v2 'dream system' DIY and diary

[Jbonez]

This is why I only have clientele that has everything to lose, I only sell to family dudes with kids and shit..

Wanna fuck me? You will have bigger problems, I promise.. lol...

Quit fuckin with lowlifes, pick a high end crowd..

And only fuck with your own kind.. I dont mean race, I mean your own kind, as in dudes with character...


Sucks man, but you held your own, the wisdom from this experience cant be purchased..

 

[GMax]

this dude is a connection I made in my grow town while I was sill living there .. he has never been to my house and I pretty sure he doesn't know where I live but if he really tried it might not be that hard.. and to keep up appearances all the people from there think I still live there so no one goes and fucks with my house when I am not there..

that is what I am most scared of at this point, not bc getting a gun in my face again but more if they went to my house and started pulling plants or some shit and loading them up and making my neighborhood stink and sending cops my way.. to be honest I am a grower and I don't understand how you can rob a grower at his house.. I mean you can take all his dried bud if he has any or you can hope that you showed up at harvest time and then what..? hold them at gunpoint while you harvest all the weed.. fuck that if it were me I would hold the grower at gunpoint and make them harvest the bud, that will solve my trimming problem lol jk or what are you gonna do, walk out the front door with some pot plants..?

anyways I am in a sort of enemies closer situation now.. the whole take all his shit was his idea and he said it after I made the snitch remark and he seemed to realize what he had done.. I had already beaten him up until I was too tired and checked him for money which he had none of.. so I was about to leave empty handed.. when we got back to his house his safe was empty and left open like someone just cleared it out so his story seemed to check out .. he even helped me load up all his shit and he promised he would pay back every penny but if he doesn't then I will keep his stuff.. he got some retro jordans that are pretty tight.. the tv is only 32'' but it a flatscreen a xbox and ps3 and few games for each, but I already have both anyways.. the reason that they didn't take that shit to pay off his debt because they sell hard and soft in the hood and they got fiends who will trade them all that shit.. haven't you every noticed that all hard drug dealers have way too many electronics etc... and his clothes wouldn't have fit either of him.. and they were specifically thirsty for SB

for now I kinda have to play it cool but at the same time I cant act like I got took for a hp and don't care.. I kinda have to act super upset about it or it says 2 things: that I am growing this shit, or I am ballin come back and get me again.. if homey does come through to pay me back the 2300 then I will have to give him his stuff back or I may start more drama which I definitely cant have at the grow.. when those thugs run out of bud which they will.. and they want more which they will .. and they cant get it cause I am clearly not gonna give it to him.. they may have to resort to finding other ways.. ie hitting my grow... if they can find it or don't already know where it is.. bout to buy two big ass dogs or at least take a picture with some and post it on fb and pretend they are mine so homey sees it

the problem is in my area I live right outside a mini Detroit-ish town that is just a really bad and ghetto city in general.. most of the weed is imported and controlled by gangs and most dro arrives in brick fashion.. so the sb really stands out and it stands out more than other great home grown dro because it is extra dense and people from the city think that means kush and it is sought after for some reason.. when you have what everyone wants there is a target on your back..

I am putting the house hunt in full gear either way.. even if I have to rent another acceptable I am trying to find a new one buy the end of the month.. not put in any more crops and finish the ones that I have currently which will take about three more weeks.. then have 2wks maximum of down time getting restarted.. then I may move back to my old grow and live there for a few more months just normal and starting having people over and in the basement in like a "see I was never growin weed the whole time" and give me plently of time the house back to normal and clean... the next grow house I wont everl ive in so no one will ever know about


and fhc I thought we were homies I am disappointed if you don't want me in your thread don't come in mine to tell me my post is too long I thought you were joking and I actually laughed at the Tijuana joke but then I got your message so quit being a dick.. this is called v2 DIY and diary so if I wanna write a novel I will and if no one wants to read it than there are pics it doesn't hurt my feelings.. if dhf told me I could double my yield by throwing my plants off a bridge I probably would (sarcastic but you get the point).. but when it came to aero advice yours would have more validity than his in a way from your experience.. so I guess who am I t be giving advice huh with my 4 bars of reputation..sorry to overstep my boundaries there sir.. when I say "you should" I don't mean mother fucker you better, I literally mean you should because it is a good thing to do..it is still your choice I am not telling you what to do ..damn don't get so butt hurt

cold rez temps will cause slow growth and you are a fucking aero grower.. when have you known us to accept slow growth ??!!

I would rather us be friends but whatever seem to be making more enemies somehow

 

[Anti]

For what it's worth, G - I read that whole post. I'm kinda long-winded myself.

I likes me some readin'.

Glad you aren't dead or in the hospital.

Lots of good advice from everybody, but in the end, you have to live your own life.

