BEST NUTRIENT LINE.......

[symbiote420]

It amazes the amount of nutes companies say you need and the $$$ people are spending lol, marketing is a form of brainwashing folks .....why do you think companies spend so much $$$$ on advertising, hmmm?!

All I do is add a little earthworm castings and perlite to my soilmix then I repot my plants every 7 to 10 days during veg into a bigger container, I'm now experiencing the best growth I've ever had ........I don't have to use any bottled nutes it all during the veg stage, maybe a castings tea if a particular plant is a little more hungrier than the rest, but that's it! The plant knows how to grow on it's own it's been doing it before we got here!

Neptune's Harvest Fish & Seaweed 2-3-1 is the ultimate complete fert, it's organic, it feeds the soil, not the plant too! The majority of these "miracle" nutes in a bottle do nothing more than add water weight to your fruits & flowers ...that's why those huge strawberries don't taste like shiz but water and the smaller ones are bursting with flavor!

We're not horses so take off the blinders people! Marijuana has always been a poor man's plant .....I bet you the countries it originated aren't using all these nutes, hell they probably can't afford one bottle let alone 30 ......I have some homies in the Motherland that don't even know who Fox Farms or Advanced Nutrients are and their shiz is straight dank!

They've bulked the animals up and we're now finding out the ill effects of that to our bodies, so what is this bulking of our buds really doing too then? Save your money and your life at the same time!
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[symbiote420]

Sorry about the double post ....I've been here close to a year now and I'm still labelled a guest lol, so I can't erase it ...or do basic things like put up an avatar ...... dunno?! Can a mod please erase one of the post for me? thank you!

 

[habeeb]

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ok, I'm really horrible at analogies, but you can never compare outdoor growing, to indoor growing ever when talking about ( buying nutes, nutrient management... )

second, 'organic' and 'salts' are two completely different methods of growing, and offer completely different paths of applying nutrition

third, please inform us of your, "soil mix" , so we know what your talking about

fourth, earthworm casts are nutrients, so you are applying nutrients

fifth, your once again using a nutrient, neptune's harvest, let alone a bottled one

sixth, you mention you re-pot, well repotting into a medium with more nutrients, doesn't really count against an argument having to do when talking against spending money for fertilizers


I'm just not understanding where your coming from here man...



I would like to point out a grow can be done cheaply with organic, so can a salt grow. and a grow can be expensive done organic, so can a salt grow.. it's all in selection, but most important, what you want and what you like to use.. I use some cheap stuff, why? only because it fits me, and I don't like many bottles, so naturally my cost is cheaper. it's that simple for me. but I also spend money in other areas where others wouldn't. do what works for you, or what your attracted to, and you can't go wrong with that

 

[gonnagrow]

Strictly my own experience. Foxfarm, good nutrients just too much silt. AN just pretty excellent overall. Same for Cutting Edge, my best grow in fact so far. xNutrients, nothing to see here folks. Now I'm trying Green Planet and so far rate them as good as Advanced.

Not rich or anything. Went to a garden show and was given all these samples for free.

 

[944s2]

hiya,,,for me,,,,,canna bio-grow,,,canna bio-flower,, ,canna bio-boost,, ,guanokalong,,,superthrive[only at transplant],,and lots and lots of love,,,cheers peace and safe growing s2

 

[RubeGoldberg]

H&G frustrates me... Have you ever looked at their guaranteed analysis? Makes righting deficiencies a nightmare, because you have no idea what you're feeding. Give them a call and all they say is "you need to run the whole line." Maybe that's why they release an incomplete base nute and want you to buy both of their kelp supplements for the micros....


YosemiteSam had a lot of luck with jacks classic hydroponic + calcium nitrate. He's got a thread on here if you want to check it out.

fertilizer labeling regs are to blame for that, most companies don't have accurate derived from statements.

TBH though, most people start trying to solve deficiencies before actually looking in to whether or not there is some kind of lockout.
which is about 100 times more common when using an off the rack base nutrient.

 

[opt1c]

best or cheapest???

you want the best run chem or organic
chem... canna base aptus additives sea green on top
organic.... biobizz base aptus additives sea green on top

you want to save a couple bucks go fuck around with everything else

you want simple shit that works look above

 

[FreedomFightr]

My personal opinion is H&G is way to salty, AN is overpriced and all hyped marketing. IMO the BEST cheapest easiest nute to use is Dyna. I use Botanicare's line up with some Dyna products. IMO any season veteran can grow fire with any nute company. Its about a general understanding what the plants need, how much to feed, when to feed and proper PH levels. LESS IS MORE. When your pouring 20+ bottles in one resi your chances of Nute lockup are increased.

 

[Mr. Smith]

Was really taking an interest to the Humboldt county's Deep Fusion.....I know if I posted a link which I don't know how to do....I might get more feedback....but this line looks pretty complete without too many additives required it would seem....Not too pricey either....also taking a gander at the heavy 16 line......what I'm really looking for is a top quality product that shines but doesn't require a million additives but is also friendly to biologicals..I do plan on using some additives though......thx.

 

[CasioCalculator]

Mr. Smith, if this is your first grow, I would skip the additives. Why? Because you need to find out what works first before you try to make it "better". If you are using a quality line of base nutrients there is no need for all the extra additives. Also, how will you be able to compare the effectiveness of adding product x when you have nothing to compare it to? As others have said before, the more you start adding the more likely you are going to lock out a nutrient. As long as your plant is getting it's proper nutrition, it will grow just fine. It is best to start off simple to get the hang of things and as you begin to learn the growth patterns of the plant, you will be better able to judge if you even need to use the magic potions with fancy labels.

