Media Threat to Cannabis

[Hash Zeppelin]

part 3....

Most all will be aware of Hitler's rise to power. What they probably don't know is that he was almost completely financed by money drawn from the privately owned American Federal Reserve.

Through the Federal Reserve Board over $30 billion of American money has been pumped into Germany. You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany...

Modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total."
Congressman Louis T.McFadden (D-PA) who served twelve years as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency.

THE HISTORY OF MONEY PART 3


WORLD WAR I (1914-1918)

The Germans borrowed money from the German Rothschilds bank, the British from the British Rothschilds bank, and the French from the French Rothschilds.

American super banker J.P. Morgan was amongst other things also a sales agent for war materials. Six months into the war his spending of $10 million a day made him the largest consumer on the planet.

The Rockefeller's and the head of president Willson's War Industries Board, Bernard Baruch each made some 200 million dollars while families contributed their sons to the bloody front lines, but profit was not the only motive for involvement.

Russia had spoiled the money changers plan to split America in two, and remained the last major country not to have its own central bank.

However, three years after the start of the war the entire Russian Royal Family was killed and Communism began.

You might find it strange to learn that the Russian Revolution was also fuelled with British money. Capitalist businessmen financing Communism?

Author Gary Allen gives his explanation:

"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."
Gary Allen, Author

W.Cleon Skousen wrote in his book 'The Naked Capitalist'.

"Power from any source tends to create an appetite for additional power... It was almost inevitable that the super-rich would one day aspire to control not only their own wealth, but the wealth of the whole world.

To achieve this, they were perfectly willing to feed the ambitions of the power-hungry political conspirators who were committed to the overthrow of all existing governments and the establishments of a central world-wide dictatorship."
W.Cleon Skousen

Extreme revolutionary groups were controlled by being financed when they complied and cut off, with money sometimes being given to their opposition, when they didn't.

If you find this hard to believe, listen to what the so called dictator of the new Soviet Union had to say.

"The state does not function as we desired. The car does not obey. A man is at the wheel and seems to lead it, but the car does not drive in the desired direction. It moves as another force wishes."
Vladimir Lenin 1

Rep. Louis T. McFadden, chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee throughout the 1920-30s explained it this way.

"The course of Russian history has, indeed, been greatly affected by the operations of international bankers... The Soviet Government has been given United States Treasury funds by the Federal Reserve Board... acting through the Chase Bank. ...

England has drawn money from us through the Federal Reserve Banks and has re-lent it at high rates of interest to the Soviet Government... The Dnieperstory Dam was built with funds unlawfully taken from the United States Treasury by the corrupt and dishonest Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks." Rep. Louis T.McFadden (D-PA) 2

Even when Communism collapsed in the Soviet Union, Boris Yeltsin revealed that most of the foreign aid was ending up, we quote. "straight back into the coffers of western banks in debt service."


1. Wurmbrand, "Marx and Satan," p. 49
2.United States Congressional Record, June 15, 1934


WORLD DOMINATION


With Russia down the money changers now had control of every major national economy. Like a steam roller moving and a wolf gathering its pack, there was only one thing left to do and that was to go global. The first attempt was the proposal at the Paris Peace Conference after WWI to set up the League of Nations. Old habits die hard, and even what they called 'the war to end all wars' was not enough to convince nations to dissolve their boundaries. The League died.

If politicians really were being controlled, you would think at least one would break ranks and cry out against it. Many did. One was no less than former New York City Mayor John Haylan

"These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government....

The warning of Theodore Roosevelt has much timeliness today, for the real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over City, State, and nation... It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers, and every agency created for the public protection...

To depart from mere generalisations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard Oil interest and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes.

They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organisations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business...

These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of newspapers and magazines in this country."
John Hylan, Mayor of New York 1927, 1

These warnings fell on deaf ears, drowned out by the music and excitement of the roaring 20's. People don't tend to complain much in times of prosperity, so the money changers used this boom time they had created to defuse any complaints about their growing control.


1. (Former New York City Mayor John Haylan speaking in Chicago and quoted in the March 27, 1927, New York Times)


DEPRESSION IN 1929


Stack in front of you the biographies of all the Wall Street giants, J.P. Morgan, Joe F. Kennedy, J.D Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch, and you'll find they all marvel at how they got out of the stock market and put their assets in gold just before the crash.

Non mention a secret directive, since revealed, sent by the father of the Federal Reserve, Paul Warburg, warning of the coming collapse and depression.

With control of the press and the education system, few Americans are aware that the Fed caused the depression. It is however a well known fact among leading top economists.

"The Federal Reserve definitely caused the Great depression by contracting the amount of currency in circulation by one-third from 1929 to 1933."
Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize winning economist

"It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all."
Rep. Louis T.McFadden (D-PA)

"I think it can hardly be disputed that the statesmen and financiers of Europe are ready to take almost any means to re-acquire rapidly the gold stock which Europe lost to America as the result of World War I."
Rep. Louis T.McFadden (D-PA)

40 billion dollars somehow vanished in the crash.