Like you, when people try to threaten me, I pretty much call their bluff. Not necessarily the smartest thing to do with a gun pointed at you, but then again, if they wanted to shoot you, I would've shot you while you were kicking HOMEY through the passenger window.

Don't trust HOMEY anymore, though. If his idea was "I know I owe you guys, but why don't we fuck my friend G over?" then he ain't a homie. Fer realz.

Be safe!

 

[GMax]

thanks anti and thanks everyone for all the advice thoughts and worries

i have had a night to think on it and i have just decided i am keeping dudes shit and finishing up and moving shop and never speaking to him again.. but i am not as prepared for this as i should be.. i am basically at square one with the house hunt meaning i have no potential places lined up.. i got money, but i cant be shitting around getting started back up because it will go quick on rent/bills on two houses without anything coming in.. i may have to make drastic changes and go back to living with the weed again for a little while.. but even that would suck terribly because it is back to living like a hermit until i can get enough for another place..because i don't want ANYONE to know about the next one

i got a bunch of crops that are gonna be ready to harvest.... four systems in the old room, 3 of which are ready now and one WW which will be done in under three weeks ( another reason i love SB.. if this was anything else i would have to wait another 2weeks or so and in this situation that is not ideal) i am gonna leave all of them up and running and harvest all the systems in the old room all at once a week before i harvest the WW.. dry it and move it.. and harvests the WW and do the same.. at this point i feel that it is safer to have plants with buds on them, than easily stealable dried buds.. but if shits gets too risky i am gonna pull all the old rooms and just toss the WW crop a week or so from harvest

house is priority number one.. i am gonna stop by the grow tonight and change the rez to the WW.. in light of the circumstances i am gonna do things differently this round.. no mid flower flush and no true flush in the end.. just bloom booster nutes tonight and dwindle to the end..the other rooms are already dwindling.. and since i wont have to take more clones etc i would free myself up from grow work.. honestly if i didn't have the moms to take care of i could not go back for another 3 weeks and they would do just fine but i would be out another defoliation and the final hack a week before.. i guess i cant say for sure but how smooth things are going and considering they don't need rez changes anymore.. the float keeps the rez topped and the pump etc works and i am not needed

 

[GMax]

k i am at the grow i arrive safe everything fine i will get to pics and grow stuff in a second..

because of everything going on i am starting the new years tonight at midnight... so there are a few things i want to get off my chest first

Bobble your comment had a deep impact on me because i hold much respect for you and freds seemed to agree so i was double ashamed of myself for letting you both down..but at the same time i feel like if the general agreement is that we give it up and grow more than what are we all doing even growing weed?!! cause in that case we should just get guns and be thieves cause the robbers have it figured out..they let other people put their lives on the line and do all the work and then they just take it from you and it all profit for them.. that's so fucked up and i am joking but you know what i mean


JBonez i appreciate your comment and you are absolutely right..but unfortunately i am of the age where all the people i know that have kids are just starting out as parents and still kind of not gotten used to it enough to get high again or stopped altogether.. i just don't frequent enough places to find 30-40yr old tokers, but back in the day when i was a real young buck and still in high school my fav customers were my friends parents ...nevertheless your well wishes are much appreciated since we have had our differences in the past and i am sincerely pulling for you and look forward to what you do in 2013

there are many others who deserve their own speech and I am sorry but thank you everyone


now i am sorry to have to continue this drama any farther but you all are gonna just have to stand out of the way and let this happen cause it needs to...

bro it is really some little kid playground shit to drop some bombs like that and just run away..ie change the subject... your mad because i appreciated your pump recommendation ?! well fuck me then.. i should have been like thanks for the pump now fuck you..if it was really bothering you then you could have said "look bro that pump only came with a recommendation, not a warranty" and there would have been no hard feelings.. i only ask you cause hey why don't we ask the guy who has the same pump and has been using for a while now..

and obviously you seem to be bugged by me bouncing questions off of you every once in a while at best which i guess really is insane of me to do considering you are the only other aero grower in the vert section.. i thought this was a place for people to learn and other growers to congregate and discuss grow strategies, but i guess i must be using this wonderful site incorrectly

but that is not what it is about is it..this is

I agree with this.. you should put a fish tank heater in the rez to up the temps of the water at least ... then it the cold air temperature wont really matter...I used to use them them in my cloners when it super cold and it will definitely make a difference... it should never really take longer than 10 days to root in aero cloner unless you have a super finicky cut, just saying...and if you plants are slow to root , they may be slow to grow too... better to address it now, cause it should get a little colder outside before it gets warmer again

