as truth...is only accurate to your vision. Truth is not universal...or collective

I walk amongst the population...and see a glaring reality: These monkeys do not need to be thinking for themselves. They would not know how...nor even want...to be free of the current system. Even if I could...I'd not want to educate them. Just like...I wouldn't want to bash my head...into a cement wall. It's pointless to show them anything...but the path to least resistance. Like all animals (herd or otherwise) that's what they always choose.

If you were to liberate them..if you could get them to go along with your truths...they would be highly unhappy. The truth would not set them free at all. Perhaps..way back when...this was already realized...and the need for controls sparked at that time.

Has anarchy ever existed? If so...how long did it last?

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Revolution will happen...it always does eventually. So what?
 
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Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Revolution will happen...it always does eventually. So what?

Revolution can pass me on by...as it all revolves..full circle. Only thing that changes...are the seasons. You'd think that people would have gotten that by now.

The heart of darkness...may be the realization...that people want to be controlled. That's the madness they can't face. It's the dirty secret..and the reason controls perpetuate. People evolved out of the free wilderness..and into safe caged societies...because they wanted to feel safe and protected. They wanted to survive more easily...take the path of least resistance. True (in my reality) to this very day.
 
There are those that take the easy road, and there are those that take pleasure in taking the hard road.

Pablos, you really think that the Japanese Samurai, who spent their entire lives striving for perfection in every moment of life in every pursuit, pushing themselves to the limit mentally, physically, spiritually went for the path of least resistance? You think when they committed sepuku and took their own life at the whim of their leader, they did it because it was the path of least resistance? You think that their protracted and complex custom for simply drinking some tea, was because they went for the path of least resistance? Look at any great man, women, and you will see that they pushed themselves to the limit. Was Ghengis Khan really riding days on end on his horse, shitting on his horse, eating the same piece of mutton from between his legs after days on horse back, you think he went for the path of least resistance? I could go on my friend.

You have become disillusioned by their propaganda Pablos. They have destroyed your soul. You seriously take the easiest route in all your life choices? You'd rather sit on your arse than work, focus, do something challenging that makes you go into Zen, you know become one with the universe? Come on man everyone wants that feeling, why else do we play videogames (a challenge) or even write on these message boards (debating a point, a challenge). If what you say is true you wouldn't even reply to me, you'd sit there stoned and laugh at my stupidity, or anyone else's.

Humans are after a challenge, we enjoy it.

Life in itself is something that is pushing against resistance, creating a greater resistance than that around it.

Any business man can tell you that taking the path of least resistance means you will be out of business very soon.

All in all you are wrong. And with the power of the Internet, in this day and age, which with the speed that technology is advancing, and in our global village with the aid of the Internet (bare in mind it is still young, FaceBook isn't all that the Internet can offer us Pablos), we do have a chance to take humanity onto the next stage, and shake off this chain of monarchy and an aged economic system which is based on scarcity and not on our recent capacity to create abundance. With our newly developed power to literally suck the ground, oceans and skies dry we need a new economic model lest we destroy ourselves or our cradle, the earth, before we become a galatic power.

We deserve better as a race, and so does the Universe. We may be the only intelligent life in the whole Universe for all we know, and look at the state of us as a race. It's laughable. And we need to get more aware, because in 20 or 50 or 100 years time things can get significantly better.
 
Pablos, you really think that the Japanese Samurai, who spent their entire lives striving for perfection in every moment of life in every pursuit, pushing themselves to the limit mentally, physically, spiritually went for the path of least resistance? You think when they committed sepuku and took their own life at the whim of their leader, they did it because it was the path of least resistance? You think that their protracted and complex custom for simply drinking some tea, was because they went for the path of least resistance? Look at any great man, women, and you will see that they pushed themselves to the limit. Was Ghengis Khan really riding days on end on his horse, shitting on his horse, eating the same piece of mutton from between his legs after days on horse back, drinking the blood of his donkey, you think he went for the path of least resistance? I could go on my friend.

You have become disillusioned by their propaganda Pablos. They have destroyed your soul. You seriously take the easiest route in all your life choices? You'd rather sit on your arse than work, focus, do something challenging that makes you go into Zen, you know become one with the universe? Come on man everyone wants that feeling, why else do we play videogames (a challenge) or even write on these message boards (debating a point, a challenge). If what you say is true you wouldn't even reply to me, you'd sit there stoned and laugh at my stupidity, or anyone else's.

Humans are after a challenge, we enjoy it. That is what makes us great.

Life itself is something that is pushing against resistance, creating a greater resistance than the resistance surrounding it.

