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[ilikeweed21]

Sorry guys, my camera has got a problem, i will soon have a new one. For now they will be sitting for about 24 hours in the darkness before i flip them to 12/12. Tomorrow at 7 i am getting them to flower (the fucking bugs haven't completely left, but i can't postpone it anymore, spinosad would be ok at ~2nd week of flowering as soil drench?). Pics to come after they get into 12/12.

 

[ilikeweed21]

Hello guys, things don't seem so good from the front...It's the third day since i switched to 12/12, more hairs are appearing, especially on California Dream. What bothers me is that many many leaves have gotten heat-burned,especially from the time i sealed most of the holes, negative pressure has increased in my growtent. This leads to leaves getting more close to the lights, new growth seems ok, but their bottom parts are a mess.

Besides that those fkin insects are getting me insane. I have no other stuff to combat them, gonna try and order spinosad from Amazon again. The fuckers must be biting me when i inspect my babies, i am usually half naked when i get in the growtent and when i am done, i have extreme itching.`Temps are still sitting at 90 F most of the time (i don't know if the thermometer shows temps ok where i have put it, direct light gets on it from the HPS bulb, someone who knows better?). RH is <30%. I am gonna water two of them tomorrow.

General overview

Acapulco Gold burnt leaves

California Dream

California Dream burnt leaves

Wider overview

 

[ilikeweed21]

Lights on

Bottom look

 

[Easygrowing]

Hm : ) or ) : how you seen is it..
You will gets into lots more prob Ilikeweed-your ladye,s,will first start,s theres streching from now into next 2-4 weeks,you will getting much much bigger plants,and closer to the bulp then...im not sure about,it,s the lamp who had burned leafs..to me it,s looks like to much nutrients,it,s only the tips,who is burned-therefore..i had just burned some leafs real,it,s the hole leafs who is duying then,lots more yellow-brown,than yours...
Another grow-run-i would not vegge them,for so long as you have done..
Im only vegge for 2-3 weeks-plants still reach high,s about 4-5 feets..sativa..

Shitty about insects-cant gives your advice about those spino,using insectsoap by my self also in 12-12 cyclus-but-take them under the shower,25 minutes after-it had done it,s works..You cant move yours,under the shower i can see..try read around about spino then 12-12..then your plants are about 3 weeks old-i would also starts take big leafs away-also those upper-so you getting full lights into the flowerbuds-no shadows,for those..cant you put an PC fan to give airflow,over the bulp-for getting those heat away a bit ? Mabye,you can opening the door to the tent,at the day ? but it,s not good,with all those insects already,but you knows that..i know.sucks..IF you taking clones-remember gets those free of everything,for not getting mites and so around your home.
They are like cops-everythere-but-you will gets much bigger plants-than those i can promissed you..Hang on Ilikeweed-it,s a funny sport remember that.even it,s teasing sometimes also.
Good and Green luck..
Mabye you can win some extra space-if-you can take those from each site-and over to the other site-without moving them-so they makes an x-so you should win those distance-there are from space between sites-if,you understanding : ) they will climb.to the top at your tent : ) true..try see,if you can..leafs looks much healthy even insects.That could be much much worst..

 

[ilikeweed21]

Hm : ) or ) : how you seen is it..
You will gets into lots more prob Ilikeweed-your ladye,s,will first start,s theres streching from now into next 2-4 weeks,you will getting much much bigger plants,and closer to the bulp then...im not sure about,it,s the lamp who had burned leafs..to me it,s looks like to much nutrients,it,s only the tips,who is burned-therefore..i had just burned some leafs real,it,s the hole leafs who is duying then,lots more yellow-brown,than yours...
Another grow-run-i would not vegge them,for so long as you have done..
Im only vegge for 2-3 weeks-plants still reach high,s about 4-5 feets..sativa..

Shitty about insects-cant gives your advice about those spino,using insectsoap by my self also in 12-12 cyclus-but-take them under the shower,25 minutes after-it had done it,s works..You cant move yours,under the shower i can see..try read around about spino then 12-12..then your plants are about 3 weeks old-i would also starts take big leafs away-also those upper-so you getting full lights into the flowerbuds-no shadows,for those..cant you put an PC fan to give airflow,over the bulp-for getting those heat away a bit ? Mabye,you can opening the door to the tent,at the day ? but it,s not good,with all those insects already,but you knows that..i know.sucks..IF you taking clones-remember gets those free of everything,for not getting mites and so around your home.
They are like cops-everythere-but-you will gets much bigger plants-than those i can promissed you..Hang on Ilikeweed-it,s a funny sport remember that.even it,s teasing sometimes also.
Good and Green luck..
Mabye you can win some extra space-if-you can take those from each site-and over to the other site-without moving them-so they makes an x-so you should win those distance-there are from space between sites-if,you understanding : ) they will climb.to the top at your tent : ) true..try see,if you can..leafs looks much healthy even insects.That could be much much worst..

Thank you very much for the post and your advice bro! You are right, its more propably nute burn (it does look a lot more like this, leaves that have been very close to the bulb were actually bleached). I suspect that the switch from Ata Growth (3-1-3) to Floranova-Bloom (4-8-7) did not seem very appealing to them.