the only thing out of this that i can possible see you getting offended by is the taking ten days part... but that is just to rienforce that if it is taking that long that it is usually not optimal conditions.. and that's not to say that you don't already know that... the most important thing is that comment is not for just you... your thread gets attention and you may not believe this but some are actually there to learn.. you may not give a fuck what i have to say but there is at least a handful of people that probably will and it not like I am out here giving advice on how to grow in dirt, I leave that to the dirt pros .. but I jump at the chance to be helpful in areas that I actually knowand if someone wanted to build a WW of their own or something I would help them through countless pms every step of the way because that is what this place is for ..if you are really that offended than you are waaay too offended by it at the very least

when mr d said that my plants were overfertilized and to flush and when bobble said to add more nutes, are the mentioned parties masters in our field? yes.. did I take their advice gladly? yes.. did I follow it? no ..but one thing I didn't damn sure do is send them a message like " hey I don't like you telling me what to do..stay out of my thread..ok?" because just like me they are trying to help

and imagine for sec that instead of posting that post in your thread, i read about your whats going on with you and then went into my thread and said "did you know you can put rez heater..blah blah" for one it would have made no sense or had any relevance in my thread bc i am not going through it and for two don't you think that would have been more offensive and insulting to you than originally... for fucks sake...

you may have not liked it but there is more than likely someone out there right now who saw it and is like,"man my aero clones are on 12 days and still no roots, maybe i should check them.......oh yep the pH was off"

i am not mad that you are mad at me for making the comment.. you could have PMed me and said you didn't appreciate it and even been a dick about it and i would have apologized and said your right because i don't want to disrespect anyone else thread, in your thread you are the boss ... but the whole "i don't like the way you tell me what to do, your not allowed in my clubhouse anymore" act is fucking childish and i also don't appreciate this whole "yeah i see you but you still haven't earned a seat amongst us" attitude you are giving me..

see now i said what i have to say and now it your turn i am not gonna say i am done talking about it and post some pics and change the subject... say what you need to say and squash it like a man.. and i am not just gonna settle for ignoring eachother because i still feel that i did nothing wrong to deserve it originally.. it was not what you said it was how you said it, and today of all days it just rubbed me the wrong way....and because we hang out at the same spots and will bump into eachother in other threads and it gonna be awkward

kicking me out your clubhouse...talking some shit and then changing the subject so now i am a dick for responding to words that are said directly about me, and my response was still an accident if i seen yours i wouldn't have posted mine still out of respect for your thread and then refusing to even read what i wrote, even though I give you plenty of dap in it .. if you want me to remove it i will.. but all childish ho ass moves I have ever seen a grown man do.. if you are really that mad over the gf joke then you are lame as fuck.. you made a quip at me and I made one back that is what guys do

the whole donkey picture is a misunderstanding I guess my bad

I always assumed you were in your thirties and I am only 25 and I feel like I am trying to be the bigger man and that is sad..real sad..

you are the one giving off the bad vibes around here, I am just not taking your shit..i am sorry everyone.. you can neg rep me turn your back on me ban me whatever you feel.. but I am not gonna stand for this, because if this is what ICMAG is about to become than I don't want to be a part of it anymore

now I am not changing the subject I am updating the grow I await your response cause I know you are reading


3...2....1....happy new year

so first time back at the grow since last update and since recent event.. It is not like I can take some buddies with me to the grow so when I get there I am on super high alert.. I drive around looking for any suspicious cars parked near the house.. I drive around a few times just to triple check but only false alarms... that is how they will try to get you..they wont rob your house why you aren't there they will hit you while you are going in so you can open safes etc...

I get in the house and my living room light on a timer is set for off.. I decide before I go downstairs I should watch outside for a min just so if something did happen I would see it coming and no be all the way downstairs .. so I sit around in the dark just sorta peeking out the window and waiting and nothing happens

so I finally go downstairs..and everything was still there and looking normal... hadn't been there in about 4-5 days I believe so I check first that everything is still alive which it was and then got to work

I have only made like 4 or 5 trips to the grow during the duration of the WW crop this time and a little behind on rez changes..first one on day 10 second on 19 instead of 7, 14, 21

50ml calmg 250 micro 375 bloom 10ml powder kb 50ml silica 175ml sm90..getting the rez changes done more easy with the extra pump.. now I can shop vac the excess in one load.. once that was done I changed the moms again even though I changed them last time and since I didn't have to take clones I just gave them a legit haircut and tossed the bracnhes and that was it

waited around for about a half hour for the light to flip and snapped these.. I haven't spent nearly as much time with this crop than the last but they are still doing very well










I did some defoliation to this WW last time too but I took a few more and I am gonna do a heavier one the next time I show... I just bought my self at least a week from the grow but I may come back sooner

 

[b00m]

Stay Safe Brother GMax :friends:
Still reading through the being robbed story and it saddens me to read such stuff
Glad to read you are on the move and hunt for a new grow, do what you have to do bruz to take care of business and your security.
Keep that chin up mate and leave the dickheads to their own fate, pulling guns on people to rob them is not going to end well for them, trust me

 

[Jbonez]

canopy is balling out bro.. Looking NICE..

