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glad to see ya back 
your computer illustrations are top notch
gl anti
your computer illustrations are top notch
gl anti
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Rebirth of .\nti
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DaveTheNewbie
I also feel this is a major part of your growing success, need the disco ball !
RomulusUSA
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@Jamorg - Yep, SketchUp.
@Anti - Hang in there sir. I'm lookin forward to the next grow. And like other said, I'd stay clear of partners. My best friends help me with my little grow (construction, trimming, feeding when I'm out of town, etc), but I am the sole financier and they are just the help. We enjoy this type of thing, so they don't even expect a return for helping, but of course I do extend them some benefits.
@Anti - Hang in there sir. I'm lookin forward to the next grow. And like other said, I'd stay clear of partners. My best friends help me with my little grow (construction, trimming, feeding when I'm out of town, etc), but I am the sole financier and they are just the help. We enjoy this type of thing, so they don't even expect a return for helping, but of course I do extend them some benefits.
Welcome back Man!!! You where missed. Good luck in the future.
Glad to see ya back!
My investor is one of the two people who knew about my last grow (the other is my ex). We have known each other for a decade and supported each other through many things in the past.
My choices are #1 - work with investor, have a place to live, get immediately back to growing
or
Choice #2 - I'm broke, no car, no job, no money, no place to sleep. Choice #2 would see me hitchhiking to Colorado or Washington to find people who want a consultant to setup their "legal" grows.
Working with my investor friend will allow me to stay in place, have heat during the winter and get my grow to a level it never got when I was restricted by my (non-smoking) ex-girlfriend's paranoia.
I feel you guys on not having a partner, but i feel that at the moment it is the lesser of two evils.
In on this obviously.
Glad to be back! Thanks homies!
Damn, that blows. If my AK mamas don't survive the treatment for infestation (I've already hacked away more than half of each plant and sprayed 'em with miticide) I'll be in the same boat. I'm looking forward to being able to run different strains in my flip rooms (Monocropping each room to dial each strain in) for a little variety.
Thanks Bobble! The sketchup illustration in the first post has only 9" between the top of one tray and the bottom of the next. My fear was that with only 2 lamps in my stack that staggering the tiers a foot a part might limit me to only two tiers.
I would be very interested to hear opinions on this subject. (i.e. how tall/how many tiers can I reasonably put around a 2 bulb stack. How many if I add another 600w to make it a 3 bulb stack?
It's already been answered, but if I run 10 week strains and start the second flip room 5 weeks after the first, I will have a harvest coming every 5 weeks, for 10 harvests a year.
You guys are funny. =) Sketchup always throws a human figure into the model for scale, but I usually just delete it. Maybe I need to get laid.
Never fear, the disco ball has been mine for a LOT longer than the ex-girlfriend was. It will make an appearance again.
glad to see ya back
your computer illustrations are top notch
gl anti
Yes. Google Sketchup is a free download and very easy to use. I have some background in 3d animation using lightwave and truespace, but even for a beginner, it has tool tips that when you click on a given tool, it plays a quick flash animation that demonstrates how each tool works. Gets you up to speed very quickly.
Plus I really like the fact that I can draw a rectangle and then MANUALLY type in the dimensions that I want. So I can (for instance) make a rectangle and then type in 1.5,3.5 (real world dimensions of a 2x4) and it will automatically resize that rectangle to fit whatever I type in. Then I can use the "extrude" tool to make my 2x4 whatever length I want. When i get done building it in sketchup, I can measure my models to make a parts list and a cut list and I have a 3d model that I can look at from any angle while I'm building it in the real world.
I would estimate that I have already saved hundreds if not more simply because I 'build' many ideas that never make it to the real world because I discover limitations in the model.
My situation is very grim without my financier. I had spent all of my remaining money upgrading my setup in the ex-girlfriend's spot, and then I used what was left to take her on a nice vacation, and then we broke up, leaving me broke and homeless.
Without my financial partner, I would LITERALLY be on the street and my grow equipment would be in storage.
Thanks guys!
I'm curious what people use for filtration.
In my last space, my fan/filter combo were capable of exhausting the room about 1.75 times per minute.
In my new rooms, twice per minute will be the rule.
However, in an 8x8x6 room, I need 768 CFM extraction through a filter. From the math I've done, each room's fan/filter is going to cost about $450-500. (This is using a Can 100 Filter ~ $200 and a Can Max Fan 10 ~$250 which is rated at around 825 CFM pulling through a filter.)
If anybody has any suggestions how to do it better, cheaper or quieter, I'd love to hear them.
(My current Can 33 and fan will be used to de-stink the drying chamber when the time comes.)
forkup
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Tagged. The weed donut is a proven technique with many successes over the years. I'd run the big numbers if limits aren't a concern otherwise check out d9s ppks. They are flat killing it and they turn growing into boredom. Flip flops work well since smaller spaces are easier to dial in. Good luck with the new op and as the others have said get rid of the partner ASAP.
