HAARP Engineering 'FRANKENSTORM' Hurricane Sandy - CAUGHT on SATELLITE and RADAR!!! ‏

[unspoken]

How did you do the calculation to come up with what the slope of line of best fit should be?

 

[unspoken]

all the drama when all we are trying to do is converse.

Meteorologist all over the WORLD are saying that the storm was geoengineered.

1 week prior to the hurricane (that i didnt know was coming till last minute) i had noticed CRAZY gridding going on in the sky which lead me to think that "they are doin something up there" so within a week a hurricane comes up the coast and slams into jersey. and i saw with my own eyes those cocksuckers grid the sky to (what looked like)control the direction of the storm. they did this all over coastal maine week prior to storm. If you think the Rockefellers are going to let bar harbor get hit by a bad storm haha yea right them dudes got enough money to control anything they want.

for real tho i want to know why the fuck they are spraying nano particles like crazy in grids east to west right before the hurricane

are these nano particles antennae that can be controlled via satelite or navy program? my buddy in the navy says its part of an advanced radar defense system but im not buying that shit... The whitehouse says its to curb global warming... so who the fuck is telling the truth??? what are these assholes spraying??? and what can we do to stop them

This I would be genuinely interested in seeing.

 

[unspoken]

I was thinking something like this:

http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/

#1000 post

That guy is a scam artist, through and through.

He makes wild claims and will consistently fail to deliver. Then he will blame government for suppressing him while asking for more of your money. Science is too stupid to grasp his ideas, and the only people that can help the world are the special believers such as yourself who will open your heart and your wallet in the name of "real" progress. If this guy was for real wouldn't tptb have disappeared him a long time ago? Maybe had a ninja give him a freemason token and tell him he could hand over his tech or die?

 

[trichrider]

Who did I call names? I have been posting in this thread a lot, so maybe I did and don't remember, but I don't think I've called anyone names. Conspiracy theorist, yeah, but I backed that up with a dictionary definition. I don't see that as being an inherently bad thing. We both know some conspiracy theories have been right over the years. Most of the evidence I've seen in this thread has been conjecture at best. That last video from trichrider started out promising until it ended with an angry preacher yelling at me about science he does not even understand. He shows a hole punch cloud and calls it a "haarp cloud."

no conspiracy theorist is gonna be hurt by this. heard it too many times...that and the tin hat thingy. childish but not unexpected, and unspoken i wasn't referring to you. you have been patient and persistent at the same time and that requires some discipline. take what you will from each of the posts i made...they are connected.

The government didn't create global warming, mother nature did. As for trusting the government, where did I ever say that I trusted the government? In fact there is a post by me, further up this page where I said that just because I don't believe in these conspiracy theories doesn't mean I trust the government. That's okay though I know you don't really try and understand what people are saying. You just look to see if it seems like they're disagreeing with you and if so you start making riddiculous assertions that aren't even related to the topic.

So you consider the daily mail to be the beacon of truth huh? Wow I guess next you'll be telling us big foot is real because you saw a story about it in the National Enquirer?

even the Enquirer has true stories so what is your point?

It's only derogatory if the person it's directed at is a critical thinker. Just because you say there are secret societies controlling things and playing a smoke and mirrors game with the general public doesn't mean you're correct or a critical thinker.

oh!!! that explains your attitude. really now...

Notice around 1950 on the time axis. The thick lines with anthropogenic(man made) and natural forcing (volcanoes, changes in the sun, natural cycle) go up and the thin lines (without anthropogenic forcing) go down. Basically different models that use different input parameters compared with each other. The thing you would want to pay attention to is the distance between the thick and thin lines of the same colors, as this attempts to distinguish between man made and natural change in climate.