 

[GMax]

thanks boom I am gonna leave them to their own fate..the universe will work thing out for them without me even trying probably..bobble is right that is not worth dying for because weed has way less value to me than to them..i can just make more...they will make enough enemies that their time will come and they are not even professional enough if they botched robbing me that bad...and they didn't even check me for my own weapon which is supposed to be the first thing your do.....robber FAIL... if i did have a gun i could have shot all three when they were walking back to their car with the backs to me... i may get my CCW just because, i don't have any felonies so i might as well, no one would probably ever see it though and i would only ever use it in a justified last resort fashion

the whole thing about me giving up growing and becoming a ripper was a dark joke... i love growing too much

thanks again bro

canopy is balling out bro.. Looking NICE..

thank you J... i didn't really get to to much training with them and the holes are only 2'' and solid instead of 3'' and string that can be moved around... so it is much harder to do any weaving anyways.. but i didn't do much either way because i haven't been visiting the grow that much... it still turned out pretty well though and i am impressed... the SB seems to not like wasted space either

and this is what they looked like on day 1 of flowering...not too happy

 

[GMax]

got a few houses lined up to look at tom... but I made an even bigger move today...


caught up with an old good friend...good peoples no questions asked..trustworthy and I have 100% faith in.... and he has a nack for scheming


we are setting up a mutual beneficial partnership... he wants some SB because all that is going around is reggie and he pay cash up front for some decent weight

but the bigger thing that he is doing to for me.....he owns his own business and he is giving me a "job"... I work zero hours a week and then once a week I will get a company check... he wanted to do it for free but I wouldn't let him... what I worked out for was basically I give him $500 dirty and he gives me $450 clean.. and the best part is it is a commission job so there is no real limit as long as I a not too crazy... went all out too... I got my own company shirt w/ name, business cards w/ name...company checks ...everything legit as fuck...this is a big step for me


i haven't had a real job in a while and it hard to find a house w/o one as crazy as that sounds now when i go i have all the paperwork i need and a boss (friend) who give me good recommendation

another thing i want to do is print up a fake credit report with alterations

then when i go look at a house... i will where dress shirt and tie the whole nine...come with a folder with all my paperwork and put on a façade like i am a young nice businessy type guy...being all organized and dressed nice should put off a good impression so they have no problems not trusting me

finding houses has always been the hardest for me so hopefully this will make it easier

any other tips you wanna add... go right ahead

 

[high life 45]

Nice sounds like a good gig!

Out with the bad and in with the good!

Instead of printing up a fake credit report you should get your boss to write you a letter of recommendation. Show up with a couple pay stubs on top of that and you should be golden.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

I was gonna write an epic story here thinking about it last night, but fuck it. Ill go point form instead.

1) write as much as you want : its your thread. If people cant keep up with the reading then they dont have to read it. Fuck em.

2) no matter how smart you are, you only have to read the situation wrong once when a guns involved and your fucked. Proper fucked fucked. Dont play with guns or play with people who play with guns.

3) i really get the whole thing about standing up for yourself for the first time and feeling like a man. Most people here have never faced the sharp end of a gun held in anger. It leaves an imprint on you i would imagine. You cant talk about it to your friends for obvious reasons but you want to talk about it somewhere : here is as good a place as any. Again if people dont want to read it they dont have to. Fuck em. Just dont make a habit of it. See point #2.

4) im not sure whats going on with the bitching about who said what to who, but when you get into all that argueing shit on the internet you look like an idiot, even if your in the right. Hit him or dont hit him, just stop talking about it. Shit or get off the pot as we say in Australia.

5) everyone is telling you to be real careful in the next few days, and look for a new place. Easier said than done i know. When my ex wife an i split and she ripped me off i shut down for 6 months just in case. But heres a thought : if you going to move, why not move away from detroit (which sounds like the smelly ass of the USA at the moment) and go somewhere a bit more decent? Make a break and start your whole life anew? You have proven skills in growing, your writing is articulate, and your smart enough to know what to do to increase your chances of buying a house (job, clothes, etc) so you have employable skills. With all the new laws across the country i would think you would be an asset to any new grow setup in any of the new legal/medical states.

6) spot on regarding building a front for the income for tax reasons as well as house buying. Dressing the part and looking the part and being prepared will go a very long way. Go 1 step further and make your own business and sub contract to your friend so your front looks more legit, can grow easier, and can transfer if you do. And its a nice feeling to be able to say that you run your own business.

7) any dealings with any other human beings involving money will have a risk associated with it. Thats life. Dealing with "homeys" on the streets of detroit has a risk similar to being in the military in iraq i would think, but wihtout those cool sand coloured helmets and vests. Stop that shit. Get some retailers or wholesalers or just make some better friends. Again easier said than done.

8) nice plants, keep your chin up, enjoy the new year. Dont forget point #2

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

Double post ....