Any business man can tell you that taking the path of least resistance means you will be out of business.

All in all you are wrong. And with the power of the Internet, in this day and age, which with the speed that technology is advancing, and in our global village with the aid of the Internet with humanities natural desire to become better and improve, things can change.

We deserve better as a race, and so does the Universe. We may be the only intelligent life in the whole Universe for all we know, and look at the state of us as a race. It's laughable. Yes we need to get more aware, and it is a shame a clearly intelligent man as yourself has chosen to stay mute, because in 20 or 50 or 100 years time things can be barely recognisable. Just as your father.
 
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There are those that take the easy road, and there are those that take pleasure in taking the hard road.

Pablos, you really think that the Japanese Samurai, who spent their entire lives striving for perfection in every moment of life in every pursuit, pushing themselves to the limit mentally, physically, spiritually went for the path of least resistance? You think when they committed sepuku and took their own life at the whim of their leader, they did it because it was the path of least resistance? You think that their protracted and complex custom for simply drinking some tea, was because they went for the path of least resistance? Look at any great man, women, and you will see that they pushed themselves to the limit. Was Ghengis Khan really riding days on end on his horse, shitting on his horse, eating the same piece of mutton from between his legs after days on horse back, you think he went for the path of least resistance? I could go on my friend.

You have become disillusioned by their propaganda Pablos. They have destroyed your soul. You seriously take the easiest route in all your life choices? You'd rather sit on your arse than work, focus, do something challenging that makes you go into Zen, you know become one with the universe? Come on man everyone wants that feeling, why else do we play videogames (a challenge) or even write on these message boards (debating a point, a challenge). If what you say is true you wouldn't even reply to me, you'd sit there stoned and laugh at my stupidity, or anyone else's.

Humans are after a challenge, we enjoy it.

Life in itself is something that is pushing against resistance, creating a greater resistance than that around it.

Any business man can tell you that taking the path of least resistance means you will be out of business very soon.

All in all you are wrong. And with the power of the Internet, in this day and age, which with the speed that technology is advancing, and in our global village with the aid of the Internet (bare in mind it is still young, FaceBook isn't all that the Internet can offer us Pablos), we do have a chance to take humanity onto the next stage, and shake off this chain of monarchy and an aged economic system which is based on scarcity and not on our recent capacity to create abundance. With our newly developed power to literally suck the ground, oceans and skies dry we need a new economic model lest we destroy ourselves or our cradle, the earth, before we become a galatic power.

We deserve better as a race, and so does the Universe. We may be the only intelligent life in the whole Universe for all we know, and look at the state of us as a race. It's laughable. And we need to get more aware, because in 20 or 50 or 100 years time things can get significantly better.

Ok...I'm wrong. You said so. You know. Your will is the only will...your way...the only way. Because you know. On the highway to control

You and I will never reason. I do not bang my head into cement walls. Do as you do...as long as it doesn't prevent other's pursuit of happiness...godspeed

Emotional involvement blinds the path.....and ends all discussion. You have your vision..and you are sticking to it..no matter what. Reasoning and logic are lost. My points have missed. Overthrow the evil empires...death to tyrants......spread the electronic information....create a positive hybrid human conscience...spread love...spread freedom....it's all so very close....and so very very real. I see no evidence of this happening...none. Disillusioned? Me? are you kidding?...I'm happier than a pig in shit...fuck man...check on yourself
 
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Murdoch started off as a friend of the worker and the down trodden. His first paper where he started off as a mail boy - The News- here in Adelaide, South Australia was a champion of blue collar workers. He would stir the establishment into action over social injustice. Mind you he inherited The News from his father.

Somewhere along the way he sold his soul. Instead of being sympathetic to left wing politics he's now in bed with the extreme right. He is an evil man with no conscience.

The only decent thing he has done is renounce his Australian citizenship and become an American.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Then we are at odds. I do not see your truths. I see lots of conjecture...wishful thinking...and dissatisfactions. I see your vision of the world...but I don't see its truth. It's your opinion...to which you are entitled...but claiming it as word...as truth...is only accurate to your vision. Truth is not universal...or collective

I walk amongst the population...and see a glaring reality: These monkeys do not need to be thinking for themselves. They would not know how...nor even want...to be free of the current system. Even if I could...I'd not want to educate them. Just like...I wouldn't want to bash my head...into a cement wall. It's pointless to show them anything...but the path to least resistance. Like all animals (herd or otherwise) that's what they always choose.

If you were to liberate them..if you could get them to go along with your truths...they would be highly unhappy. The truth would not set them free at all. Perhaps..way back when...this was already realized...and the need for controls sparked at that time.