Also, since you don't have any training in science I'm going to say this... These are models. This is only our approximation. I guess my opinion is this. We attempt to treat the earth better, reduce things that to the best of our collective knowledge harm the earth (read harm us...the earth will be just fine), protect our water and air, and waste less. The payoff is that some things become more expensive, like gas in california compared to texas or the cost of operating a coal burning power plant. Unfortunately this ripples into a lot of other things like plastics. This extra cost to manufacturers is then shared with consumers. These things becoming more expensive is where the conspiracy aspect comes in. It's also why a lot of conservatives are so against the idea of climate change. They see it as the govt. making a lot of things more expensive without justification (if man indeed does not affect the climate).

I think the real bottom line of that daily mail article that was posted is that climate change might be happening slower than we previously thought. This is good news. To me it means that we have more time to act, but we shouldn't start thinking this means we don't need to worry about it anymore. All of you guys believing in haarp believe in chaos theory, right? How could you believe that haarp is capable of such changes but the collective consumption of humanity shitting all over the earth is not?

i'm not trying to dispute AGW. this was never about that...it is about weather manipulation. a fact i have tried to establish with nothing but misdirection and denial. yes i said it...denial.

all the drama when all we are trying to do is converse.

Meteorologist all over the WORLD are saying that the storm was geoengineered.

1 week prior to the hurricane (that i didnt know was coming till last minute) i had noticed CRAZY gridding going on in the sky which lead me to think that "they are doin something up there" so within a week a hurricane comes up the coast and slams into jersey. and i saw with my own eyes those cocksuckers grid the sky to (what looked like)control the direction of the storm. they did this all over coastal maine week prior to storm. If you think the Rockefellers are going to let bar harbor get hit by a bad storm haha yea right them dudes got enough money to control anything they want.

for real tho i want to know why the fuck they are spraying nano particles like crazy in grids east to west right before the hurricane

are these nano particles antennae that can be controlled via satelite or navy program? my buddy in the navy says its part of an advanced radar defense system but im not buying that shit... The whitehouse says its to curb global warming... so who the fuck is telling the truth??? what are these assholes spraying??? and what can we do to stop them

tell your buddy to step up. anyway, the idea of this monster storm, predicted in advance, was somehow guided would be a major blow to the gov. of course it can't be said...it's just too outrageous; but it's not improbable.
check this gem out and tell me the government is incapable of this subject.(directing the storm inland).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RXPJmqkxmI&feature=related

just watch it.

Food? Is that free too?

like we are free.

 

[trichrider]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETM

unspoken, is this the same as the second thermal maximum?

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20120014329

onset.

 

[trichrider]

New research challenges the generally accepted belief that substantial ice sheets could not have existed on Earth during past super-warm climate events. The study by researchers at Scripps Institution of Oceanography at UC San Diego provides strong evidence that a glacial ice cap, about half the size of the modern day glacial ice sheet, existed 91 million years ago during a period of intense global warming. This study offers valuable insight into current day climate conditions and the environmental mechanisms for global sea level rise.



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The new study in the Jan. 11 issue of the journal Science titled, "Isotopic Evidence for Glaciation During the Cretaceous Supergreenhouse," examines geochemical and sea level data retrieved from marine microfossils deposited on the ocean floor 91 million years ago during the Cretaceous Thermal Maximum. This extreme warming event in Earth's history raised tropical ocean temperatures to 35-37°C (95-98.6°F), about 10°C (18°F) warmer than today, thus creating an intense greenhouse climate.

 

[trichrider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8&feature=related

 

[Suspect]

unspoken: I also googled 'Keshe foundation a scam' and the first page has identical wording to what you said about not "delivering".
Is that something you do without looking deeper into anything..?

I don't know what the foundation is asking but atleast they claim to have send USB sticks to governments areound the world with the blueprints for all their inventions FOR FREE.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/download/file.php?id=42

"USA has joined as latest. I hope the European countries will follow soon!!!!!!!
That PEACE and PROSPERITY FOR ALL PEOPLE may be the result as is Keshe's wish by his transfer to the USA:

We are proud to announce that today 15.11.2012 the Nation of United States of America has received the USB stick containing all patents and blueprints of nuclear reactor plasma spaceship technology of the Keshe Foundation.

We welcome our American brothers in the family of the Keshe Foundations’ spaceship program and surely we will reach new horizons with the addition of American government and NASA to our family.


