whats your prefered heating method for cold weather(lofties)?

[siftedunity]

for anyone out there who is enjoying the gales and rain i have this week, what is your prefered heating method? loft growers opinons most welcome

im deciding between wall mounted heater fans or oil rads...

 

[roll it large]

small oil rad does the job for me in veg room has a thermostat too it's only 500w

I tried the greenhouse tube heaters but they weren't that good for me

the Montana greenhouse fan heater is good 1k and 2k setting built in thermostat too £40 iirc used in bloom room

peace

 

[siftedunity]

yeah my veg room is fine its the loft im worried about. i had the tube heaters on the go last year and tbh they seemed to be ok when i placed them in between the rows of pots but the heat rises and tacos the leaf. thing is my loft is fairly big. it would cost loads to heat and keep hot. im thinking fan heaters directed at the plants on a low setting or a rad that i can just leave on.

on your Montana greenhouse fan heater , how precise are the thermostat settings? is it energy efficient?

 

[roll it large]

yeah it's precise it keeps my loft at 20 no probs and that's on the 1k setting my space is 3mx2.4

peace

 

[siftedunity]

yeah it's precise it keeps my loft at 20 no probs and that's on the 1k setting my space is 3mx2.4

peace

yeah thats good.. my space is about 6m x 6m. quite a large space. do you direct yours on the plants?

 

[siftedunity]

plus i guess the elements might effect the flowering plants at night..

 

[roll it large]

mines pointed away from the plants holds ambient temps well

it doesn't glow up like the halogen heaters either it's quite subtle

have you insulated the loft sides?

peace

 

[siftedunity]

mines pointed away from the plants holds ambient temps well

it doesn't glow up like the halogen heaters either it's quite subtle

have you insulated the loft sides?

peace

about 50% of the sides are insulated. so it loses heat quickly. but ive got two lights running same as you so daytime temps are not so bad. its night time that worries me. but yeah, i wont be fully insulating it till next year.

 

[slim blue]

I just checked mine with a digital thermometer and hygrometers, in the dark the ambient canopy temp is 16c and on the hygrometers on the outdoor setting on all of them, it's warmer than the ambient room temperature which is 14-15c on the same hygrometer units.

My lazer tells a different story at all different places but now its within 13-17c.

Outside on the roof temp measured a lot colder for those who speculate "Police Helichopter"

"In the summer its hotter outside than in so its win win. I battle the smell".

I just leave my grows to get some colouring into the buds this time of year.

The one that comes down now is usually the best crop anyway.

Grown fast during summer and finishing in nice conditions.

My room has only 600w running and the canopy can get to about 26c with the ambient room temps in the low 20's. I don't think that paying for a bit of heat is worth it as much as finding suitable genetics that are acclimatised to the season.

Experience plays a big part in growing year round supplying yourself with fresh A+ meds.

 

[siftedunity]

I just checked mine with a digital thermometer and hygrometers, in the dark the ambient canopy temp is 16c and on the hygrometers on the outdoor setting on all of them, it's warmer than the ambient room temperature which is 14-15c on the same hygrometer units.

My lazer tells a different story at all different places but now its within 13-17c.

Outside on the roof temp measured a lot colder for those who speculate "Police Helichopter"

"In the summer its hotter outside than in so its win win. I battle the smell".

I just leave my grows to get some colouring into the buds this time of year.

The one that comes down now is usually the best crop anyway.

Grown fast during summer and finishing in nice conditions.

My room has only 600w running and the canopy can get to about 26c with the ambient room temps in the low 20's. I don't think that paying for a bit of heat is worth it as much as finding suitable genetics that are acclimatised to the season.

Experience plays a big part in growing year round supplying yourself with fresh A+ meds.

hmmm..yup its fine if your harvesting now but if your just started flowering its gonna be a harsh couple of months.

btw which strains do you have which are acclimatised to uk weather? is it the same one you get 60 oz per light from?

 

[DrFever]

about 50% of the sides are insulated. so it loses heat quickly. but ive got two lights running same as you so daytime temps are not so bad. its night time that worries me. but yeah, i wont be fully insulating it till next year.

Do you run your lights in day time ???? i always found as cooler weather comes in i tend to run my lights at night being its the coolest and in day time i place 1 electric heater behind a fan as fan blows heat through out room i use fan to my advantage ) evenly spreads heat rather then have hot spots
PS: i was just thinking if a grower defoilate / Skin plants i bet those plants would get real cold fast i guess also having a bushy leafy plant would help plant contain some internal temps lol

 

[siftedunity]

yeah run my lights in the day for several reasons. i mean the fans etc id prefer them running in the day, because its more likely they might draw attention at night. but yeah apart from that i could start running them at night. but i run air cooled lights anyway so although it might help with temps, it might not solve the issue anyway. day temps are fine atm too

 

[Harry Lime]

hmmm..yup its fine if your harvesting now but if your just started flowering its gonna be a harsh couple of months.

btw which strains do you have which are acclimatised to uk weather? is it the same one you get 60 oz per light from?

 

[siftedunity]

lol

 

[siftedunity]

Do you run your lights in day time ???? i always found as cooler weather comes in i tend to run my lights at night being its the coolest and in day time i place 1 electric heater behind a fan as fan blows heat through out room i use fan to my advantage ) evenly spreads heat rather then have hot spots
PS: i was just thinking if a grower defoilate / Skin plants i bet those plants would get real cold fast i guess also having a bushy leafy plant would help plant contain some internal temps lol

sorry but il leave skinning to people who like harming their plants. but yeah they would get cold really quick with only three leaves on.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

I run 2 different setups for indoor rooms, summmer and winter, in a loft, always in a polystyrene "Igloo".