FunTimesIndeed
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I can't wait to see this one pan out. Good luck with your new arrangement.
Glad to see ya back anti!Hey bro, love the sketches.
You had mentioned you wanted some input regarding fan/filter combos. Go with the can100 fo sho.
In my 2K flower room, 5' x 8' x 7'ft tall, I rock a Can100 w/ a 10" Exhaust fan. For my intake, I have a 6" high output with a "Y" that splits into two 4" ducts(only 2ft long) and one duct goes into each flower room. As long as my Veg/lung room is below 75 degrees, my 2K flower room stays below 80 degrees. All last winter I didn't even have an intake, not even a passive hole, lol. That fan/filter combo is so powerful, it pulls plenty of cool air through, well the wood, I guess.
The other side is a 1200w vert, (2) stacked 600w, with a can66 with a 8" high output fan. With the same lung room temps(73-75) this combo fails to stay below 80 degrees, but never above 82.
The Can100 is the beeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzkneeeeez, but heavy as all fuck. Most definitely a 2 person job hanging this mothafuka.
rbdf
You had mentioned you wanted some input regarding fan/filter combos. Go with the can100 fo sho.
In my 2K flower room, 5' x 8' x 7'ft tall, I rock a Can100 w/ a 10" Exhaust fan. For my intake, I have a 6" high output with a "Y" that splits into two 4" ducts(only 2ft long) and one duct goes into each flower room. As long as my Veg/lung room is below 75 degrees, my 2K flower room stays below 80 degrees. All last winter I didn't even have an intake, not even a passive hole, lol. That fan/filter combo is so powerful, it pulls plenty of cool air through, well the wood, I guess.
The other side is a 1200w vert, (2) stacked 600w, with a can66 with a 8" high output fan. With the same lung room temps(73-75) this combo fails to stay below 80 degrees, but never above 82.
The Can100 is the beeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzkneeeeez, but heavy as all fuck. Most definitely a 2 person job hanging this mothafuka.
rbdf
Anti - Been really happy with my phresh filter (14x48) so far. Reviews are good, and they are generally a bit cheaper than a CAN filter. Supposed to weigh less also.... As for the light spread question, that has alot to due with how close your plants end up being to the bulb. As general rule of thumb using 600's in a vert setup (i.e octagon), 32-36" horizontally from bulb to the base of the plant is the "ideal" penetration depth. Vertical coverage at the same distance is about 36". That being said you can get away with ~56" of vertical coverage per bulb and still achieve decent results. For your setup I would design it so each bulb is covering no more 30" of vertical canopy. Three 600's stacked floor to ceiling in an 8' tall room is working very well for myself, bobble, gmax, and possibly others i'm forgetting off the top of my head.
Welcome back!
Thanks for taking the time to read my thread, and yes they are larger plants than you like, but I have circumstances out of my control. I know have more room than before and have been toying with the idea of a two tiered coli on wheels with 16 smaller plants rather than 6-8.
Keep us posted bro!
Thanks for taking the time to read my thread, and yes they are larger plants than you like, but I have circumstances out of my control. I know have more room than before and have been toying with the idea of a two tiered coli on wheels with 16 smaller plants rather than 6-8.
Keep us posted bro!
rbdf - bro, I cannot thank you enough for this post! This is exactly what I want, and I wish everybody would put this sort of info at the beginning of their own threads... because I search through threads looking for data like this and rarely find it!
THANK YOU!
If anybody else cares to (DHF, Bobble, Mister_D, etc.) I'd be interested in all the nitty gritty technical details. What you like and what you don't like.
Mister_D -I am following your thread, and I'm currently re-reading it filtering all posts by your name and I still haven't figured out the exact dimensions of your flowering room. =) I appreciate you taking the time to give your input. I KNOW you guys are all having success in these rooms with stacked 600s. That's why I'm going to do it, too. Just trying to make the best possible decisions in the design phase to avoid headaches and lost GPW in the soon-to-come reality phase.
I'll put up a revised sketch in just a few minutes with all relevant details.
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Hello everyone.
12 in Organic Air carbon filter [rated at 4000 cfm] mated to a 12 in fan [rated at 1140 cfm for exhaust. Filter looks like a giant k&n air filter. weighs 20 lbs. Cost for both was approx $420.00 from plantlightinghydroponics.com.
My room is 1370 cubic feet and located 20 miles from hell. This works good unless intake temps get over 85f. No a/c.
I had to redo my air circulation system because I was insufficiently gonzo the first time I built it.
Have a nice day. bg
12 in Organic Air carbon filter [rated at 4000 cfm] mated to a 12 in fan [rated at 1140 cfm for exhaust. Filter looks like a giant k&n air filter. weighs 20 lbs. Cost for both was approx $420.00 from plantlightinghydroponics.com.
My room is 1370 cubic feet and located 20 miles from hell. This works good unless intake temps get over 85f. No a/c.
I had to redo my air circulation system because I was insufficiently gonzo the first time I built it.
Have a nice day. bg