It didn't really vanish, it simply shifted into the hands of the money changers. This is how Joe Kennedy went from having 4 million dollars in 1929 to having over 100 million in 1935.

During this time the Fed caused a 33% reduction of the money supply, causing deeper depression.


HOW THE FED CREATES MONEY


We've been talking about how the privately owned Federal Reserve can produce money from thin air. Here's how it's done.

1. The purchase of bonds is approved by the Federal Open Market Committee.

2. The Fed buys the bonds which it pays for with electronic credits made to the sellers bank. These credits are based on nothing.

3. The receiving banks then use these credits as reserves from which they can loan out ten times the amount.

To reduce the amount of money in the economy they simply reverse the process.

The Fed sells bonds to the public and money is drawn from the purchasers bank to pay for them.

Each million withdrawn lowers the banks ability to loan by 10 million.

The Federal bank in this way has overall control of the US money supply, as each country's central bank does in the same way. The bankers, through the magic of fractional reserve banking have been delegated the right to create 90% of the money supply. This control makes a mockery of any elected government. It places so called leaders behind a toy steering wheel, like the plastic ones, set up to amuse small children.

Or as Rep.Charles Lindbergh father of famous aviator Lucky Lindy puts it when commenting on the Federal Reserve Act:

"This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalised.

The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill."
Rep. Charles Lindbergh (R-MN)

Or as Woodrow Wilson put it:

"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled governments in the civilised world - no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by... a vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organised, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson

In order to clearly establish that this is not a conspiracy theory, but is actually how things are controlled, we further quote Charles Lindbergh. From the house of representatives, Lindbergh was well placed to see exactly what was happening back then and continues to happen today.

"To cause high prices all the federal reserve board will do will be to lower the re-discount rate..., producing an expansion of credit and a rising stock market; then when... business men are adjusted to these conditions, it can check... prosperity in mid-career by arbitrarily raising the rate of interest.

It can cause the pendulum of a rising and falling market to swing gently back and forth by slight changes in the discount rate, or cause violent fluctuations by greater rate variation, and in either case it will possess inside information as to financial conditions and advance knowledge of the coming change, either up or down.

This is the strangest, most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privilege class by any Government that ever existed.

The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money.

They know in advance when to create panics to their advantage. They also know when to stop panic. Inflation and deflation work equally well for them when they control finance..."
Rep. Charles Lindbergh (R-MN)


ADOLF'S BANKERS


Most all will be aware of Hitler's rise to power. What they probably don't know is that he was almost completely financed by money drawn from the privately owned American Federal Reserve.

"After WWI, Germany fell into the hands of the international bankers. Those bankers bought her and they now own her, lock, stock, and barrel. They have purchased her industries, they have mortgages on her soil, they control her production, they control all her public utilities.

The international German bankers have subsidised the present Government of Germany and they have also supplied every dollar of the money Adolph Hitler has used in his lavish campaign to build up threat to the government of Bruening.

When Bruening fails to obey the orders of the German International Bankers, Hitler is brought forth to scare the Germans into submission...

Through the Federal Reserve Board over $30 billion of American money has been pumped into Germany. You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany...

Modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board. The Federal Reserve Board has pumped so many billions of dollars into Germany that they dare not name the total."
Congressman Louis T.McFadden (D-PA) who served twelve years as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency.


FORT KNOX


In 1933 new President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed a bill forcing all the American people, to hand over all their gold at base rate. With the exception of rare coins. He disowned himself from the bill claiming to not have read it and his secretary of the treasury claimed this was "what the experts wanted".

Bought at bargain basement price with money produced from nothing by the Federal Reserve, the gold was melted down and stacked in the newly built bullion depository called Fort Knox. Once collected in 1935 the price of gold was raised from $20.66 up to $35 per ounce, but only non American gold qualified to be sold. This meant those who had avoided the crash by investing in gold they had shipped to London could now nearly double their money while the rest of America starved.

But that's not all folks. By the end of WWII Fort Knox did hold 70% of the world's gold, but over the years it was sold off to the European money changers while a public audit of Fort Knox reserves was repeatedly denied.

Rumours spread about missing gold.

"Allegations of missing gold from our Fort Knox vaults are being widely discussed in European circles. But what is puzzling is that the Administration is not hastening to demonstrate conclusively that there is no cause for concern over our gold treasure - if indeed it is in a position to do so."
Edith Roosevelt

Finally in 1981 President Ronald Reagan was convinced to have a look into Fort Knox with a view to re-introducing the Gold Standard. He appointed a group called The Gold Commission. They found that the US Treasury owned no gold at all.