Note

Following My letter offering as a gift the spaceship program to the ambassador of USA in Belgium in late October, on the 6.11.2012 at 3.45 pm I was in receipt of an e-mail in response to this friendly offer from the USA embassy in Brussels.

The content of the e-mail from the embassy confirmed that USA is ready to accept the gift of the nuclear reactor plasma spaceship technology of the Keshe Foundation and in return e-mails immediately the date was agreed as was suggested by the embassy.

Today 15.11.2012 at 3pm at the appointed place the director of the Keshe Foundation and the senior officer of the US embassy met in a friendly and cordially manner and the spaceship technology USB stick was handed over to the government of United States of America.

We have offered the US and NASA our full support for their development and deployment of this technology.

With this meeting and exchange of nuclear technology we hope to bring to an end the lasting apparent animosity between the two nations.

We shall build on this progress to bring peace into space for all nations.

I as the director of the Keshe Foundation and an Iranian nuclear scientist, I thank His Excellency president Obama for ordering such a move by his embassy.

In our meeting we have reached and extended the hand of peace from our side to His nation and I hope this will be reciprocated the same by his Excellency president Obama, now that borders have become meaningless with deployment of this new spaceship program and technology.

I thank the American ambassador His Excellency Mr. Gutman for this most gracious move and I am sure the first steps towards peace between two nations as is the wish of Iran has come to take shape.

With Kindest regards to all men of peace

M T Keshe
The director of the Keshe Foundation"


The Keshe Foundation is fully aware of the Keshe Foundation scam at scam.com.
This forum has been opened by Mr Kumaran Sanmugathasan who goes on many internet forums, discrediting the Foundation. He is known under different names (Kumsan, Kosol, Kazan, Spawn2, etc). He has admitted to us that he suffers from schizophrenia.



http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/introduction/warning

 

[Suspect]

That guy is a scam artist, through and through.

He makes wild claims and will consistently fail to deliver. Then he will blame government for suppressing him while asking for more of your money. Science is too stupid to grasp his ideas, and the only people that can help the world are the special believers such as yourself who will open your heart and your wallet in the name of "real" progress. If this guy was for real wouldn't tptb have disappeared him a long time ago? Maybe had a ninja give him a freemason token and tell him he could hand over his tech or die?

I have opened my heart to help the world yes and btw what made you think I have helped the truth movement with money, are you trying to make an insult again? Special Believer? Btchplz..

You..
I know people of your kind..

 

[HempKat]

Okay Hempcat your first statement the the Gov didn't creat global warming is so WRONG!!! lol..Bra how do you think Global Warming is started? It's started by OUR GOV allowing too many emmisions into the atmosphere through industry! Not changing the cars to electic not stopping the factories because they made so much money from them!
It's these emmisions that have put holes in the ozone layers hence the Global warming of this earth!
headband 707

Sorry headband but I've seen no substantial proof that Global Warming is caused by those things. I have seen however evidence for core samplings of the earth and the polar ice caps that does clearly show there were warming trends and ice ages, multiple times before man let alone before the industrial age when all the things you say caused global warming first came into play.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying those things don't contribute and I'm definately not saying we don't need to worry about those emissions. I'm just saying that even if we could stop all of those emissions tomorrow it wouldn't stop global warming.

 

[Suspect]

Undulatus asperatus

HAARP/chemtrails affecting clouds?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undulatus_asperatus

 

[HempKat]

Who did I call names? I have been posting in this thread a lot, so maybe I did and don't remember, but I don't think I've called anyone names. Conspiracy theorist, yeah, but I backed that up with a dictionary definition. I don't see that as being an inherently bad thing. We both know some conspiracy theories have been right over the years. Most of the evidence I've seen in this thread has been conjecture at best. That last video from trichrider started out promising until it ended with an angry preacher yelling at me about science he does not even understand. He shows a hole punch cloud and calls it a "haarp cloud."

