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Hi Cootz and icmag :biggrin:

Very interesting discussion in this thread, been up late reading it all night. I been growing organic for about a year now and just recently decided to make an organic coco coir mix a couple days ago actually.

Base: Roughly 50% Flushed Coco Coir, 25% local EWC, 25% perite
Amendments: Roughly 1 Tablespoon per gallon of Fish Bone, Crab, Kelp, Alfalfa Meals, Soft Rock Phosphate, Neem cake, 2 tablespoons per gallon of 'Garden' Lime, 3 tablespoons per gallon of 'Garden' Gypsum, random amount of Rock Dust (azomite type dust) and 1 tablespoon of Sul-Po-Mag for 5 gallons of soil. :laughing:

I also added on top of this for good measure an extra tablespoon of neem cake and crab shell to the whole mix which was only 6 g's. Because I read that the coir hogs up some nitrogen on the wiki article and know from experience that neem and coir go together well because of the neem's slow release action. :)

I hope this mix is good and has all the sulfur and elements it needs covered, let me know what you think :thank you:
OrganicOG

You have 6 tablespoons PER GALLON of 'liming agents' - 42 tablespoons to each 1 cubic foot???????

That's 21 oz - over 1.4 lbs.

I'd pick-up a couple of color spots at Home Depot (marigolds, pansy, e.g.) and see how that flies for you before committing to using rooted cuttings or seeds.

6 tablespoons to 1 c.f. of potting soil would be my suggestion - total.

Garden Lime is Calcite Lime, i.e. pure Calcium Carbonate as is the Crab Meal. The Gypsum is elemental Calcium and Sulphur. Plus you have solid levels of elemental Calcium in the fish bone meal, alfalfa meal and neem meal.

HTH

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Gascanastan

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Just DON'T buy it from a garden store - local nursery charged me $8/10 lb bag -
Ouch!

I googled Olympia fish compost and get oly mountain fish compost out of the olympic penninsula. Is this the same stuff as you are talking about?
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Serious medicine Blue Orca....the real deal. Great for nausea,pain,sleep,sex,appetite,and overall well being. Much more mellowed and balanced pleasant effect compared to the mental aerobics TO creates.

I look forward to witnessing the fruition of BO x NLH....this can only be good.
 

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Everything is looking lovely here.. notice the cilantro growing in the window box it's part of my insectary lol

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Made some Deep Funk solventless oil. 220-73 micron, cured with lyophilisation
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From the bottom, thru the glass, with some sun shine
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Gascanastan

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A couple types that failed meet my standards in the garden...but others may find them useful.

LVPK

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Cheese Quake

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heres a little blue orca from the backyard. probably taking it down before the crap weather rolls upon us.

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YosemiteSam

Gascan...when LVPK (a wannabe gangsta fav) does not make the cut it means your garden rocks :bow:
 
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YosemiteSam

no shit on the Durban x BMR.

I am curious how long you let it go. I love the way it is reaching senescence on its own time schedule. No pushing it by starving it.

That is how it should be done.
 
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BlueJayWay

no shit on the Durban x BMR.

I am curious how long you let it go. I love the way it is reaching senescence on its own time schedule. No pushing it by starving it.

That is how it should be done.

Sam - the Sour Grape? 65 Days harvest, ROLS of course, water and light botanical teas, worm casting slurry a couple times - check my thread in BOG forum, the other plants are the same as far as senescence - which set in a little early for my liking, but this was the first seed run and that tends to happen with me on a seed run, for whatever reason (...??) But they finished up beautifully and I will have 4 cuts of each ready to flower for final selection, i like all the phenos - bummer huh?

One thing i'm getting used to is plants responding differently to the same soil mixture, but i just work with the plant. If she's really dark early on in flower and seems to stay that way, she gets plain water until lower fan leaves start fading or i.e. hunger signs. If she is not overly dark, or starts fading early, i'm a little more aggressive with teas etc.

Teas make it easy, whatever is on the menu for the day, i just make a full strength batch, some will get it diluted with water @ varying strengths, some will get full strength etc etc.
 
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YosemiteSam

Thanks BlueJay. That is a great explanation.

I am wondering what happens if you just keep feeding...do they eventually reach senescence on their own, and is the quality really improved at that point.

Forgive me but I come from the dark side (salts) and am just starting to explore the possibilities that nature offers.
 
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BlueJayWay

Thanks BlueJay. That is a great explanation.

I am wondering what happens if you just keep feeding...do they eventually reach senescence on their own, and is the quality really improved at that point.

Forgive me but I come from the dark side (salts) and am just starting to explore the possibilities that nature offers.

Thanks, I hope someone else chimes in here as well, it's a topic I struggle with because I see varying results, and i think the answer is "depends on what you're feeding with."

It seems to me, when the soil is extra fertile, especially with N, senescense does not set in at all. And at the same time these have yielded well and quality of smoke after a cure is excellent. (There could be other factors at play in regards to delay of senescense i.e. PGR's maybe heavy feedings of kelp meal, whether in the soil or as teas)

On the flip side, i sometimes get the ugliest plants that yellow and lose most fan leaves by mid flower, but the flowers themselves keep growing and this plant will also yield well and produce fine smoke. ---But I guess my point is, one way vs. the other doesn't always seem to determine higher yield or better quality - in this style of growing anyways...

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I like the middle ground, which keeps a healthy vigorous plant through flower but also gets its "fall colors" so to speak.
 

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Gascan...when LVPK (a wannabe gangsta fav) does not make the cut it means your garden rocks :bow:
This was the infamous LVPK.....it was a nice plant to grow,it required little attention and was a decent yielding little imitation Purple Kush that finished around 65 days depending on who you ask. Great color in the leaves at the end of flowering,but none in the bud. Had the Purple Kush smell and white trichs,but NOT the real PK from ages past. Good bag appeal and smell,but as for the effect.....mellow in comparison to the types that I am used to. I did 1 cross to BMR with her and sent the beans to someone here @ ICmag who will or not eventually do a BX1 to LVPK w/them.

Durban Poison X BMR - wow sExy

Mazar-I-Shariff - didn't know she was that purdy!

DP x BMR....This was not a keeper cut believe it or not....it was PM susceptable. The better cut is the one MGD and Von grew.


Mazar.....Not bad for a landrace...did a couple crosses with her to G13/Haze and NL#5/Haze...have not popped any of those beans yet.
Really earthy/musky/soil taste which turns a lot of people off..... looks great in a bag,lots of resin..smells like lemon hence the 'Lemon Kush' tag. Great yielder,easy to grow...standard issue Indica effect..potential exists in a cross to any good sativa.

Show 'n Tell today eh? :D

Sure why not~
 
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