All the Fort Knox gold remaining is now being held as collateral by the Federal Reserve against the national debt. Using credits made from nothing. The Fed had robbed the largest treasure of gold on earth.


WORLD WAR II (1939-1945)


World War II saw the US debt increased by 598%, while Japan's debt went up by 1,348%, with France up by 583% and Canada up by 417%.

When you hear this, what is your first impression? Do you automatically think this is bad or this is good? Most of us feel a well programmed sense of desperation when we hear figures like this, but remember, to the money changers, this is music to their ears.

With the hot war over, the cold war began, the arms race causing more and more borrowing. Now the money changers could really concentrate on global domination.

Step one, the European Monetary Union and NAFTA.

Step two, centralise the global economy via the World Bank, the IMF and GATT (now the WTO).


THE WORLD CENTRAL BANK (1948 - Present)


In Washington, the headquarters of both the World Bank and the IMF (International Monetary Fund) face each other on the same street. What are these organisations, and who controls them?

To find out we need to look back to just after WWI. At this point the money changers were attempting to consolidate the central banks under the guise of peacemaking. To stop future wars they put forward the formation of a world central bank named the Bank of International Settlements, a world court called the World Court in the Hague, and a world executive for legislation called the League of Nations.

In his 1966 book entitled Tragedy and Hope, president Clinton's mentor Carroll Quigley writes about this.

"The powers of financial capitalism had [a] far-reaching [plan], nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.

This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank... Sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
Carroll Quigley, Professor, Georgetown University

They got 2 out of 3. The league of nations failed largely owing to the suspicions of the people and while opposition concentrated on this, the other two proposals snuck their way through.

It would take another war to wear the public resistance down. Wall street invested heavily to rebuild Germany, as the Chase bank had propped up the Russian revolution.

Now the Chase merged with the Warburg's Manhattan Bank to form the Chase Manhattan which would later merge with the Chemical Bank to become the largest bank on Wall Street.

In 1944 the US approved its full participation in the IMF and the World Bank. By 1945 the second League of Nations was approved under the new name 'The United Nations'. The war had dissolved all opposition. The methods used in the National Banking Act of 1864 and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 were now simply used on a Global scale.

The Federal Reserve Act allowing the creation of Federal Reserve notes is mirrored by the IMF's authority to produce money called Special Drawing Rights (SDR's). It is estimated the IMF has produced $30 billion dollars worth of SDR's so far. In the United States SDR's are already accepted as legal money, and all other member nations are being pressured to follow suit. With SDR's being partially backed by gold, a world gold standard is sneaking its way in through the back door, which comes with no objection from the money changers who now hold two-thirds of the worlds gold and can use this to structure the worlds economy to their further advantage.

We have gone from the goldsmith's fraud being reproduced on a national scale through the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve, to a Global level with the IMF and the World Bank. Unless we together stop giving these exchange units their power by our collective faith in them, the future will probably see the Intergalactic Bank and the Federation of Planets Reserve set up in much the same way.

This radical transfer of power has taken place with absolutely no mandate from the people.

Nations borrow Special Drawing Right from the International Monetary Fund in order to pay interest on their mounting debts. With these SDR's produced at no cost, the IMF charges more interest. This contrary to bold claims does not alleviate poverty or further any development. It just creates a steady flow of wealth from borrowing nations to the money changers who now control the IMF and the World Bank.

The permanent debt of Third World Countries is constantly being increased to provide temporary relief from the poverty being caused by previous borrowing.

These repayments already exceed the amount of new loans. By 1992 Africa's debt had reached $290 billion dollars, which is two and a half times greater than it was in 1980. A noble attempt to repay it has caused increased infant mortality and unemployment, plus deteriorating schools, and general health and welfare problems.

As world resources continue to be sucked into this insatiable black hole of greed, if allowed to continue the entire world will face a simular fate.

As one prominent Brazilian politician, Luis Ignacio Silva,ðput it.

"Without being radical or overly bold, I will tell you that the Third World War has already started - a silent war, not for that reason any the less sinister. This war is tearing down Brazil, Latin America and practically all the Third World. Instead of soldiers dying there are children, instead of millions of wounded there are millions of unemployed; instead of destruction of bridges there is the tearing down of factories, schools, hospitals, and entire economies . . . It is a war by the United States against the Latin American continent and the Third World. It is a war over the foreign debt, one which has as its main weapon interest, a weapon more deadly than the atom bomb, more shattering than a laser beam . ."1

If a group or organisation had used its hard earned money to help these developing nations, then we might sympathise that there should be a real effort to repay these loans. But the money used was created from fractional reserve banking. The money loaned to the Third World came from the 90% the banks allow themselves to loan on the 10% they actually held. It didn't exist, it was created from nothing, and now people are suffering and dying in an effort to pay it back.

This has gone beyond clever financing, it's whole sale murder and it's time we stopped it. We can!