 

[GMax]

Nice sounds like a good gig!

Out with the bad and in with the good!

Instead of printing up a fake credit report you should get your boss to write you a letter of recommendation. Show up with a couple pay stubs on top of that and you should be golden.

that is a great idea maybe I could do both... the problem is this is something that has just been worked out today and I still haven't worked out the fine details but he is definitely on board...but cant really get any back pay stubs

also I am very new to this and want to make sure I am doing it right... like whats the vig on this actions... you know how gangsters are always like the vig.. and it means...yeah yeah (always sunny joke)

for real though, any tips on this subject would be appreciated.. I realize that it might not be smart to talk about most things so anything like that you can hit me in pm

 

[GMax]

I was gonna write an epic story here thinking about it last night, but fuck it. Ill go point form instead.

1) write as much as you want : its your thread. If people cant keep up with the reading then they dont have to read it. Fuck em.



2) no matter how smart you are, you only have to read the situation wrong once when a guns involved and your fucked. Proper fucked fucked. Dont play with guns or play with people who play with guns.

you are absolutely right.. I have never had a gun and I decided i am not about to start... I have replayed the situation over and over and even how it would have went if I was armed... it could have went better or it could have went much worse.. and situations like that will bring too much heat

3) i really get the whole thing about standing up for yourself for the first time and feeling like a man. Most people here have never faced the sharp end of a gun held in anger. It leaves an imprint on you i would imagine. You cant talk about it to your friends for obvious reasons but you want to talk about it somewhere : here is as good a place as any. Again if people dont want to read it they dont have to. Fuck em. Just dont make a habit of it. See point #2.

ICMAG is my place to talk... I have to be fake and have a façade about not being a grower everyday of my life and here I can actually be who I really am...and in all honesty, I never have, but if I did meet a grower in real life he is probably the person I would stay the farthest away from ...

sadly this was actually the 3rd time I have had a gun pulled on me


4) im not sure whats going on with the bitching about who said what to who, but when you get into all that argueing shit on the internet you look like an idiot, even if your in the right. Hit him or dont hit him, just stop talking about it. Shit or get off the pot as we say in Australia.

I absolutely agree, but as much as I hate and think it is stupid that I am fighting on the internet I still stand by everything I say.. most of you are taking this out of context anyways..

anyone who doesn't want me in their thread is fine, but don't come into my thread after the fact with the sole intention of disrespecting me..because that is how you make me your enemy..and then dropping low blows in your own thread and running is called a sucker punch where I am from.... and if sending 2 pms to you in the duration of my entire thread, from someone who is really doing something good, is too much of a nuisance..then you probably wouldn't lift a finger to help someone who is up and coming, and you don't deserve to be in the spot you are... I would like to see this site have good "leadership"

that is just how I feel.. I don't want people picking sides on this or getting in the middle.. the vert section seems to have a bigger sense of community than anywhere else on this site and I am not trying to ruin that...that is why it is a shame this is happening... I have made numerous attempts to make this right and even apologized when I felt not necessary..thats as far as i want to discuss it until he replies

5) everyone is telling you to be real careful in the next few days, and look for a new place. Easier said than done i know. When my ex wife an i split and she ripped me off i shut down for 6 months just in case. But heres a thought : if you going to move, why not move away from detroit (which sounds like the smelly ass of the USA at the moment) and go somewhere a bit more decent? Make a break and start your whole life anew? You have proven skills in growing, your writing is articulate, and your smart enough to know what to do to increase your chances of buying a house (job, clothes, etc) so you have employable skills. With all the new laws across the country i would think you would be an asset to any new grow setup in any of the new legal/medical states.

its a real difficult decision.. as much as I don't like this place sometimes, it is my home, its where I grew up, its where my family is ... it wouldn't be hard for me to be away from my family but I would miss a lot.. a few years back I was gonna move to a med state and try to do just that, but I realized that it wouldn't change anything... I still would never tell anyone about my grow and all that so it wouldn't really change my lifestyle, I would still have to put up a façade and all that.. and I wouldn't be able to use my WW and be within any laws anywhere... I am kinda under the impression that being med only gives you a false sense of security

where I live is one of the last remaining Wild Wests of weed(obviously sometimes in bad ways)... prices around here are still pretty high and quality is low and being surrounded by so many big citys there is always a market for it, and I am close to major highways so it can still be exported anywhere.. I decided if I am gonna do this.. I might as well be close to my family and where I can make max returns

I am kinda holding out for my state to become medical, so then instead of flocking to the new hot med state I will already be here and have my foot in the door

since I am on such as short notice I may be forced to rent this next place which may be a little more risky

6) spot on regarding building a front for the income for tax reasons as well as house buying. Dressing the part and looking the part and being prepared will go a very long way. Go 1 step further and make your own business and sub contract to your friend so your front looks more legit, can grow easier, and can transfer if you do. And its a nice feeling to be able to say that you run your own business.