You didn't he was refering to me, I called him the Grand Exalted Tin Hat of the Loyal Order of Tin Hats. To him that's name calling, even though in a more recent post he said he expects that. He also seems to overlook his own hand at name calling where he tells people they are sheep or that they're brain washed simply because they choose not to agree with his opinions.

 

[Suspect]

Epic Fail

Epic Fail

Epic fail in reading my previous posts Hempkat, you're mixing me with someone else, only thing you got right is I said you need in-depth brainunwashing.

 

[HempKat]

even the Enquirer has true stories so what is your point?

Yeah and even a poor man has money but it doesn't mean he's rich.

oh!!! that explains your attitude. really now...

Yes really. if someone says there is a group of people working together against everyone else then that is a conspiracy, correct? If someone believes this even though they have no real hard evidence just speculation and opinion then guess what that's a theory of a conspiracy. So to call this person a conspiracy theorist is not an insult, it's an accurate description. Apparently though you and others who have no problem calling everyone who disagrees with you sheeple and other clearly insulting or derogatory terms, seem to feel the label Conspiracy Theorist is insulting. How is it insulting? Are you not suggesting it's a conspiracy? That a group of people (aka TPTB) are working together against everyone else? Isn't it a theory since you have no hard factual evidence just the opinions of people with legitimate sounding titles posing as experts that have been demonstrated time and time again to be pushing nothing more then their belief of what is true? Then you pat yourself on the back and call yourselves a critical thinker simply because you believe you are right and everyone else is wrong.

i'm not trying to dispute AGW. this was never about that...it is about weather manipulation. a fact i have tried to establish with nothing but misdirection and denial. yes i said it...denial.

Well rather then trying to establish it with misdirection and denial maybe you should try actually presenting facts to establish your fact. And by that I don't mean point to cloud seeding and say, "See, we can manipulate weather."

 

[Suspect]

Yeah and even a poor man has money but it doesn't mean he's rich.



Yes really. if someone says there is a group of people working together against everyone else then that is a conspiracy, correct? If someone believes this even though they have no real hard evidence just speculation and opinion then guess what that's a theory of a conspiracy. So to call this person a conspiracy theorist is not an insult, it's an accurate description. Apparently though you and others who have no problem calling everyone who disagrees with you sheeple and other clearly insulting or derogatory terms, seem to feel the label Conspiracy Theorist is insulting. How is it insulting? Are you not suggesting it's a conspiracy? That a group of people (aka TPTB) are working together against everyone else? Isn't it a theory since you have no hard factual evidence just the opinions of people with legitimate sounding titles posing as experts that have been demonstrated time and time again to be pushing nothing more then their belief of what is true? Then you pat yourself on the back and call yourselves a critical thinker simply because you believe you are right and everyone else is wrong.

Can you give me some example of proof you need to be even a little convinced TPTB are working together against everyone else?

This has to certainly weigh something:

"The idea that a few bankers control a large chunk of the global economy might not seem like news to New York's Occupy Wall Street movement and protesters elsewhere (see photo). But the study, by a trio of complex systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, is the first to go beyond ideology to empirically identify such a network of power. It combines the mathematics long used to model natural systems with comprehensive corporate data to map ownership among the world's transnational corporations (TNCs)."

"Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market," says James Glattfelder. "Our analysis is reality-based."

"When the team further untangled the web of ownership, it found much of it tracked back to a "super-entity" of 147 even more tightly knit companies - all of their ownership was held by other members of the super-entity - that controlled 40 per cent of the total wealth in the network. "In effect, less than 1 per cent of the companies were able to control 40 per cent of the entire network," says Glattfelder. Most were financial institutions. The top 20 included Barclays Bank, JPMorgan Chase & Co, and The Goldman Sachs Group."

http://www.newscientist.com/article...e-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

 

[headband 707]

Hmmm, free.

What is free?

First you must ask what is cost, or input.

Yes, the sun sends down energy. Scientifically it's not free, it took resources and a nuclear reaction. But ok for arguments sake, it didn't cost us anything to get it here.

Ok, now how do we harvest this "free" energy?

