what does science have to do with my yields?
Defoliation: Hi-Yield Technique?
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what does science have to do with my yields?
I don't care about how the growing plant looks as long as I get good final results.
Whaaaaaaa, ya fucking baby.
I hit 1gpkwh, which is what really matters. If you don't understand that, you sir, are mentally deficient.
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You have shown us all your very severe mental deficiency this page proves it some more like I have said before your like a baby having a tantrum it's time to grow up.
You talk of science yet know nothing of it because science is studying and experimenting to determine results the concept escapes you.
The countless people that have done this most keep doing it because it works.
Hey retard,
I've been saying this whole time defoliation is an effective pruning method.
While there are many much superior methods of pruning, defoliation works to modify plant shape no doubt.
But the thread is call "defoliation:high yield technique?"
To answer that, FUCK NO
Go check jackmayoffer's thread about aptus nutrients to see how you get high yields, dudes hitting 2.75 ponds per 1k with kush strains.
That is a high yield technique, now go fuck off, read and learn.
I've been saying this whole time defoliation is an effective pruning method.
While there are many much superior methods of pruning, defoliation works to modify plant shape no doubt.
But the thread is call "defoliation:high yield technique?"
To answer that, FUCK NO
Go check jackmayoffer's thread about aptus nutrients to see how you get high yields, dudes hitting 2.75 ponds per 1k with kush strains.
That is a high yield technique, now go fuck off, read and learn.
Your saying hes getting that because of nutes? Ima check his thread..
No, because he treats his plants right, blasts them with light, gives co2, has the environment dialed, doesn't defoliate, and in general knows what the fuck he is doing. Fucking 49# off of 20 lights!
Motherfuckers are retarded if they think defoliation is a "high yield" technique.
Useful pruning method in certain circumstances, absolutely, but that's it.
Edit: he does claim the nutes he uses might have set him over the edge, but idk how I feel about that, maybe for him those work but I think raw salts can get the same effect, unless there are pgr's in aptus.
Motherfuckers are retarded if they think defoliation is a "high yield" technique.
Useful pruning method in certain circumstances, absolutely, but that's it.
Edit: he does claim the nutes he uses might have set him over the edge, but idk how I feel about that, maybe for him those work but I think raw salts can get the same effect, unless there are pgr's in aptus.
Dude, just skimming that thread and I could positively see the bullshit dripping off this kid.. Environment, sure, it was dialed.. And one could say whatever they wanted online, its a beautiful thing, however, from the retail side of things, its just another new nutrient company claiming to be the best, so where is their base nutrient??
I call bullshit on buddy... I could of course be wrong, but it wasnt some "organic" nutrients, Perfect environments always yield, but holler at my boy bst if wanna see what can be done with simple nutes and a little ingenuity.. He spanks that dude... without co2 and gh nutes... I dont buy into anything I hear anymore...
It is noted that he used caps bennies, something I am a firm believer in...
ok so per his numbers, 15 plants per 1k light, 2.5# per light, 2.66oz per plant. Yup high yield nutrients, methods, etc thar.
Hey I'm not knocking his grow. Nor am I knocking his GPW which is in reality 1.13gpw. So, is he kickin the shit out of yield?
Should his grow be taken in the same context as this thread?
You know the thread where people have plant limitations, height limitations, wattage limitations?
Who is yielding more? K33f at 1.2gpw or jackmayoffer at 1.13gpw? Just wonderin.
Hey I'm not knocking his grow. Nor am I knocking his GPW which is in reality 1.13gpw. So, is he kickin the shit out of yield?
Should his grow be taken in the same context as this thread?
You know the thread where people have plant limitations, height limitations, wattage limitations?
Who is yielding more? K33f at 1.2gpw or jackmayoffer at 1.13gpw? Just wonderin.
St3ve what i am trying to get at is skinning a plant in any stage of its growth cycle is a no no leafs are little more important then you think . Now i can agree selective leaf removal can become a advantage you mention i can;t make it work in my garden st3ve i am getting just under 2.5 pounds per 1k light and until i see proven results of someone achieving more in the same allotted time frame i will never look at this crazy idea of defoilating / skinning a plant veg or flower.
Also it appears many do this to control height possibly having smaller rooms why not train plants to achieve lots of top buds rather then worrying about lower bud sites this would be by far more efficient ways of getting more yields per smaller space
It isn't? But you have .73gpw in your sig?
and um, the op is already beating jacks yield.
ok so gpw is irrelevant. So what is relevant? GPSqF?
k33f is getting 39.55 GPSqF,
Jack is getting 35.43 GPSqF.
Hmmm, k33f doesnt use CO2, no AC units, no $1800 nutrient package.
I think whodare just showed some interesting things. Most intelligent adults would probably notice right off the bat the difference in yield isn't measure by how fucking big of a room you got going. Just because someone has 300 plants in scrog yielding 50# doesnt mean he is a hi yielder. Yes, I give credit to jack for having a very nice, successful grow. But who is actually more efficient? The guy that is growing 1.2 gpw, 39.55 GPSqF, without the added costs of CO2, AC, and REALLY expensive nutrient, or Jack?
So what conclusion did I come too? I think Whodare is another one of those youngster knowitalls. Littered with ignorance in it's finest definition.
Oh, lest we forget, k33f is wearing out his fingernails defoliating.
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Oh wait, whodare, what matters again? What's irrelevant?
Dr.Fever, if you actually used periods at the end of sentences, comas where appropriate, your arguments would at least look more understandable. Above is not a real example, but I edited out to get to the point I want to make. I do however suggest you look back at a few of your posts. You might find some are not even comprehendible.
Now, to my point. Have you even looked once at op's 1st pic in first post? Does it in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER look like he is lacking in top buds? AND he's gaining more in useable LOWER bud!
Now, you're getting UNDER 1.13 gpw.
He's getting 1.2 GPW (and climbing he says but we havent seen the #'s)
Lets for a moment suppose flowering periods and strains are the same. Then his time frame is beating yours.
You will want to make the argument that his veg period is longer. Yet we should not forget, as whodare INSISTS to not accept, for k33f and many others, veg time plays no part in timeline because while ONE flower room is going, the veg room is set in motion and WAITS till flower room is again available. Not everyone has the luxury of 2 flower rooms, short veg, 1 harvest per month. An extremely important aspect of this perpetual that you will want to claim is that your plants will be smaller because of the reduced veg time before going into flower. I will argue that right now so you dont waste your time. You are growing HOW MANY PLANTS per veg? K33f is growing 6 plants in 4x8.
Grow only 6 plants, at 32" squared per plant, 28" high and get 10-12oz per plant, with a total wattage of 1400. Do it using your nondefoliated technique. Show your growing prowess and smash k33f's yield.
I invite you.
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Doc you claim to have done that but all your pictures are gone from that thread what are you hiding this wouldn't be the first or last time you've been caught making up numbers.
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bud????as i post pictures on ic my storage gets full so i delete from last pictures ever posted till i got room to place new pictures up , i only have one gallery in my ic folder section i am not into having 100's of folders or journal entries ,or more galleries more or less clicking on your name and seeing one gallery of your outdoor lol yet clicking on other journal entries you got nothing
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