LED Retailers...

[vukman]

just like I said..no matter what anyone says,,, you're going to believe what you want to believe..............good luck with that in life my friend....you'll get real far......

 

[Phychotron]

I tend to listen to what makes the most logical sense. Too early to tell how all this drama will play out. All in all it doesn't matter which manufacturer is building the light, as long as it is built to the correct specifications.

Does anyone know of any bad ass eShine grows? or of anyone who actually got more than the 6 band that they make?

 

[medmaker420]

vukman - The way I look at this is, why worry about what other people do with their money or what brand they support. If we focus on the negatives that is what will come so it is best to focus on everything that is positive and expect more positive to come your way.

Who cares which company sells who's lights and anyone who doesn't do their full research really shouldn't be an issue for you and your grow because it is their money and their grow. I would wish everyone the best and hope the grow light they bought performs well for them.

If eshine makes the lights then they are doing great for advanced and advanced customers and more power to them. Now there is always hype and lies with marketing so face value isn't everything BUT let everyone learn from their own decisions, mistakes and successes because we can't do it for them.

I tend to listen to what makes the most logical sense. Too early to tell how all this drama will play out. All in all it doesn't matter which manufacturer is building the light, as long as it is built to the correct specifications.

Does anyone know of any bad ass eShine grows? or of anyone who actually got more than the 6 band that they make?

look at my flower led light #2 and #3, if you look at the lights on pics in the video update you can see there are far more than the 6 band, not sure what all growblu had them put in there BUT the lights are performing great. I don't know anything specific though as I am not done with the first flowering cycle yet but they are growing great compared to all my previous hps grows so I am optimistic.

Did advanced/hydrogrow use eshine, sure, are they now? who really cares. If you are happy with your light and it is doing what you want it to do then who cares if it is a ford or chevy.

Looking at the advanced leds compared to eshine however look very similar however if anyone has an inside shot of one that would be great because we can actually see IF they are infact the same or not. I have eshine inner pics posted in my grow journal btw to compare if anyone with an advanced panel wants to know.

I would also love to see a pic of the inside of a hydro grow or any other panel that LOOK like the bysens, eshines and apollos of the world.

 

[rives]

Who cares which company sells who's lights and anyone who doesn't do their full research really shouldn't be an issue for you and your grow because it is their money and their grow. I would wish everyone the best and hope the grow light they bought performs well for them.

If eshine makes the lights then they are doing great for advanced and advanced customers and more power to them. Now there is always hype and lies with marketing so face value isn't everything BUT let everyone learn from their own decisions, mistakes and successes because we can't do it for them.

Did advanced/hydrogrow use eshine, sure, are they now? who really cares. If you are happy with your light and it is doing what you want it to do then who cares if it is a ford or chevy.

I couldn't disagree more. The continuation of predatory marketing does nothing but impede the progress of LED development. Taking advantage of people, many of whom can ill afford it, pisses me off. I've been pursuing this heavily now for several years, and have both purchased commercial products and built my own, have an electronic background, and still get confused by the bullshit and rhetoric from the peddlers and feather merchants. How do you expect someone with no background or that much time on their hands to sift through the crap without some input from the people who have been there?

 

[medmaker420]

I couldn't disagree more. The continuation of predatory marketing does nothing but impede the progress of LED development. Taking advantage of people, many of whom can ill afford it, pisses me off. I've been pursuing this heavily now for several years, and have both purchased commercial products and built my own, have an electronic background, and still get confused by the bullshit and rhetoric from the peddlers and feather merchants. How do you expect someone with no background or that much time on their hands to sift through the crap without some input from the people who have been there?

Does this same anger sit with hps ballast and light manufacturers as well or just leds? Just seeing if you have a "one issue" opinion with leds or just marketing hype in general issues.

Why would you need an electronic background OR be a pro at DIY projects to grow weed or buy a light? I think you are overcomplicating this for zero reason. Some buy based on brand, price, color, hype and a million other reasons and there are plenty of reviews, opinions and rants for those who do the RESEARCH before buying and like I said above, if they didn't do the research then they learned their own lesson.

If advanced or any led company sells a terrible grow light it will come out in the forums, the review sites etc and they will end up closing up shop due to a lack of sales. There are many many marijuana growers however who have never looked at or joined a growing forum and just went and bought a light based on whatever reasoning they see fit and no one needs to know how to wire a diy led panel together to buy anything.

 

[rives]

Does this same anger sit with hps ballast and light manufacturers as well or just leds? Just seeing if you have a "one issue" opinion with leds or just marketing hype in general issues.

Why would you need an electronic background OR be a pro at DIY projects to grow weed or buy a light? I think you are overcomplicating this for zero reason. Some buy based on brand, price, color, hype and a million other reasons and there are plenty of reviews, opinions and rants for those who do the RESEARCH before buying and like I said above, if they didn't do the research then they learned their own lesson.

If advanced or any led company sells a terrible grow light it will come out in the forums, the review sites etc and they will end up closing up shop due to a lack of sales. There are many many marijuana growers however who have never looked at or joined a growing forum and just went and bought a light based on whatever reasoning they see fit and no one needs to know how to wire a diy led panel together to buy anything.