all in time.. it takes baby steps getting there.. a little over 2yrs ago I had no place to live (after a ltr breakup) no car, no job, couple hundred dollars, a few oz and my grow equipment.. and here I am now

7) any dealings with any other human beings involving money will have a risk associated with it. Thats life. Dealing with "homeys" on the streets of detroit has a risk similar to being in the military in iraq i would think, but wihtout those cool sand coloured helmets and vests. Stop that shit. Get some retailers or wholesalers or just make some better friends. Again easier said than done.

yeah I am usually a zipper head but I am gonna have to wholesale now.. I don't want you all to get the impression that I am not insulating myself enough, because (most) of my regular customers (who I do trust) I still get the money and pretend like I go and pick it up and just stop for a burger..that is how hardcore I am

homey was not really a friend he was more business only.. but we had done good business in the past.. I thought I would only be dealing with him and I am really particular about meeting new people.. he said he was waiting for his uncle and I thought he was just gonna get the money from him.. I didn't even see them approaching the car and once they were in it I was already in the situation at that point and guns were an unexpected part of the equation

8) nice plants, keep your chin up, enjoy the new year. Dont forget point #2

you too my friend, and for the record, I like your style too.. you are not afraid to ask questions and are straightforward and you seem to be all about facts and numbers... it seems to me that you have already outgrown your name...happy new year

 

[GMax]

made another trip to the grow just for peace of mind...

everything was doing good and I decided I should harvest some crops from my old room

the SB harvest is looking soooo good I had to take pics...

this first one shows why I expect a lot more from the WWs...




like I said in the last WW harvest the buds weren't that big.. well all of these branches have a top bud that is bigger(and denser) than the biggest bud from last WW...and, at the time, I said I could go pull at least 3 buds from my old room that were bigger, well there are 11 total, all from the same wall....!


this one might even be the biggest SB bud I have ever grown....




maybe even my biggest vertical bud ever... my record for that is 4.5g (Sensi Star)...the bud pictured weighed 14.7g wet


the SB is also looking more beautiful than ever...with purple leaves throughout and swirls of lavender in the buds that give it an almost pinkish hue





the bright colors where mostly on the side facing the light...so I flipped the one bud over to the backside (green) to show the difference








I was gonna harvest more than one crop but after seeing these buds I am just gonna harvest this one because it may honestly be a contender for my best crop from my old system EVER...everything pictured is just the tops of the plants, and it already look close to 3oz my record with 8 systems and SB is 6oz from one wall..which in theory would harvest 3lbs from all 8 walls... even though the buds were small, my WW outyeilded my old room because I got roughly 26oz, so in theory 2 walls should harvest 3.25lb...

so now my old room needs to get 6.5z to tie it back up.....


in other news.. I know that this goes against the judgment of many of my friends here...

but I have decided I am not moving my grow...or at least not speeding up the process in any way

although I planned on moving anyways before any of the drama happened, I am not going to let someone else force me out of my own "home" if that makes sense... I know it is risky, but it is a personal decision....

they already got me for the 8z..but at this point that is chump change to me .. there is no way that I am gonna let them stop/slow my production and force me to rush into my next spot which could put me at even more risk....

I know that most wouldn't condone my actions, but I believe I did exactly what I should have done... instead of him possibly bragging to his friends about how he got me (or even planning to hit me again where it hurts) instead he is gonna have to explain all the bruises over his face and where all his stuff went..which is basically a walking billboard "not to fuck with me" also I am very selective about who knew where I was when I was living there.. I am about 90% positive homey doesn't know, and still 150% positive homey would never get cops involved or anything like that...

don't get me wrong I am still moving like I said I was planning it before any of this happened.... I am just simply doing it on my terms... I don't want to rush and have to rent, I want to buy...and once I get the rest of this WW crop gone and get things sorted out with my new business venture and then my next WW gone, I will be in good shape to do that


I will be spending the next few days getting caught back up then.. I got a simple plan for it really, the WW crop in veg didn't recover like I expected and the clones are too varying in size to try put together for an even canopy in the WW so I am gonna take the best ones and divide between 1-2 old systems..leave the rest in there to veg a little longer while a new batch of clones root...and then move them into the old room about a week later...move my new clones over to veg and that will be my next WW crop...

gonna keep things going...throwing away crops that are only halfway done is not a problem at this point...and my landlord is gonna stay out of my business... he already did a walkthrough at end of year 1... it was kind of a dick move to make me sign a whole 1yr lease again to stay, but the first year went good so I wanted to buy a whole more year of "stress free" growing... now it is sorta unspoken that it is month to month..so I can stay as long as I want or go whenever and not be bothered either way

 

[Mister_D]

Gmax - When considering the big picture bobble and freds are right on point as usual. I can understand your point of view on the situaition though. Spent a better part of my life in, let's call them, "unfriendly" parts of town. No offence to to bobble or DHF, but I'm doubtful either of you have spent enough/any time in the "streets" to fully understand the code. To most people i'm sure gmax's reaction seems a bit crazy. Fact is, if he had just let them take it, he would become a known mark. That guarentees he will be fucked with further in the future. Is it worth taking a bullet over in the grand scheme? No, but sometimes standing up in dangerous situation is the lesser of two evils. As fred said, your best option is to move/shut down the op asap. Might fuck with the bottom line, but not as bad as uncle coming by and cleaning you out......

