ERR... UNFLUSHED CANNABIS ...CONTAINING CHEMICAL COMPOUNDS FROM THE FERTILIZER.SAFE?!

[Hydro-Soil]

Does this also make better tasting tomatoes w/flushing? Would those have more vitamins as well in a lab test?

I can often tell when the celery at grocery stores was nuted too strongly... yes. Cucumbers is another veggie that I've noticed it in occasionally. Definitely notice the difference in my own gardens.

More vitamins? No, just additional non-used nutes.

I use Maxibloom or GH Flora, in lucas ratio/concentrations so I don't dump my res the entire run. Saves a lot of water and a bit of nutes. I basically 'fade' as the term goes, topping off with plain water the last 2-3 weeks... unless using a medium that retains nutes. Mediums I'll use plain water the last 2-3 weeks, depending. (Edit: When the nutes you're using are 'balanced' for what cannabis will normally eat... it's more difficult to burn plants, they'll uptake more and they don't leave elements behind to build up to toxic level. Main reason nute companies advise dumping their imbalanced nute profiles every 2 weeks. Standard dogma now.)

Makes a serious difference. Again... for good or ill, I can taste, smell and feel stuff that 90% of the people I come in contact are oblivious to. So... most of the folks around you might not notice as much of a difference. Understandable.

Stay Safe!

Stay Safe!

 

[S_a_H]

I have been wondering about this myself lately. I have a buddy who over nuted and burned the shit out of it let it go a week and harvested. His buds when burned snapped sparkled and crackled and continued to do after removing the flame. It kind of reminded of the 4th of July fireworks called "Snakes" when you put flame to it they snapped and crackled when burning.

S_a_H

 

[supermanlives]

hey man i have noticed weird tastes from cukes when overfed too. it aint just you. and after reading homebrewers post i now crave a cuban cigar.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Hydro,
So you've seen lab tests that show quality is higher in a bud that has had its PPMs "dwindled down" over the course of 2 weeks vs. the same bud/plant that has been given 1330ppm (never overfed) until its chop date? How was "higher quality" determined.. thc content and the a like?

And in different tasting celery and cucumbers, how do you know what you are tasting to conclude that it was "extra nutes" vs. pesticides or something else which may have been done to it in its process in landing in the grocery store? Seems like there would be lots of variables to take into account.

What exactly are you tasting to conclude that it is from the nutes vs. other potential factors?

 

[supermanlives]

green weed blows. it cant compare to weed that was given a so called flush. havent smoked a green plant in years till my organic soil mix made a sb green till chop. result is substandard weed in my opinion. i dont know about a diff in potency between the 2. i bet the diff is negligible

 

[Homebrewer]

green weed blows. it cant compare to weed that was given a so called flush. havent smoked a green plant in years till my organic soil mix made a sb green till chop. result is substandard weed in my opinion. i dont know about a diff in potency between the 2. i bet the diff is negligible

I'd humbly disagree. Overfed plants with poorly cured flowers yields substandard meds. IMO, if one thinks they need to 'flush', one either didn't feed correctly or failed to manage a healthy medium.

 

[supermanlives]

thats why i said so called flush . its plain water last weeks. to each their own . green weed blows. looks good in pictures dont smoke as well as ugly plants.

 

[growbread]

I've had some unflushed local organic soil product that taste great, just seems like heavier smoke.

I use chem salt fertilizers lately and there's no way I would go without a flush. Big difference.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

Yeah...you can totally taste the difference. Also, unflushed weed doesn't burn properly...and will not stay lit. A good flush will ensure that your herb tastes the best it can taste...and it burns right. A nice white ash at the bottom of the bowl is what you should see. If you don't see it....I would start flushing a minimum of 2 weeks with RO water. Tap water sucks for flushing.

Cheers

TpM

 

[Iffy-Caradoc]

OK so here is the thing... I've been wondering ... WTF WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU AND YOUR BODY ETC..., IF... YOU SMOKE CANNABIS THAT IS NOT PROPERLY FLUSHED FROM THE BAD COMPONENTS CAUSED BY FEEDING THE PLANT.. LETS SAY... CHEMICAL FERTILIZER...

WHAT ARE THE RISKS???? IF ANYONE KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT THIS SUBJECT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, THANKS !!!

LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE REPLIES!! ~(SHITS INTERESTING

Unflushed bud always gives me a raging headache. If you read the blurb put out by the companies that produce the flushing chemicals, you could certainly assume they aren't doing you much good! Does something to me for sure.
I use Final Phase to flush all my bud and then just filtered water for ten days. The plant starves to death & draws back a lot of the nutes. Makes a lovely smooth smoke. Not so good if your planning to re-veg in my experience (not the final phase) the ten days of just water.
Stay safe

 

[Jbonez]

This is of course always a sensitive subject, but I am one of those growers that feeds till the chop.

