unknown Indoor mix Cfl Coco grow

[ltkipras]

your nutes are freezing ?????? how are you keeping the plants warm when the lights are off?

just like it is easy to over water when they are little it is easy to over fertilize. they don't need food with every watering when they are small and/or the nutes DON'T need to be full strength.

coco nutes and soil nutes are not exactly the same. i've read that coco is high in K on it's own so the Ca and Mag levels are higher in the coco formulas to balance it out. i don't think that means soil nutes won't work ......... you just have to be aware that they are not "dialed" for coco.

i would not go running to the grow store yet! ........... read some stickies and ask some of the coco headies some questions. the good thing about IC is that nobody is trying to sell you anything

good luck!

My grow box isn't very big so I just put an iron next to the intake and the temps are 23°C, but outside the box where I keep all my supplies and shit. that's the problem with my country, we don't have hydro stores, I got all the stuff I have from a supermarkets and similar places or found at home, there are some gardening stores but they're very poor in choice, gonna check one more store tomorrow and see maybe they have something usefull. right now I have some nutrients with 5-2.5-2.5, and schultz 10-60-10 my nutrient sollution is half of each and I mix them with half water when watering. I am also thinking of using organic teas as fertilizer, but prolly thats for the future grows.

I moved here from rollitup, and loved it here, I get good friendly advice, and no negativity for now

 

[greenmatter]

when i started asking coco question one of the threads i got pointed out to me was this one ..... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55683

there are links to nutrient calculators in there that should help you out. it is not a short thread but it is full of good info on coco.

welcome to IC! ........

 

[soursmoker]

Not trying to step on anyone's toes here but if dealing with nutes and all that is a problem. Might want to read up on organics and see if that might suit you better.
Although it is more upfront for all the materials, and sometimes they can be hard to find. After you get your base soil, if you decide to recycle and reuse it, it's pretty much free...
Just a few re ammendments with the extras of the products you already bought for the base mix.

 

[ltkipras]

when i started asking coco question one of the threads i got pointed out to me was this one ..... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55683

there are links to nutrient calculators in there that should help you out. it is not a short thread but it is full of good info on coco.
welcome to IC! ........

Thanks I'll check it out, when I'm bored or sth cuase it's quite long

Not trying to step on anyone's toes here but if dealing with nutes and all that is a problem. Might want to read up on organics and see if that might suit you better.
Although it is more upfront for all the materials, and sometimes they can be hard to find. After you get your base soil, if you decide to recycle and reuse it, it's pretty much free...
Just a few re ammendments with the extras of the products you already bought for the base mix.

Wait didn't catch you there, are you offering me to switch to soil or something? or to do organics in coco. I have considered switching to soil, but for now it's all coco if I fail again then will try soil, I have read a few articles on coco, where they use organic stuff in their mediums, but I'm still afraid to try anything like that, cause there's very little info on coco organics, this grow is basically to get an ounce or two of bud, and regenerate the females into mothers, and then I'll experiment with organics in coco. If anyone's got any experience with organics in coco, they're widely welcome here.

 

[ltkipras]

S here are some pics of my lil plants from today one of them is 10 days old and the other three are 9 days old

I think this is the 10 day old plant

I flushed them with water with a ph of 5.0 any good ways, to mesure the ph of coco? after that gonna be watering wit 5.5-6.0 my nutrient solution is between these numbers

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

so they are on 12/12 in flower? You leave an iron on all night in the attic? growing in the attic an parents dont know? nutes freeze to ice?

what are you going to do for smell? how much do you expect in harvets if ya flipped from seedling?

This is gonna get funny at some point an im subbed.

 

[ltkipras]

so they are on 12/12 in flower? You leave an iron on all night in the attic? growing in the attic an parents dont know? nutes freeze to ice?

what are you going to do for smell? how much do you expect in harvets if ya flipped from seedling?

This is gonna get funny at some point an im subbed.

Yeah probably something can go wrong at some point hope not, but the attic is quite big and dark and my grow box isn't easy to spot if your not looking for it, besides that my parents barely go to the attic, they usually send me to get sth they need, and they were there when my box was running all the fans and light and didn't notice a thing, I try to get to the attic unnoticed, usually when no one's home, and if they ever decide to go up there i can cut the power for it cause when I changed my fan adapter from 9v to 12v it got a lil loud, and for smell I'll probably be using deodorising liquds and stuff, carbon filter wouldn't be so effective since my box isn't completely sealed, and the iron is touching some cartboard of the box and no fire or anything close to it. Hope my parents don't find out about this grow, maybe will make a pc grow box to put in my closet, don't know what will come into my head.

For harvest I can expect anything between 0g to 100g it depends on how many females I get and many other things, we'll see what I get but it doesn't really matter, if they go through all the flowering and everything then it will be an achievement for me, but i think 1-2 ounces is very possible

 

[greenmatter]

a heat mat for seedlings would be a whole lot safer than an iron.

