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What Happens When Computers Get Smarter Than Humans?

bombadil.360

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having met countless people that have never been able to complete even a simple logical process correctly, I can safely inform that computers have been smarter than tons of humans since when I was sporting a tandy 1000 :)
 

yesum

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having met countless people that have never been able to complete even a simple logical process correctly, I can safely inform that computers have been smarter than tons of humans since when I was sporting a tandy 1000 :)


I am sure cell phones are smarter than many people using them. Had people almost crashing into me while talking on their little computer communicator. :greenstars: Walking down the street talking into their phones non stop, I figure anything they are saying is pretty dumb. Smart people do not tend to talk all that much in my experience.

As far as people with proper brains or geniuses, well overall I would say no. In certain areas the computer could overtake an individual in ability.
 

BlueBlazer

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what happens when strains of weed get smarter than people?

They start smoking us.
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Wiggs Dannyboy

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Three pages and not one mention of Asimov? C'mon people!!
"The Evitable Conflict"

I didn't know about that one. Here's another book, called "Colossus", this one a novel, about a similar situation. It was written in 1966, so was undoubtedly influenced by Asimov's earlier story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(novel)

One thing is for sure...we humans have absolutely NO WAY of accurately predicting what will happen in our future...chaos theory rules the day.
 

southflorida

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do a search for My Big Toe in google books, and enjoy a ride of a lifetime for free!

...i.e...you can read it all (600+ pages) online without buying it.

the scientist that wrote it, explains in detail why consciousness is digital, and why reality is simply information

he brings many, many examples in relation to AI, and why we, and Consciousness itself an AI
 
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komodod

Reality is simply information.

We are in many ways AI ourselves, we just believe and assume that we have a physical body, but it might be that we are a computer-based intelligence (consciousness) that is simply hallucinating this physical reality.


na
the universe could be in a water droplet dripping off ron jeremys cock....might be...most likely not though lol
it could be any reality... why waste your time perpetually trying to explore this concept? unless of course you are the next einstein and you are gonna remodel the current theories on space/time etc.
leave it for the real experts...:tiphat:
 
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greenmatter

what the hell do you mean by "WHEN" wiggs?

half of the people i meet can't function without a fucking smart phone in their hand .......... not to sound like an asshole but IMHO about 20% of the population is about as smart as a jar of peanuts, and just about as blind
 

southflorida

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na
the universe could be in a water droplet dripping off ron jeremys cock....might be...most likely not though lol
it could be any reality... why waste your time perpetually trying to explore this concept? unless of course you are the next einstein and you are gonna remodel the current theories on space/time etc.
leave it for the real experts...:tiphat:

it has already been remodeled, there are digital quantum physicists, so old-school science is about to become outdated

the old small picture thinking that the majority of scientists believe in and assume has them trapped inside their delusional small boxes built on fantasies that this world is fundamentally physical

...and it is about to crumble

we are AI ourselves, today this can be grasped quite easily if you actually observe how a computer works

our perceptions don't directly perceive reality

our consciosuness actually hallucinates this physical reality

similar to how the browser converts HTML into what we see on our monitors...in other words, what you are seeing on the monitor, is NOT what IS, you are seeing an interpretation of the HTML language

if you click View Page Source after clicking the right mouse button, you will see what is actually there

with our reality we can't do it that easily, but that is only because we didn't create us, consciousness created us

but, with a computer we can see the HTML, because it was created by humans

My Big Toe a trilogy that you can read on google books for free explains this in a lot of detail, if this is something you are interested in
 

skullznroses

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so computers which we invented proves we are AI ourselves?? sounds like a little bit of a convenient reversal of the facts to me.

reminds me of the question does art mimic life, or life mimic art??
 

southflorida

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so computers which we invented proves we are AI ourselves?? sounds like a little bit of a convenient reversal of the facts to me.

reminds me of the question does art mimic life, or life mimic art??

it does not prove it, it simply helps to grasp that we are of the same fundamental nature...in other words...our mind works like a computer, and obviously a computer was invented from copying the way our mind works
 
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komodod

it has already been remodeled, there are digital quantum physicists, so old-school science is about to become outdated

the old small picture thinking that the majority of scientists believe in and assume has them trapped inside their delusional small boxes built on fantasies that this world is fundamentally physical

...and it is about to crumble

we are AI ourselves, today this can be grasped quite easily if you actually observe how a computer works

our perceptions don't directly perceive reality

our consciosuness actually hallucinates this physical reality

similar to how the browser converts HTML into what we see on our monitors...in other words, what you are seeing on the monitor, is NOT what IS, you are seeing an interpretation of the HTML language

if you click View Page Source after clicking the right mouse button, you will see what is actually there

with our reality we can't do it that easily, but that is only because we didn't create us, consciousness created us

but, with a computer we can see the HTML, because it was created by humans

My Big Toe a trilogy that you can read on google books for free explains this in a lot of detail, if this is something you are interested in


well im glad we have an expert here to guide us through this whole new chapter in science because it obviously goes over my head. just out of interest where were you educated about all this? i take it your a profesional in the field?
 
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komodod

it does not prove it, it simply helps to grasp that we are of the same fundamental nature...in other words...our mind works like a computer, and obviously a computer was invented from copying the way our mind works


our mind is based on biological mass- brain cells and nerves and neurons etc.. im just wondering how a computer was made by copying our mind? just trying to get your logic here:)
 

southflorida

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if you mean proffesional as in traditional education, then no, I don't believe that traditional education has anything to really teaches us in the domain of consciousness. i'm just a human being that loves these topics and has been studying them where it counts, in my personal, direct experience. Consciousness is personal, it is not something that can be taught in school, or something a group of people can prove or discover. We, as consciousness can discover this for ourselves...if we have a desire for it...and a love-based intent.

Fear-based intent will not get you there, and since the majority of the people are making choices using fear-based intent, they listen to and respect politicians, scientists, and religion leaders.

Just the kind of people that are all about love.

These three fear-based, low consciousness, greeedy to the bone organized mafias are behind the majority of the evil that the world has seen, and will continue to see, as long as the masses continue to support and believe these mofos.
 

southflorida

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our mind is based on biological mass- brain cells and nerves and neurons etc.. im just wondering how a computer was made by copying our mind? just trying to get your logic here:)

the computer works through interpreting data

same as the mind/brain

it interprets data and creates what you are perceiving right now

you probably believe that you are seeing reality directly as it is

in case this is so, here's a thread where I explained why we never perceive reality directly, and have no way of doing it.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247797
 
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komodod

the computer works through interpreting data

same as the mind/brain

it interprets data and creates what you are perceiving right now

you probably believe that you are seeing reality directly as it is

in case this is so, here's a thread where I explained why we never perceive reality directly, and have no way of doing it.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=247797

hmm ive seen your threads around. no offense but your very much like the jehovas witnesses that come a' knocking. they believe what they want, no one can tell them different, they are right in their own mind, anyone who opposes their belief or opinion is either stupid, doesnt understand, or is brainwashed by the general consensus followed by the rest of society.

what you say about reality, is not profound, its quite good reasoning and cant be argued with but its very simple concepts.

its just absolutely crazy how you can throw around comments about the similarities between computers and the human brain, without any actually qualified knowledge in either and no one calls you out for it or questions you.
amazing!
 
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