1. Luis Ignacio Silva, at the Havana Debt Conference in August 1985, quoted by Susan George, A Fate Worse Than Death p 238

 

[SirSmokeallot]

^ Secret societies are not so secret I suppose. Well....what is one to do? It's a dirty...unethical...fucked up world. Realizing the chains is one thing...talking about them is one thing...but where's the solutions?

People would be lost...if someone didn't create a story for them..and tell them what they need to do. That's the reality. Is knowing all this information make anyone feel better? Just wonder...interesting good reads..mind candy

Some old families own the world. You are born into slavery. You have worked for the slavers all your life. You know nothing else. Make the best out of it

We are the first generation that has a chance of breaking free from their control. The British Crown and the other Western banking families are losing influence all around the world. They are in a struggle to control the world - but it hasn't been achieved yet.

After being humiliated by the West China is slowly slipping out of their grip, and Russia is slowly getting back onto their feet as well. Russia and China do not trust each other in the Great Game any more than they trust the Crown, however with their rising power on the world stage China and Russia are frantically trying to gain control over food and energy supplies before the European/US banking and royal families corner the entire world's commodity market.

Why do you think China and Russia are backing Syria and Iran so much? Because they know that if things carry on as they are the Crown will continue to control most of the world's energy supply and they will be forced to carry on selling us their valuable resources (Russia) or making our cheap toys (China).

So not only is the Western world (which is essentially controlled through the British Crown without any of us suckers knowing it) facing trouble in the Middle East, Africa and South America but at the same time, arguably the greatest invention in all of human history (the Internet) is threatening to endenger their complete control of our hearths and minds, as well as possibly enabling a large enough group of people to understand what is happening for things to change. They are shitting themselves my friends.

We are lucky because we have grown up in a time of free Internet. You really think that in 10-20 years time it's going to be as easy as it is now to download pirated movies and stuff? No way man. They're not just cracking down on that. They have entire skyscrapers filled with 'agents' that do nothing else but spread disinformation over the Internet, protecting their lies (the truth of 9/11 for example is heavily protected by the CIA), and trying to influence the Internet because they understand that the current Internet is going to become the Single Human Consciousness - it is our collective brain and it will bring humanity onto the next stage of evolution. Just like any other technology is has great potential for both good and bad and whilst being so incredibly amazing for our education and our spiritual awakening it is also the greatest tool of mass media mind control ever conceived and if we are not careful they will slowly take control of it just like they gained control over TV, newspapers, movies and books.

Yes we can't change anything. But it is good to know what is really going on.

 

[Growcephus]

The reason this is a media threat to cannabis is because Murdoch is very anti-cannabis. Why? because he has large interests in big Pharma. His son James Murdoch even sits on board of GSK, manufacturer of Pandemrix.

I would like to see Murdoch, and EVERY other motherfucker out there that mass markets LIES as "truth", tied to the outside of a Saturn-V rocket and launched toward the sun.

 

[THE PABLOS]

We are the first generation that has a chance of breaking free from their control. The British Crown and the other Western banking families are losing influence all around the world. They are in a struggle to control the world - but it hasn't been achieved yet.

After being humiliated by the West China is slowly slipping out of their grip, and Russia is slowly getting back onto their feet as well. Russia and China do not trust each other in the Great Game any more than they trust the Crown, however with their rising power on the world stage China and Russia are frantically trying to gain control over food and energy supplies before the European/US banking and royal families corner the entire world's commodity market.

Why do you think China and Russia are backing Syria and Iran so much? Because they know that if things carry on as they are the Crown will continue to control most of the world's energy supply and they will be forced to carry on selling us their valuable resources (Russia) or making our cheap toys (China).

So not only is the Western world (which is essentially controlled through the British Crown without any of us suckers knowing it) facing trouble in the Middle East, Africa and South America but at the same time, arguably the greatest invention in all of human history (the Internet) is threatening to endenger their complete control of our hearths and minds, as well as possibly enabling a large enough group of people to understand what is happening for things to change. They are shitting themselves my friends.

We are lucky because we have grown up in a time of free Internet. You really think that in 10-20 years time it's going to be as easy as it is now to download pirated movies and stuff? No way man. They're not just cracking down on that. They have entire skyscrapers filled with 'agents' that do nothing else but spread disinformation over the Internet, protecting their lies (the truth of 9/11 for example is heavily protected by the CIA), and trying to influence the Internet because they understand that the current Internet is going to become the Single Human Consciousness - it is our collective brain and it will bring humanity onto the next stage of evolution. Just like any other technology is has great potential for both good and bad and whilst being so incredibly amazing for our education and our spiritual awakening it is also the greatest tool of mass media mind control ever conceived and if we are not careful they will slowly take control of it just like they gained control over TV, newspapers, movies and books.

Yes we can't change anything. But it is good to know what is really going on.