Sounds to me like you just needed a reminder about some of the rules.
1. never deal with strangers......
2. cut anybody off that's fucking with powders etc.
3. Never show anybody where you grow PERIOD!

All that said, i'm proud of ya for holding you own . Had to tell many people over the years not to underestimate a skinny guy, they fight til they're hamburger.......

 

[Mister_D]

made another trip to the grow just for peace of mind...

everything was doing good and I decided I should harvest some crops from my old room

the SB harvest is looking soooo good I had to take pics...

this first one shows why I expect a lot more from the WWs...

[URL="https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=39030&pictureid=992703"]View Image[/URL]


like I said in the last WW harvest the buds weren't that big.. well all of these branches have a top bud that is bigger(and denser) than the biggest bud from last WW...and, at the time, I said I could go pull at least 3 buds from my old room that were bigger, well there are 11 total, all from the same wall....!


this one might even be the biggest SB bud I have ever grown....


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maybe even my biggest vertical bud ever... my record for that is 4.5g (Sensi Star)...the bud pictured weighed 14.7g wet


the SB is also looking more beautiful than ever...with purple leaves throughout and swirls of lavender in the buds that give it an almost pinkish hue


[URL="https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=39030&pictureid=992704"]View Image[/URL]


the bright colors where mostly on the side facing the light...so I flipped the one bud over to the backside (green) to show the difference


[URL="https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=39030&pictureid=992723"]View Image[/URL]


[URL="https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=39030&pictureid=992722"]View Image[/URL]


I was gonna harvest more than one crop but after seeing these buds I am just gonna harvest this one because it may honestly be a contender for my best crop from my old system EVER...everything pictured is just the tops of the plants, and it already look close to 3oz my record with 8 systems and SB is 6oz from one wall..which in theory would harvest 3lbs from all 8 walls... even though the buds were small, my WW outyeilded my old room because I got roughly 26oz, so in theory 2 walls should harvest 3.25lb...

so now my old room needs to get 6.5z to tie it back up.....


in other news.. I know that this goes against the judgment of many of my friends here...

but I have decided I am not moving my grow...or at least not speeding up the process in any way

although I planned on moving anyways before any of the drama happened, I am not going to let someone else force me out of my own "home" if that makes sense... I know it is risky, but it is a personal decision....

they already got me for the 8z..but at this point that is chump change to me .. there is no way that I am gonna let them stop/slow my production and force me to rush into my next spot which could put me at even more risk....

I know that most wouldn't condone my actions, but I believe I did exactly what I should have done... instead of him possibly bragging to his friends about how he got me (or even planning to hit me again where it hurts) instead he is gonna have to explain all the bruises over his face and where all his stuff went..which is basically a walking billboard "not to fuck with me" also I am very selective about who knew where I was when I was living there.. I am about 90% positive homey doesn't know, and still 150% positive homey would never get cops involved or anything like that...

don't get me wrong I am still moving like I said I was planning it before any of this happened.... I am just simply doing it on my terms... I don't want to rush and have to rent, I want to buy...and once I get the rest of this WW crop gone and get things sorted out with my new business venture and then my next WW gone, I will be in good shape to do that


I will be spending the next few days getting caught back up then.. I got a simple plan for it really, the WW crop in veg didn't recover like I expected and the clones are too varying in size to try put together for an even canopy in the WW so I am gonna take the best ones and divide between 1-2 old systems..leave the rest in there to veg a little longer while a new batch of clones root...and then move them into the old room about a week later...move my new clones over to veg and that will be my next WW crop...

gonna keep things going...throwing away crops that are only halfway done is not a problem at this point...and my landlord is gonna stay out of my business... he already did a walkthrough at end of year 1... it was kind of a dick move to make me sign a whole 1yr lease again to stay, but the first year went good so I wanted to buy a whole more year of "stress free" growing... now it is sorta unspoken that it is month to month..so I can stay as long as I want or go whenever and not be bothered either way

You should strongly reconsider the move. Security should always be any growers first priority .

 

[DHF]

I STRONGLY advocate yas shuttin down and movin...........Pride goeth before a fall.......He who hid well , lived well........

My 2 cents....DHF............