In Summer, you want the rooms as cool as possible, in Winter, as warm as possible... So, fit the biggest extractor and plumb in air coled hoods for Summer, for winter I change the extractor for the smallest possible, [e.g. just a 4" for 4x600W] this keeps the air fresh, CO2 high and humidity down enough to grow properly, but retains enough of the lamps hot air for long enough to keep the temps up in the required range. Also, you can change the position of your extractor from the hoods to the floor, letting your room warm up more with the lamp's heat.

I always flower at night, in Summer it is the coolest way, so you do not freak the plants out or cook their terpenes, in Winter it stops you getting too cold, at the coldest part of the 24h. Both ways also work best for using the ambient CO2, in Rural areas, night time CO2ppm. can be double daytime.

 

[Funion]

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[Iffy-Caradoc]

I built my 'loftie' as a room within a room, instead of packing insulation between the joists and boarding over as most people do, (with lights on at least 18 hrs in veg, the heat will inevitably pass through the insulation and warm the roof tiles). I stripped the backing paper from the inside of the roof so if you look down through the tiles, you can see daylight. This allows a great deal of fresh air into the loft. Next I built the room in layers, working inwards; 1, rubber sheet, 2, 12mm fibreboard, (caulk out all the seams & joints) 3, Mylar sheet, 4, Thermal underlay with silvered side up, (expensive) 5, Silver thermal wrap on a roll (12 x rolls from Wickes/B&Q),(Silver tape all the seams and joints) 6, 22mm Fibreboard, 7, Final covering of more silver thermal wrap. The completed room is just about 6 ft high at the apex with a double, weatherproofed entry door. I put in a small sink unit, wasted downstairs to the bog and fitted a ceramic/carbon filter inline. The air is vented out directly into the chimney breast.
With all three lights and everything else on, you would never know it was there! No sound, no heat & no smell! When we had snow, my roof was just as covered as everyone elses & I was well chuffed. I had problems with heat at first, it being a completely sealed room but I've got to grips with it now. I use a small fan heater with a temp setting & timed to come on just after thhe lights go out. All in, the room cost me about £1200 to fit out but it was worth the investment!

 

[siftedunity]

I built my 'loftie' as a room within a room, instead of packing insulation between the joists and boarding over as most people do, (with lights on at least 18 hrs in veg, the heat will inevitably pass through the insulation and warm the roof tiles). I stripped the backing paper from the inside of the roof so if you look down through the tiles, you can see daylight. This allows a great deal of fresh air into the loft. Next I built the room in layers, working inwards; 1, rubber sheet, 2, 12mm fibreboard, (caulk out all the seams & joints) 3, Mylar sheet, 4, Thermal underlay with silvered side up, (expensive) 5, Silver thermal wrap on a roll (12 x rolls from Wickes/B&Q),(Silver tape all the seams and joints) 6, 22mm Fibreboard, 7, Final covering of more silver thermal wrap. The completed room is just about 6 ft high at the apex with a double, weatherproofed entry door. I put in a small sink unit, wasted downstairs to the bog and fitted a ceramic/carbon filter inline. The air is vented out directly into the chimney breast.
With all three lights and everything else on, you would never know it was there! No sound, no heat & no smell! When we had snow, my roof was just as covered as everyone elses & I was well chuffed. I had problems with heat at first, it being a completely sealed room but I've got to grips with it now. I use a small fan heater with a temp setting & timed to come on just after thhe lights go out. All in, the room cost me about £1200 to fit out but it was worth the investment!

thsnks for the info to you and everyone else here, tbh i dont have the means right now to gut everything and redo it. i was rely on the temps dropping a little bit later on in the year but thats my fault really. im gutted really because by the time it takes to get everything i need delivered and set up, i might have either stunted my plants or just generally fucked them up completely.
last night it was freezing.

 

[Harry Lime]

I built my 'loftie' as a room within a room, instead of packing insulation between the joists and boarding over as most people do, (with lights on at least 18 hrs in veg, the heat will inevitably pass through the insulation and warm the roof tiles). I stripped the backing paper from the inside of the roof so if you look down through the tiles, you can see daylight. This allows a great deal of fresh air into the loft. Next I built the room in layers, working inwards; 1, rubber sheet, 2, 12mm fibreboard, (caulk out all the seams & joints) 3, Mylar sheet, 4, Thermal underlay with silvered side up, (expensive) 5, Silver thermal wrap on a roll (12 x rolls from Wickes/B&Q),(Silver tape all the seams and joints) 6, 22mm Fibreboard, 7, Final covering of more silver thermal wrap. The completed room is just about 6 ft high at the apex with a double, weatherproofed entry door. I put in a small sink unit, wasted downstairs to the bog and fitted a ceramic/carbon filter inline. The air is vented out directly into the chimney breast.
With all three lights and everything else on, you would never know it was there! No sound, no heat & no smell! When we had snow, my roof was just as covered as everyone elses & I was well chuffed. I had problems with heat at first, it being a completely sealed room but I've got to grips with it now. I use a small fan heater with a temp setting & timed to come on just after thhe lights go out. All in, the room cost me about £1200 to fit out but it was worth the investment!

sounds a great job iffy

hows about sum pics please?