FWIW my dad would have beaten the shit out of me for growing in his house ....... but he would have killed me for starting a house fire. i can't say i would have blamed him now that i have a chance to see things from his perspective

if you can't make it safe, shut it down

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

turn off the iron dude, it will eventually get hot enough to start melting and start a fire, they are not rated for continuous use. if you have temp issues at night them run the lights at night an sleep during the day. I really dont think ur gonna get much off plants dlipped straight from seed.

 

[ltkipras]

I'm not saying there is no danger using this method to keep everything warm, but the Iron is runnig full time over a month, and I never ran into any problems, the iron is even touching the cartboard next to the fan, I will be looking for an alternative. I will try to pull through this grow with what I have, and gonna sell some weed that I grow and then upgrade to a better setup, and deffinetely got plans for the outdoor season.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

what do you plan on selling? you not gonna get more than an ounce....more like a couple grams pre plant if ya put them in flower from seed.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

that iron will eventually burn out an cause a major problem.....your playin russian roulette.

 

[ltkipras]

well I'm not trying to make a fortune, and probably gonna smoke it before I notice it's gone , but if i got an ounce, i could get about 200$ by sellig it, since most weed you get here is low quality and very low bag appeal, if I grow some mid grade it will sell fast, then I could get some quality nutes, a better heating soliution, could build a new box, and maybe hps lighting, ph, ec meter, it's like you said a roulette you never know what's gonna happen so not to have any unfortunate turns I'm gonna tinker something out with the iron so I could be sure it wont catch fire or anything, you convinced me.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

thank you, .......believe me you dont want the risk of burnin down ur parents house while u sleep. Think about safety first bro, 100% everyone on here will tell ya ditch the iron. if you switch the cycle to be on at night it will help. good luck

 

[ltkipras]

Hey, after yesterdays flushing all my plant's are a tiny bit droopy except one of them has perked up very nice

can it be because I put it next to the fan where the warm air comes in? I put another one there this time we'll see. the temps are 23-27C, and the humidity is quite low 30%, also put a metal thingie between the iron and the box, so now it isn't touching anything I checked on the ineternet and only found heater which range from 2 kW which is to much and I could be running it in intervals but when it would turn off it would blow cold air on plants right away, even when I work with my plants for 20 min the temprature drops 7C, and the iron uses 220w so for now this is the best way to keep a constant temprature, heating mats are quite expensive here maybe gonna get them later, and added a pc fan for air circulation in the box.
also gonna try to find a way to keep my nutrient mix warmer.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

your not gettin it dude, its not the risk of the iron touching something. its the iron itself that will eventually catch itself on fire from overheating the components an frying them to a flash point an then ya have fire.

You need to remember this is ur parents place, not urs to burn down........and what, all for a few grams of weed.......TURN THE IRON OFF!

ps. aquarium heater for ur nutes to stay warm.

 

[greenmatter]

your not gettin it dude, its not the risk of the iron touching something. its the iron itself that will eventually catch itself on fire from overheating the components an frying them to a flash point an then ya have fire.

You need to remember this is ur parents place, not urs to burn down........and what, all for a few grams of weed.......TURN THE IRON OFF!

ps. aquarium heater for ur nutes to stay warm.

lose the iron brother! they are NOT designed for what you are using them for.

an incandescent bulb would be a better/safer source of heat

i know you don't want to hear it, but you need to make things safe before your first grow turns into a disaster.

 

[ltkipras]

It is not gonna burn down for the iron to set itself on fire you'd need a shortage, and if that happens then instantly the flow of electrycity would get shut down, cause of the breakers, for example if I had left an old charger in the wall, and when i'd come home the electricity would be gone in my room and if I'd check whats wrong wit that it would be only a small resistor or something broken inside because it didn't get no more electricity to burn further through, what if I'd change Irons everyday, giving them time to cool down, an incandecent bulb didn't produce enough heat for a 3x smaller box, and then the temps were + 15°C outside the box when now it is below 0, this is the best choice I have for a while. Do you think maybe a pc cpu would produce enough heat hooked up to a 12v adapter? gonna check on some other alternatives.

 

[greenmatter]

i think you should be reading about how to build a grow box

the stoners around here argue endlessly about nutes,bulbs,genetics and about a thousand other things. there are times when all you can really do is shake your head because at the end of the day all that most things are is a difference of opinion ....... there are a 1000 ways to do things and we are all here to learn from each other so i can live with the "differences of opinion"

when you start doing unsafe shit on the other hand (and keep saying it's O.K.) then you really don't want my opinion ......... but as long as i'm here ....... stoners doing stupid shit makes us all look bad, and risking a house fire because "this is the best choice i have for a while" most definitely falls into the stupid shit column

your best choice would be to shut it down, do some reading and build a grow box that is safe ............ but then again i am old, grumpy, and have been doing this for a while, so what the hell do i know

is there anyone else on IC heating their grow with an iron ???????

good luck and stay safe

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Dude just search "iron left on starts fire" or similar on google. flicker even has pics of the metal melted on irons that went up in flames.

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/LatestIncidentsContainer_26jul12AV.asp

heres a lil something to read.