As you can tell by the numerous different responses to "best nutrient line", nutrient lines are personal preference but in the end your final yield is not going to be crazy different between company A and company B especially on your first grow which is going to be less then perfect. I just finished my first grow and only used two bottles the entire time (lucas formula) and what turned out was some of the finest smoke I have come across.

The key to the first grow is keeping it simple and getting to the finish line. If you over complicate things, and don't know why things are going wrong, you are much more likely to get fed up and abort the whole process. The money you save on additives can be better spent on many other things. Over sizing your carbon filter being one, equipment to keep the grow environment within spec, or even just saving your money for when something you were not planning for happens and you have to run out and get something to fix it NOW. You can read/ask questions on the forums all you like but your first run will not be perfect and don't expect it to be. Best of luck to you brotha!

 

[Hammerhead]

I think they all can produce great cannabis if used properly. We all have our fav. I use PBP line for years with excellent results. The longer you use a line the more you know how to use it correctly. Just dont get sucked into the snake oil products . I was just going to get some Roots Excelurator 250ml is 60$ I dont know the shipping charge

 

[clown baby]

fertilizer labeling regs are to blame for that, most companies don't have accurate derived from statements.

TBH though, most people start trying to solve deficiencies before actually looking in to whether or not there is some kind of lockout.
which is about 100 times more common when using an off the rack base nutrient.

I agree that labeling laws aren't the best in CA. But it's clear that H&G is intentionally withholding information about what's in their product. Their "derived from" listings are a joke. Compare their analysis to any other base nute and it's clear.

My personal opinion is H&G is way to salty, .

Not trying to call you out or anything, but can you explain what makes one synthetic nutrient any saltier than another?? They're all derived from salts. And DynaGro is super concentrated (compare the weights of a gallon), so I think technically that means it's got more salts than most lines. I love dynagro, btw.

 

[growhi]

general hydroponics is the best on the market and has been for many many years !!


if its good enough for nasa, then its good enugh for my plants ! 3 parts gh nutes and you can grow even the pickyest feeder

 

[PetFlora]

Hydro-Research VEG+BLOOM

Hard Water or RO water formulas

One step powder, mixes great, pH stable, awesome results from many. Several IC threads confirm how awesome it is

 

[vStagger Leev]

I forgot to say... BioBizz Flavor, yields, overall health and vigor!




^^^ Blue Heron (Dynasty Seeds)

 

[symbiote420]

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ok, I'm really horrible at analogies, but you can never compare outdoor growing, to indoor growing ever when talking about ( buying nutes, nutrient management... )

second, 'organic' and 'salts' are two completely different methods of growing, and offer completely different paths of applying nutrition

third, please inform us of your, "soil mix" , so we know what your talking about

fourth, earthworm casts are nutrients, so you are applying nutrients

fifth, your once again using a nutrient, neptune's harvest, let alone a bottled one

sixth, you mention you re-pot, well repotting into a medium with more nutrients, doesn't really count against an argument having to do when talking against spending money for fertilizers


I'm just not understanding where your coming from here man...



I would like to point out a grow can be done cheaply with organic, so can a salt grow. and a grow can be expensive done organic, so can a salt grow.. it's all in selection, but most important, what you want and what you like to use.. I use some cheap stuff, why? only because it fits me, and I don't like many bottles, so naturally my cost is cheaper. it's that simple for me. but I also spend money in other areas where others wouldn't. do what works for you, or what your attracted to, and you can't go wrong with that

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1) I was raise by my grandparents from the ol school south .....I have a million and one analogies for ya lol, I was talking about indoor though!

2) Totally understood ..... very different indeed, salts kill your microlife! A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link! There's little to no microlife (which have assisted plants for billions of years) present when you are using chelated nutes, just no job for them to do! Kinda like testosterone when steroids are in the body ....I know there goes the analogies again lol

3) The mix BurnOne recommends here in the Organics forums! After reading that this summer I went back to my old ways ...before the dro stores came to town!

4) LOL

5) LOL again, it feeds the soil and microbes first ....natural chelation, which then give it to the plant, it doesn't force feed the plants. Indians showed the white man the power of using fish in the soil hundreds of years ago. I can make it myself but who wants their house smelling like a fish market dumpster lol
Seaweed has natural growth hormones that can't be ignored ...notice how nearly every nute company has it in the ingredients whether organic or synthetic!

6) So why would I go and dump even more nutes on the plant? Other things to buy in a grow room to help your yields downsizing that unnecessary nute budget is a good place to start!

I totally agree with your last point of view, that's what I was saying in the first place though just I was pointing out a "salts" based grow produces a product that's blotted and not as flavorful!

 

[symbiote420]

I'll add it takes more than two weeks to flush synthetics out of a plant, maybe never, especially if you've used them the entire life cycle of the plant(s)!

 

[symbiote420]

Hey Habeeb no pun intended bro, what strain were you smoking when you read my post ...sounds like something I might need to check out!

 

[Hammerhead]

Im starting to use more tea's this run then I have in the past. Im making my own tea recipe's thats new. I have used the pre packaged tea's. I dont know if I will see a improvement will have to wait and see.

 

[Biatchzxz]

I'm trying to get the best way to increase overall flavor and aroma in my nugs. Like resin oil production completely. Any auggestions or opinions on wat has been working amazing for you whether bottled or not bottled nutrients


Stagger - loving that sativa/ dominant bud