Has anarchy ever existed? If so...how long did it last?

I have educated and changed many minds. All a sheepish person needs is proper critical thinking skills, and they will come to their own realization. Then they will observe the truth, of how modern society operates vs. how they are told it operates. That is when there can be political and societal evolution.

There have been many anarchist governments in the past. the majority of indigenous tribes around the globe including all of the native American tribes. They were systematically wiped out by the current establishment. Remember the definition of anarchy is not chaos or lack of organization. It just means that its power is not granted by force or divine right. It is granted by the people and controlled by an active populous.

Another thing that will interest you to know is that the majority of wars, including all U.S. wars, both sides are financed by the same banks. They have been doing this a long time.

Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Revolution will happen...it always does eventually. So what?

again. you guys are not getting it. I am not talking about political revolution here. I am talking about EVOLUTION. New ideas that were not possible before because the technology was not there. Now it is.

Why do you think the people in control have technology ten years ahead of us and release it only after they milk the previous product's profitability. They wont even let us have free power until they are done exhausting oil and coal. Yet almost 100 years ago, Nicoli Tesla invented a tower that would pull static electricity straight out of the air give everyone free power.

Murdoch started off as a friend of the worker and the down trodden. His first paper where he started off as a mail boy - The News- here in Adelaide, South Australia was a champion of blue collar workers. He would stir the establishment into action over social injustice. Mind you he inherited The News from his father.

Somewhere along the way he sold his soul. Instead of being sympathetic to left wing politics he's now in bed with the extreme right. He is an evil man with no conscience.

The only decent thing he has done is renounce his Australian citizenship and become an American.

If you are still caught up in the left right argument then you are way behind. There is no left or right. there is only plutocrat and serf. The U.S.A. isnt even a sovereign country. We are just a state in the Global Plutonomy.
 
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What truth???????????? That there is behind the scenes shit going on????? You are still talking to people like you have an inside scoop. Like it's 101...but you have not stated one single truth. You have posted up stuff...that like you...has an agenda. The agenda is to give credence to the world's corruption. Well...no kidding dude.

Some native American tribes had monarchies...check your facts. They had federations as well. They also fought the hell out of each other...long before Europe ever arrived. Don't play the native american card. Lumping them together...is kind of ill advised.

That international banks....and their owners...back wars on all sides...is common sense...and no revelation. America is a corporation...and has lots of foreign backers. Christ...why do you think the Swiss remain neutral? Back in the day...they were the safe zone...for the war mongers to funnel cash. Maybe they still are...but I'd think...that no...there are more crafty ways to flow war profits.


Am I coming across as retarded?...do you really believe....that I sit around buying into political rhetoric? Do I sound like a flag waving USA USA USA chanting patriot? America is a drug dealing and weapons dealing corporation...run by many different foreign backers. Been that way (foreign backers)...since the inception of the country. Again...No Shit. America...and any other country...normally goes to war for profit. It's business. It's not about nationalism...that's for the chanters....for the sheep you feel you need to save. Ain't no romance here...America came to be...so the powers that be...could divide the wealth accrued by exploiting the natural resources. Pretty obvious

You're starting to sound less idealistic...and more like a cult leader. Your education...more like indoctrination into your views.

So...let's say...I want to be a part of your anarchy. What do I need to do?

* whatever manipulation you think will be made with technology...is moot. If you are thinking it....if you have it...it's because your opposition has figured out how they will control it. As long as there are full bellies..they have no need to fear you or your evolution.
 
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Hash is correct, there IS no "left" or "right" in politics today, hasn't been for DECADES! look at the most recent heavily "contested" election. you had Al Gore (now richer than Romney since he sold his TV station to al jazeera) who was a member of Harvards Skull & Bones club versus GW Bush, also a member of the club. both were backed by the very same military-industrial internationalists/financiers. it mattered not to those moneyed groups which pol won the election, they were both on the leash before election day. try reading "Rule by Secrecy" by Marrs if you like sitting up nights worried about our (and out childrens) future.
almost every single influential person in politics today (actually, since the late 1800s)has been a member of this group, or one closely linked to it (the Bilderbergers, the Trilaterals, etc).
 

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I think this post should be on the thread called psywar, but it's on here.

Basically I am just giving people a history lesson. They have been taught the half of history about government and wars. I am just filling in the blanks. Teaching them the history of money and who and what financed those wars. People spend a lot of time bickering about left right politics because they want to help. They know something is wrong. I am just informing whats wrong and what they should be addressing instead of attacking each other.

The illusion of the two party system must be broken for people to realize they are just just being tricked by the classic divide and conquer tactic.
 

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