But see...that's the thing. We don't really know any of it is going on. The internet is a great manipulator. It's not the greatest invention ever...and it's in no way...leading to a single human consciousness. Even if it was...I'd not want to be a part of such a thing. Not a lot of good will come out of collectivist vision.

Our evolution or devolution...is an individual thing. We are becoming more and more synthetic...that I'll say. Synthetic foods and drugs...and constant exposure to electronic signals in our atmosphere. Being that we were originally designed as organic life forms..and now...not so much...I'd not worry what "they" are doing...as much as...what "I" am doing. Back to mud...start again...this electronic revolution is not the path

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^We know the crown is still controlling everything because of historical fact. This information has been around long before the internet. Not only that you can follow the money trail. all interest paid leads back to the banking cartels, and it always has. They are the ones who made the interest loan system and fiat currencies in the first place.

 

[SirSmokeallot]

You raise interesting points The Pablos.

I agree with him and you. We are creatures of nature, a part of this planet and the healthiest and best way for us to live is with nature, as hunter gatherers in unison with God, Gai, Allah, the Earth Spirit, The Universe, or whatever you wish to call 'it'. In our current society and way of life, in this corporate greedy world, we cannot become enlightened, or feel close to God, in my belief. We are not in a happy stage of human development at the moment.

Just like when man first started farming, we advanced, but it did not mean it was good for man. Farming only one or two types of grass meant that man did not have enough nutrients in his diet, as well as getting tooth decay for starchy grasses, and bone diseases from grinding up grasses on stones. The first farmers from the Mesopotamia region died 40 years younger than hunter gatherers and that begs the question - why did we ever carry on on our current trajectory? Today we are still in transition and whether (as a creature designed to live like a hunter gatherer) we will ever be completely happy in the modern system I do not know.

I believe that as we become more advanced there will (if we do not destroy ourselves before hand) be two cultures in the world.

1. The Red. Real Communism, Mankind is reliant on robots for all manual labour and humanity will live in a modern Utopia where man is free from manual work and can spend his time pursuing whatever he wants (be it art, sport, science, philosophy, smoking pot or playing videogames).

2. Green. A group of hunter gatherers that live in nature reserves around the world.

I think that the second group will be healthier and happier people.

 

[THE PABLOS]

^We know the crown is still controlling everything because of historical fact. This information has been around long before the internet. Not only that you can follow the money trail. all interest paid leads back to the banking cartels, and it always has. They are the ones who made the interest loan system and fiat currencies in the first place.

Who wrote the history? Names...families..people existed. That's what you have. Incidents...wars...causes are manipulations. They can be shown one way...or several different ways. There is no way of proving one truth much beyond the next...if you didn't write the history. How on earth...are you...following a money trail? You have no way of following such things. You can read about them..but again...who writes what you read?

And even so. So now we know they control the world. So? Now what? What are we going to break free of...and into what situation then? Another ruthless family/conglomerate will just take the reins again. Why? Because they are ruthless enough....arrogant enough to do it. There will never be a world...where these sort of personalities do not exist. Check the history.

Does knowing the "truth" make you any happier? Do you feel like you are suffering less because of knowing...this truth? Seeking happiness is closer to truth....than anything you will find in the ugly underbelly of the world. For some...it's impossible

I'm not being harsh...but I've read about this sort of stuff...and take it with more than a grain of salt. There is power...and there are people. Some people need to follow...some need to lead. can't lose sleep over it.

 

[SirSmokeallot]

But see...that's the thing. We don't really know any of it is going on. The internet is a great manipulator. It's not the greatest invention ever...and it's in no way...leading to a single human consciousness. Even if it was...I'd not want to be a part of such a thing. Not a lot of good will come out of collectivist vision.

Our evolution or devolution...is an individual thing. We are becoming more and more synthetic...that I'll say. Synthetic foods and drugs...and constant exposure to electronic signals in our atmosphere. Being that we were originally designed as organic life forms..and now...not so much...I'd not worry what "they" are doing...as much as...what "I" am doing. Back to mud...start again...this electronic revolution is not the path

We are becoming closer and closer joined as a race because of the Internet. Our ideas and beliefs are becoming diffused. Look at songs like Gangnam Style for evidence. All over the world, from China to Canada, from Britain to Peru we are connected, instantaneously, to share ideas and thoughts, knowledge, systems, beliefs, even share our hearts or our sexual organs. it is incredible and if you cannot see that I am amazed.

People in Iran think the same as people in China and people in Australia. We are becoming One. Humanity birthed a million million tribes. Now, today, in front of our eyes the million million tribes has become 200 or so tribes, and now that 200 or so tribes is becoming 1 tribe. If the internet wasn't becoming the single consciousness then terms such as 'viral' wouldn't exist.