 

[silver hawaiian]

Agreed

Security ain't ever convenient - and if it becomes convenient, it may not be so secure..

Best of luck and all my support either way Gmax

 

[GMax]

Gmax - When considering the big picture bobble and freds are right on point as usual. I can understand your point of view on the situaition though. Spent a better part of my life in, let's call them, "unfriendly" parts of town. No offence to to bobble or DHF, but I'm doubtful either of you have spent enough/any time in the "streets" to fully understand the code. To most people i'm sure gmax's reaction seems a bit crazy. Fact is, if he had just let them take it, he would become a known mark. That guarentees he will be fucked with further in the future. Is it worth taking a bullet over in the grand scheme? No, but sometimes standing up in dangerous situation is the lesser of two evils. As fred said, your best option is to move/shut down the op asap. Might fuck with the bottom line, but not as bad as uncle coming by and cleaning you out......

Sounds to me like you just needed a reminder about some of the rules.
1. never deal with strangers......
2. cut anybody off that's fucking with powders etc.
3. Never show anybody where you grow PERIOD!

All that said, i'm proud of ya for holding you own . Had to tell many people over the years not to underestimate a skinny guy, they fight til they're hamburger.......

You should strongly reconsider the move. Security should always be any growers first priority .

Mister D... great words great advice and almost exactly how I feel... thank you
Security is my greatest concern..always.. and if I felt insecure in my current situation I would already be gone… I know that freds and bobbles are right, they always are.. but my mindset is that I am not going to let myself be forced out…finding a good grow house is key in security and something that cant be rushed..
Now I am still moving but I am not tossing these crops that are currently in flowering…I have sped up all the behind the scenes work though…I am determined that the next place I get I am buying or land contracting…and since I have already made the transition of not living with it, then it will never even be known to exist by anybody but me ..the points you made, here are the answers
1.true, but homey was not a stranger, and even though situations like that are always in the back of my mind, I never expected that from him….
2. absoluty correct, and something I should already know from experience, but never forgetting now
3. also absolutely correct, no one has been at my grow since I have moved out, but when I was living there and I would have people over, it was never like it was introduced as “my grow” and it was mostly girls who I was trying to smash..i am a guy and think with my dick still..but never people I had made friends with or people who I dealt with or even old friends from back home… this became the number one reason for me moving out, the hermit lifestyle was starting to get to me

I know you guys are looking out for me and it is greatly appreciated

I STRONGLY advocate yas shuttin down and movin...........Pride goeth before a fall.......He who hid well , lived well........

My 2 cents....DHF............

I know you are never trying to steer me wrong….i don’t want you to feel like I am going against what you are saying cause I am not… all my crops are being harvested in about 2 weeks and I am gonna move all that and then i will have enough to move.. I am not doing this out of pride, I am doing this because I am almost forced to.. I have always been good with money and I cant afford to shutdown now and still have enough for restart, nutes, and rent/bills ( on two houses) etc all this money will go very quick … it is not like moving is cutting into my profit and I am too proud to let it happen, but if this is the scenario I am in, I need to make sure that I can afford it, so its more cutting into my survivial funds

I am throwing in more crops because I might as well … my last crop is done in 2 weeks and then a week to dry, so three weeks total… if I threw some SB into flowering today, then by the time my crops were done that one would be close to halfway… then during the rest of the month while I am trying to move the bud, find a place etc… I can have more SB going and then if I happen to still be there I can harvest it and have an extra headstash/money to hold me over while I am starting back up somewhere else ( love SB short flowering times for a reason)...i don’t wanna end up being there long enough to have squeezed another crop out and not have and throwing away a crop that is even a week away is something I am prepared to do no problem....once I have enough and find a place anything and everything will get tossed without even blinking...

I need to make sure this is clear…. I AM STILL MOVING ASAP… but it is exactly that, as soon as POSSIBLE….i am not staying here a whole more year, i am trying to be out in 3months maximum

not growing more crops out of greed, i probably have enough currently to shut down but it is going to require me to be broke for a month or so ... I am for the added financial security, because not being able to afford your grow's bills/rent while you are waiting for crops to finish is an even bigger nightmare to me

Anything that would have happened with unc etc would have already happened... anyone who even went to high school w homey and calls for SB, i tell them i cant get it anymore, as bad as i feel... i would rather people think that i got robbed and it hurt my pockets so bad that i cant afford to get on anymore and am "out of business" than for people to know the real truth (that i am a grower) so pride is definitely being put aside

Agreed

Security ain't ever convenient - and if it becomes convenient, it may not be so secure..

Best of luck and all my support either way Gmax

That is a good way to put it.. I actually planned on moving originally because I was starting to become too comfortable and I thought that was bad so I better switch it up.. but I am only Upgrading to a better place… never downgrading to a worse one..
Thank you my friend all the support is greatly appreciated