Dont get me wrong, I started growing at one point, and I flushed all the time as per every growers advice I came across.

But the whole black ash thing got me.. You know when weed hasnt been dried properly when it leaves a dark ash, burns funny..

On dried, unflushed buds, the results are the same as they have ever been, and the same thing that happens to most dried plant matter, it turns white.

Of course Im a positively out of my mind looney who doesnt have fuckall a clue about growing because I dont flush, right?

yea yea...

Id say roughly 10% of growers can actually dry correctly and cure their product, rushing it only nets shit smoke... Where I believe the flushing bullshit is mixed into...

Please dont crucify me, Ive personally never seen the benefits of flushing.. But that is a subjective statement, dont read into to much lol..

 

[supermanlives]

everyone is entitled to their opinion .

 

[frito bandito]

Ok folks heres one for ya, I got some Bubblegum plants in flower now which were grown perfectly except fertilized a bit too long and heavy, not to the point of burning, but to where the plant was mostly swollen up before I started flushing, so the leaves are remaining medium green and not fading out yellow like I prefer to see. So assuming I have fed straight water for around 7-10 days...and I chop the plant, then cure and dry it 100% properly....will the finished bud turn out OK? I got one nug chopped off and drying now so within about two days I will have a definitive answer to this, but I'm curious to see what your various theories may predict...

 

[frito bandito]

BTW I normally get white ash and perfect burn on my buds, but I usually fade the plants better than I did these.

 

[supermanlives]

my green not overfertizised plant is ok and ash burns clean . but it could be better tasting and a bit smoother like its babies flowered in 16 0z cups. i can tell the diff easilly.

 

[Stonefree69]

Ok folks heres one for ya, I got some Bubblegum plants in flower now which were grown perfectly except fertilized a bit too long and heavy, not to the point of burning, but to where the plant was mostly swollen up before I started flushing, so the leaves are remaining medium green and not fading out yellow like I prefer to see. So assuming I have fed straight water for around 7-10 days...and I chop the plant, then cure and dry it 100% properly....will the finished bud turn out OK? I got one nug chopped off and drying now so within about two days I will have a definitive answer to this, but I'm curious to see what your various theories may predict...

Well if the ash does turn black then that would say flushing 7-10 days (just water) has no effect on ash color but plant color/how you fed it @ end may determine that. Is the water tap or RO? The plants would be getting some nutes just from the ppm in tap water, especially 300 ppm or so.

I'd say if you grew it right then ash and taste should still be OK when cured properly.

 

[supermanlives]

theres ok and aaa . i dont like ok. lol carry on

 

[Iffy-Caradoc]

Ok folks heres one for ya, I got some Bubblegum plants in flower now which were grown perfectly except fertilized a bit too long and heavy, not to the point of burning, but to where the plant was mostly swollen up before I started flushing, so the leaves are remaining medium green and not fading out yellow like I prefer to see. So assuming I have fed straight water for around 7-10 days...and I chop the plant, then cure and dry it 100% properly....will the finished bud turn out OK? I got one nug chopped off and drying now so within about two days I will have a definitive answer to this, but I'm curious to see what your various theories may predict...

I think JBonez makes a good point, correct drying & curing are vital but I can always tell when I smoke unflushed gear. It's not just the smell/taste either, it's about the silent, insiduous damage these chemicals MIGHT be doing to us. If you can remove them without penalty, why ever not??
Looking forward to your report on that bubblegum tho.
Stay safe

 

[Jbonez]

Ive also concluded that sparks dancing around in the bowl are nothing other than non-expended flint particulates from your bic..

Magnesium, tho, when "wet" combined with heat, is sufficient for ignition, Im curious as to whether we would be able to even witness this event with the human eye however, but then again, Im more interested in theory, not the science that may or may not support it, nothing is absolute.

 

[Jbonez]

I think JBonez makes a good point, correct drying & curing are vital but I can always tell when I smoke unflushed gear. It's not just the smell/taste either, it's about the silent, insiduous damage these chemicals MIGHT be doing to us. If you can remove them without penalty, why ever not??
Looking forward to your report on that bubblegum tho.
Stay safe

Right on Iffy, I dont view mineral nutrients as "chemicals" tho, I find the stigma rather intimidating, lol..

As for without penalty? Not sure man, but Id say they fatten up nice when fed PROPERLY till the chop, not over not under and you could say Im not exactly a slouch bro, but you could say alot of things too lol...

Frito, what bubblegum cut is that? I have the indie, not the greatest yielder, but fire headies..