My dad believes strongly against technology such as you. In fact he has designed every aspect of a whole city that would be built completely by man and animal power, with underground cool rooms to store food, indoor hot water plumbing, public parks and spaces, hotels, libraries, houses, schools. Everything without any plastics, electricity, or any material that does not come from the local environment.

He has spent years in England and Europe studying Victorian era technologies for natural, organic and locally produceable solutions to tooth-paste, detergent, shampoo, and a million other things. Anyone would be welcome and there would be work, food, shelter, medical care, education and so on for anyone who wishes to join to collective. We just need a country to give us 50 or so square miles of land and protect us by law from any form of contamination, as well as a team of professionals that are willing to dedicate their lives to a greater cause. He calls it the Green City and he has full architectural side plans and business plans written up. We think it will draw in millions in tourism as well as thousands and thousands of people such as yourself who wish to go back to nature where we belong.

And yes, he does smoke weed, if you wondered.

 

[THE PABLOS]

You raise interesting points The Pablos.

I agree with him and you. We are creatures of nature, a part of this planet and the healthiest and best way for us to live is with nature, as hunter gatherers in unison with God, Gai, Allah, the Earth Spirit, The Universe, or whatever you wish to call 'it'. In our current society and way of life, in this corporate greedy world, we cannot become enlightened, or feel close to God, in my belief. We are not in a happy stage of human development at the moment.

Just like when man first started farming, we advanced, but it did not mean it was good for man. Farming only one or two types of grass meant that man did not have enough nutrients in his diet, as well as getting tooth decay for starchy grasses, and bone diseases from grinding up grasses on stones. The first farmers from the Mesopotamia region died 40 years younger than hunter gatherers and that begs the question - why did we ever carry on on our current trajectory? Today we are still in transition and whether (as a creature designed to live like a hunter gatherer) we will ever be completely happy in the modern system I do not know.

I believe that as we become more advanced there will (if we do not destroy ourselves before hand) be two cultures in the world.

1. The Red. Real Communism, Mankind is reliant on robots for all manual labour and humanity will live in a modern Utopia where man is free from manual work and can spend his time pursuing whatever he wants (be it art, sport, science, philosophy, smoking pot or playing videogames).

2. Green. A group of hunter gatherers that live in nature reserves around the world.

I think that the second group will be healthier and happier people.

Guess all I'm saying is: all the flowing information must be kept in some sort of context. Understand that we are living in different realities...now brought together..and electronically enhanced.

This mash of electronic collectivism...is now the norm...as is the eating of engineered food...and engineered synthetic drugs. TV and the internet...being the electronic drones that they are...are now in our pockets...and in about every home. The common person walks around eyes glued to a screen...fingers tapping out messages...for what?

I tried out FaceBook....are you fucking kidding me? Is that leading to a single human conscience? I sure hope not.

anyway...I'm funning...just striking up conversation. I can see...some day...I'll totally drop out of this electronic revolution. It's fun for now..but like FaceBook demonstrated to me...I don't need all this information...or even care about it. I don't believe in it much past...its entertainment value.

I don't know what the fuck is going on...I really don't

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^The original sources are quoted in the History of Money article. One was even Napoleon Bonaparte. The quotes are recorded accurately as they were said and written in multiple sources through out history. Historians have confirmed these things by studying the original documents.

Truly, educated masses that understand the differences that exist in different forms of government can form a real anarchy. An anarchy is not chaos. anarchy is a government that not derived from divine right or force. A true anarchy can not be formed with war or aggression. Only understanding and civility. Ideally America could be a democratic anarchy if the people controlled the currency, and not a private bank that is systematically crashing the dollar with quantitative easing.

We are told the U.S.A. is a representative democracy. It is not. The U.S.A. is just one country in a Plutonomy. This is a new word created literally by the hierarchy of the Banking Cartels. A plutonomy is a banking plutocracy set up like a feudal system. Very much like the corporatism of Italy in Mussolini's time.

Yes knowing the truth makes me much happier because I dont buy into the bullshit and fear propaganda; which means I spend my life doing what I want and not trying to stay on some b.s. track that this brain washed society would view as "acceptable." I may not be able to change how things work, but with this knowledge I can at least see past the vale and help others do the same.

 

[THE PABLOS]

^The original sources are quoted in the History of Money article. One was even Napoleon Bonaparte. They are quotes said and written by those people.

Truly, educated masses that understand the differences that exist in forms of government can form a real anarchy. An anarchy is not chaos. a government not derived from divine right or force. Ideally America could be a democratic anarchy if the people controlled the currency, and not a private bank that is systematically crashing the dollar with quantitative easing.

Yes knowing the truth makes me much happier because I dont buy into the bullshit and fear propaganda; which means I spend my life doing what I want and not trying to stay on some b.s. track that this brain washed society would view as "acceptable." I may not be able to change how things work, but with this knowledge I can at least see past the vale and help others do the same.