That brings me to earth, and it's inhabitants.

Mans labor!

The most important resource of all, for without our labor, only the plants would be harvesting the suns "free" energy.

Ahhh, but that poses a problem. If mans labor is needed to build the equipment, transport, design, maintain, advance etc who pays?

Nothing is free.

LOL Okay you have this wrong bra SUN energy like wind is free and has nothing to do with the nuclear industry.
It's how we harness the power that cost money and even that should not cost us what they have come up with .No doubt that our whole way of looking at this and collecting cash has slanted them from doing the RIGHT THING!!!
One more thing for you to think about ..We have found this free energy and we are still being charged threw the teeth for it.It's not like our Govs don't have enough money to impliment these changes they just make too much cash off of you to do so....Hempcat this post is also for you...lol.....

Opponents believe that nuclear power poses many threats to people and the environment.[9][10][11] These threats include the problems of processing, transport and storage of radioactive nuclear waste, the risk of nuclear weapons proliferation and terrorism, as well as health risks and environmental damage from uranium mining.[140][141] They also contend that reactors themselves are enormously complex machines where many things can and do go wrong; and there have been serious nuclear accidents.[142][143] Critics do not believe that the risks of using nuclear fission as a power source can be fully offset through the development of new technology. They also argue that when all the energy-intensive stages of the nuclear fuel chain are considered, from uranium mining to nuclear decommissioning, nuclear power is neither a low-carbon nor an economical electricity source.[144][145][146]
Arguments of economics and safety are used by both sides of the debate.

However, even in the U.S. and throughout Europe, investment in research and in the nuclear fuel cycle has continued, and some nuclear industry experts[165] predict electricity shortages, fossil fuel price increases, global warming and heavy metal emissions from fossil fuel use, new technology such as passively safe plants, and national energy security will renew the demand for nuclear power plants.


Damn we are a stupid wasteful race of idiots!!!
We have the Sun and Wind and still we rape the earth and poison her with this bullshit all because of cash ffs !!!
WHAT IS NUCLEAR POWER? Nuclear power is an alternative power source that uses the nuclear fission of uranium to create heat .headband 707

 

[trichrider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h1Zwv4cis8&feature=related

 

[unspoken]

can you show me his invention working? and actually the best discussion I saw about it was on a conspiracy theorist website. I just have this b.s. alarm in my head that says "if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is." He wouldn't be the first free energy scammer. I will surely eat crow if he demonstrates the device working as advertised and allows other physicists to analyze the working machine. Until then I'm calling b.s. That is all.

 

[Suspect]

can you show me his invention working? and actually the best discussion I saw about it was on a conspiracy theorist website. I just have this b.s. alarm in my head that says "if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is." He wouldn't be the first free energy scammer. I will surely eat crow if he demonstrates the device working as advertised and allows other physicists to analyze the working machine. Until then I'm calling b.s. That is all.

Guilty until proven innocent.

So the military complex has advanced technology on paper but in reality nothing until they've shown you how they work?

I'm not either believing this thing blindly but if there was free energy devices, TPTB would not be pushing them technologies, it would probably start at the grassroot level tbh.

 

[trichrider]

can you show me his invention working? and actually the best discussion I saw about it was on a conspiracy theorist website. I just have this b.s. alarm in my head that says "if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is." He wouldn't be the first free energy scammer. I will surely eat crow if he demonstrates the device working as advertised and allows other physicists to analyze the working machine. Until then I'm calling b.s. That is all.

fair enough, but unfortunately no. i been scouring everything i can find and no one seems to have a working example.
had i any means this would be my avenue of interest. the fact that electric power/energy now is controlled and regulated(taxed) precludes interest (by tptb) to develop...and it's in their interest not to.
have some interest in electrical engineering/physics? give the theory a go...it sounds feasible and wouldn't suprise me to find it works.
Tesla was no scammer. died destitute because he was destroyed by monied mutherpluckers. to this day his genius is denied. take a minnit to look at some of his accomplishments...
many examples of his work being plagerized...