I'm not fond of marketing hype in any of it's manifestations, but I have never seen an HID manufacturer touting ridiculous claims about power equivalency, etc. LEDs are a relatively new technology, at least as related to growing, and there isn't a broad-based understanding of them yet. A 400 watt HPS lamp is very comparable to any other 400w HPS lamp - there may be subtle differences, but that is about the extent of it. That couldn't be less true of a 400w LED fixture - every parameter attached, whether it be power draw, spectrum, par value, actual power output, etc, etc, etc is completely non-standardized and a completely new and different language to most people, even experienced growers and long-time HID users.

If I have a bad experience with a product, I would prefer to pass that information along in order for someone else to avoid the same disappointment. Some people, I guess, would just as soon that others fell into the same trap. I don't understand the latter philosophy.

 

[tenthirty]

I couldn't disagree more. The continuation of predatory marketing does nothing but impede the progress of LED development. Taking advantage of people, many of whom can ill afford it, pisses me off. I've been pursuing this heavily now for several years, and have both purchased commercial products and built my own, have an electronic background, and still get confused by the bullshit and rhetoric from the peddlers and feather merchants. How do you expect someone with no background or that much time on their hands to sift through the crap without some input from the people who have been there?

It's an unfortunate state of affairs in the led grow light industry.
After building my own led fixtures and being able to compare them to Pro-grows and Solar flares,
It is highly unlikely that I will purchasing any factory built led luminaires any time soon.

Being a lazy stoner this really puts a crimp in my style.

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

Does anyone have a picture of the inside of an advanced led grow light?

yup...extreme flower 180w model

 

[oneshot]

What's everyone's take on Kessil LED lights? I am thinking of getting 2 Magenta H150's to supplement my ES330.

Searched the thread but not much useful information came up.

 

[analogue]

I use a Kessil 350 (Magenta). It is very quiet and cool running.

 

[oneshot]

I use a Kessil 350 (Magenta). It is very quiet and cool running.

I ended up getting 2 HGL 21x's. 90 day 'hassle free' money back guarantee if I don't like them.

I am really eyeing the Lumigrow Pro 650 though. Been talking to a rep all day.

 

[rives]

I ended up getting 2 HGL 21x's. 90 day 'hassle free' money back guarantee if I don't like them.

I am really eyeing the Lumigrow Pro 650 though. Been talking to a rep all day.

I've always been a Lumigrow advocate, but I can't see that 650 working very well. It's basically the same size enclosure as the ES330, which already had enough power to zorch the plants immediately underneath it, and rapidly ran out of power around the periphery of the "core area". I think that lower wattage units spread around more is the way to go, but maybe they've got something up their sleeve. Please keep us posted.

 

[oneshot]

I just need to mimic what I wrote in my grow journal thread. I just got done talking with https://growershouse.com on the phone. These guys know the LED market and are HONEST. I ordered a Kessil H350 from them to supplement the light in the tent.

It's a family run business in AZ. Awesome to talk to and very knowledgeable. Please give them your business if you are thinking of getting an LED or any other product. They are a full hydro store.

EDIT: I've been working with them more and more and they have made a 10% off coupon for my youtube subscribers and I can extend it here. If you guys want to order, use ONESHOTLED as a coupon and you will get 10% off anything. I get no kickbacks or anything from this. They are just expanding their marketing methods and my youtube is sort of a test for them

 

[GP73LPC]

haven't updated in a while, sorry bout that...

anyway, i have added the following to the spreadsheets.


1. AgroMax LED Strip Light - Tri-Band

2. Super Grow LED

3. All GROWBLU products (19 arrays)


new spreadsheets uploaded and available in the OP...


i wanted to add all 21 of the Bysen arrays, but cannot find the pricing info on their website...

if anyone has this info please post it. in the meantime, i will email them...

if anyone has some other Retailers that need to be added, please bump this thread with the name of the retailer...



also, i just saw the LumiBulbs... will get those in the next update.

thanks

 

[oneshot]

Might have to add some more to the list

Company called illumitex (http://www.illumitex.com/led-horticulture-fixtures/) is making this new line of LED lights called NeoSol apparently. Making commercial grade lights. They have a 3' strip light and a 300w panel. They seem like the dream panels that we have been talking about on these boards.

https://growershouse.com/neosol-50w-led-plant-grow-light

Their 300w panel sounds awesome:
ADJUSTABLE strips of LED light rails built into the light!!!
Ultra-precision beam control
Adjustable beam angle
54 Illumitex Surexi F3 LEDs
Lightweight and completely silent
No cooling fans
Thin profile
http://www.hydrofarm.com/downloads/fc/bro_NeoSolNS_5116.pdf
https://growershouse.com/neosol-300w-led-plant-grow-light

Might talk to someone in getting one for testing purposes

 

[GP73LPC]

thanks for the headsup one shot..

added to my list for the next update

 

[joejusttyped]

Any one run these Spectra LED panels from http://new.spectraledgrowlights.com/ ?? Ts the new growledhydro brand. Peace

 

[GP73LPC]

i will add the Spectra too...

thanks joe

 

[rootidec]

hi all, found this on digitimes (legit magazine btw)

led prices drop in 2013, from taiwanese manufacturers
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20121122PD216.html
hope it's relevant and not old... bye y'all!

 

[GP73LPC]

thanks rootidec...

falling prices are good news indeed...