More power to you Hash...my friend. As long as it makes you happy. Agree...don't buy into the bullshit...but the bullshit comes from all kinds of directions. I gave up reading history books for the most part....and don't think I could honestly...enlighten anyone else to my reality.

the world is a reservation..people are farmed for profit...it has been going on my whole life. I see its pitfalls...and avoid them...accordingly. Not disgusted...not disturbed...not unhappy...objective and calculating

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^right. That is why it makes me happy to know these things. I can avoid the pitfalls. like entrusting all my wealth to a stock market based on a currency that is based on thin air. I can avoid listening to the government when they tell me to take Chons disease medication that has now been proven to cause death through massive bowl rupture. Instead I grow a medicine that works and is safe. I then see past the fear propaganda and spread that medicine to other in need to help stop things like cancer and organ rejection. I have no formal education and have cured as much cancer as some doctors. thanks to others like Grey wolf that teaches us how to make the holy anointing oil. If I had no knowledge to not buy into fear propaganda I would be to scarred to make the oil. Reading Overgrow and icmag over the years has empowered me.

 

[dddaver]

It wasn't that long ago when it was against the law to own more than one type of media, eg. a newspaper and also a TV station. That rule was enforced and existed to protect the citizens from exactly the type of thing Murdock has done. He circumvented, bought, and connived, all at the expense of the US citizens.

I have long distrusted that creep. Long before that wire tapping bullshit in Britain that bit him in the ass. And YOU KNOW he was complicit and only offered up that bitch CEO to take some heat off. I'm sure she was amply compensated.

He only got American citizenship to further his own agenda. He has no love nor true allegiance to the ideas of liberty and freedom we Americans are really about.

This money buys anything bullshit needs to stopped and that asshole has just gone way too far. There has always been industrial giants and mega rich fuckers in US history but it has come to a point where HE is actually become a specific threat to liberty and freedom that far outweighs any injustice of any other mogul in history. I hate that fucker.

I'm warmed seeing others are as aware of this crooked bastard as I am. I agree, he is a threat and MUST be stopped cold, in fact it has gone too far already. But it all needs to stop, NOW. The damage done can be dealt with. But letting that lieing, conniving, super-villain continue his empire building needs to stop.

 

[SirSmokeallot]

Who wrote the history? Names...families..people existed. That's what you have. Incidents...wars...causes are manipulations. They can be shown one way...or several different ways. There is no way of proving one truth much beyond the next...if you didn't write the history. How on earth...are you...following a money trail? You have no way of following such things. You can read about them..but again...who writes what you read?

And even so. So now we know they control the world. So? Now what? What are we going to break free of...and into what situation then? Another ruthless family/conglomerate will just take the reins again. Why? Because they are ruthless enough....arrogant enough to do it. There will never be a world...where these sort of personalities do not exist. Check the history.

Does knowing the "truth" make you any happier? Do you feel like you are suffering less because of knowing...this truth? Seeking happiness is closer to truth....than anything you will find in the ugly underbelly of the world. For some...it's impossible

I'm not being harsh...but I've read about this sort of stuff...and take it with more than a grain of salt. There is power...and there are people. Some people need to follow...some need to lead. can't lose sleep over it.

You speak much wisdom my friend.

On one hand I can agree that time is valuable and one can argue that it would be better to invest your time in laughing and being in ignorant merriment than spend hours upon hours reading through history books for no avail. On the other, one can argue it is a crime against humanity to turn a blind eye when you have the capacity to enlighten and awaken people with your knowledge.

I must say that around 90% of the time I would prefer to watch a comedy movie, but it just so happens that tonight I have decided to share some of what I have been taught by wise people to you and others, and as I believe everything happens for a reason I am happy to live in the moment and learn what I can from you intelligent and knowledge members of these boards.

 

[THE PABLOS]

You speak much wisdom my friend.

On one hand I can agree that time is valuable and one can argue that it would be better to invest your time in laughing and being in ignorant merriment than spend hours upon hours reading through history books for no avail. On the other, one can argue it is a crime against humanity to turn a blind eye when you have the capacity to enlighten and awaken people with your knowledge.

I must say that around 90% of the time I would prefer to watch a comedy movie, but it just so happens that tonight I have decided to share some of what I have been taught by wise people to you and others, and as I believe everything happens for a reason I am happy to live in the moment and learn what I can from you intelligent and knowledge members of these boards.

I know you dudes believe in what you are saying..but that does not make your information accurate, enlightening, or true. It is relaying information that you have gathered...from sources that may not be suppling accurate, enlightening, or true information themselves.

I've read a biography on the Krupp family...the cannon makers..another old family purported to be puppet masters. I can relay that information to you...but you still would need to digest that information..and judge for yourself whether what I was relaying was credible. Because it is in print...in an old book...doesn't make it accurate.

A quick google search relays all the information (posted in this thread) on the Rothschilds....and I've read all that stuff in the past. My opinion...is that its way too construed...mixing some historic "facts" with a lot of speculation. After reading it...I found I was entertained. Just like watching squatch hunters on TV. It's entertainment.

Do I believe they are a rich and powerful family? Yup. Do I believe they are out there plotting behind the crown? Maybe. Does it really affect my life? Not really. Do I want to see them and their kind taken out of wealth and power? Would it solve anything? Not really.

People don't care...as a whole. Feed them...give them a decent living..decent housing...let them buy the toys you provide...let them use words like "freedom" and tax the fuck out of them. Do this from birth to death...and you have a farm....full circle agriculture...never ending supply of income

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

WATCH THIS!

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/psywar/

^PsyWar

This film explores the evolution of propaganda and public relations in the United States, with an emphasis on the elitist theory of democracy and the relationship between war, propaganda and class.

Includes original interviews with a number of dissident scholars including Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Peter Phillips (Project Censored), John Stauber (PR Watch), Christopher Simpson (The Science of Coercion) and others.

A deep, richly illustrated study of the nature and history of propaganda, featuring some of the world’s most insightful critics, Psywar exposes the propaganda system, providing crucial background and insight into the control of information and thought.

 

[tenthirty]

Carl Sagan quote: "You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe."

 

[THE PABLOS]

Beliefs are based in emotional involvement...more than anything else imo

 

[armedoldhippy]

Why can't one of these nutters who goes mental with a gun, ever do it in the vicinity of these wankers......

you could not get close enough to weasels like this with a gun. they have armed guards, you know. it will take a clear-headed righteous individual willing to "take one for the team", with big brass balls, & a good plan. he/she is out there, somewhere...waiting...waiting........

 

[SirSmokeallot]

You'd be surprised. The most powerful people in the world aren't known by the general public. Ask someone who the Rothschilds are, and they simply will not know. Even educated or well read people I know because I have asked surprisingly intelligent people and they have no idea! They are one of the families that control the world's resources and finances, with potentially trillions in underground, unaudited vaults dating back to the 1800s. They have been accumulating wealth and keep it within the family (by interbreeding, as do the British Royal Family) for centuries! They openly controlled and set world gold prices in London, in their own private property until a few years ago. They are frantically covering up any remnants of their worldwide financial power as they know that with the Internet, openly setting world gold prices twice a day would and other anomalies will put questions marks all over their self proclaimed story about losing influence and wealth recently. Bull crap.

Anyway my point is that go on YouTube and type in Rothschilds, there are a couple of videos by guys and girls confronting Jacob Rothschild outside a theatre with no guards or anyone at all to protect him. The point he knows so few people know him and that the Rothschilds are so elusive that they don't even need to worry about protection, as can be seen in a few YouTube videos. I am sure that that will change as they continue to garner more and more attention online.

Pabloas it doesn't take a brain surgeon to deduce that of course there are families that have accumulated wealth since the dawn of modern international banking (which was started by the Rothschilds of course). If you have wealth and loan that wealth with interest you will accumulate more and more wealth until all the gold in the world is yours. This is precisely why it is illegal to charge interest (usury) in the Torah, Bible and Koran.

The Rothschilds, The British Royal Family, and other families have been building on their wealth for centuries, and as they have interbred following strict codes and regulations set by their founders the wealth doesn't get dissipated by descendants inheriting wealth - therefore mathematically their wealth must have only increased.

And as it is a known fact that in the 1800s the Rothschilds were the wealthiest family in the whole World, and as their business empire has only got larger (with privately owned businesses that are all top in the world ranging from mining, art, construction, oil, gas, banking, wine and hundreds more) why anyone would really think that they have grown LESS powerful in the past 100 years, well I am clueless why anyone would think that and well I beg to differ.

Look at it like this, if you were that rich would you want the world to know that under your dozens of European palaces (some of the grandest, most beautiful buildings in Europe may I add with thousands of acres of land) are vaults stuffed with billions wouldn't you take steps to conceal your immense wealth? OK maybe you personally wouldn't, but they have been brought up in a family that does, and they are taught morals and codes that are different to use - why else would they consider interbreeding ok?

The way I see it, unless someone can prove that the British Royal Family, the Rothschilds, or others actually HAVE lost influence and power over the last 200 years, then I will accept that this is all bullshit. But I have scoured for proof for their waning power, but there is none that isn't obvious propaganda from the horse's own mouth. The Crown still, to this day, own 1/6 of the whole world land mass. By law. The Queen is a Trillionaire from her land ownership in Australia alone (don't forget she still owns Canada, UK and the whole Commonwealth, legally) however she isn't even in the top 10 of world's richest. The world's richest people ARE NOT KNOWN to us.

Yes people, it is the Crown, it is the Rothschilds, and it is other European royals who have teamed up with the Crown. They control the news, and they are trying to gain control over the Internet.