Before Floranova i would give them intake water with high EC and still they were not complaining. Now that i am giving them intake water with lower ec+half dose of floranova, it still burns them.

For insects i am gonna wipe as many leaves as i can with a towel full of water+spinosad(or pyrethrum). I am hoping for the best bro, especially Acapulco Gold has lost many leaves, hope they stretch only upwards, i did some more tying today. I don't exactly understand how you mean it, to make them form an x bro? I would love for sure something that would gain me more space.

Don't think that i did not want to switch them to flowering earlier, its fkin temperature that drives me crazy, it was sitting at 88 when i looked them a while ago (to take pics of them), imagine them flowering by mid-July or August, buds would be cooked.

Hope we speak again my friend, here are two pics taken a while ago (i changed the intake of the cooltubes, they are drawing air from an opening in the upper growtent door (the one with the mylar).

 

[Easygrowing]

: ) Only happy,if you can use a bit help..im no expert at all-but then noone says anything and you ? to something,i has to try,and no expert in nutrients,but can see tipburning and crowling up in the end,typical overfeeded,and your leafs looks right-shinning and healthy dark green,those burning nothing to considering about..if it,s only your 3 growth Bro -you will be an good grower in not long time..you knows what you are doing-you noticed-what you giving them and seen after,how they react-you will learn fast,im sure at..
About those x form-if you take one from the right site-bending Her under the bulp-over to the left site and those from left-to right site-of course : ) so you getting those space there is between the right-left site extra-IF you can,for the bulp-or you can think of it,to next time-you can also take both plants,from eace site-let them x each other-you get a bit more-one in front,of it other.Yes it can be very hot under the lamp . ) mabye switch it off-then doing plants-and only a spotsomething,so you can see-what you are doing..
Try read in Majcottonmouth tread mabye-you can learn much about nutrients and mites and so and how gets rid of it..and learn many things..have to read again-not the best in UK : )
Have you vegged them outdoor or ? better read again : ) But good start up always in half of dosis,then starting nutrients-always can gives them more,than the other way .Dont considering you Ilkeweed-you learning only then doing fail-you will be good in few months ! Following you to the "End" mabye take clones and try again and lesser vegge . ) lol...just wait and see-you will get much weed-as you likes ! try get rid of insects and get good weed and remember the floor also and area around your tent..keep it so clean as you can..dont have time for it self-and have always mites and so in own..not good ..
Keep it growing Bro ! And nope : ) you have not vegged them outdoor-have read,ed the hole through-welldescribed done..exelent

 

[ilikeweed21]

I can use a bit of help for sure my friend! Yeah, i am not getting any other responses besides you, i appreciate a lot your advice! For sure all symptoms lead to overfeeding, coupled with heat stress, i have backed off on nutes a bit, they seem to have gotten a little bit taller .

I can see many pistils forming on California Dream and Original Skunk #1, Acapulco Gold hasn't started forming them in day 5 since the switch to 12/12. I think i can see what you mean about the x, gonna try it and see, lots of space needs to be saved. Have checked most sticky threads in here, they really helped me to acquire an insight of how things are working with this wonderful plant. Still have a lot to learn, through these grows i had the chance to try many things, hope that for one time my efforts won't go in vain.

Floor is difficult to be cleaned in my growtent, pots can't be removed at all, i am doing my best. Did not see any insects today, i don't really know wtf is going on with them. Damage does not seem to be spreading by them. I am not doing the mistake of vegging for so long again, i am so scared by the current attempt that next time i am gonna grow only autoflowers .

More pics to come in a few days, always enjoying chatting with you easygrowing .

 

[Easygrowing]

Good to hear ILW : ) Pistils will come,just wait 5 days not much...think it,s to late now-you can also "break" the mainstem-you take around there on the stem,you will "break" it-rub it through your fingers twist it from right to left to you can feel,it,s gonna be soft-then you can bend it backwards,to you hear a sound-neck it,s says or how your ears listening lol..but you can hear,then it,s break insite it-DONT break it over !-then you can take some line-wire for support it,for it,s not shall break over-im bad in UK i has to say-trying the best i can : ) after-3-5 days,it,s starts to grow together again-your training the plants..after it,s had grown together,you can take away-what you have used,for support the main or sitebuds...so those at the plant,there is upper-now cames down,and sitebuds came in nearly same high as,those you have bended ! if you understand-just a bit . ) it,s like then you ties them down-but you can also do those,it,s will be strong as before,if not even stronger-no prob there...think it,s called supercropping-then you do those on all buds-it,s good if not much space..Had just done it on one Nepal today,She is about 5 feet-should had done it earlyer-just got feel for do it-so i did it . )
Hold good around it and not to much twisting-do it easyly and you feeling it beening very soft after about 30 sec..mabye i can show one pics of this..

Hm the floor you mabye can spray with insectsoap and bleach if-you will ...then not possible moving things..would take clones on them all and do it again without doing trees first LOL...it,s crazy-6 feet is much ! Tarzan style..
Acapulco-is it Sativa ? think it is-but i can seach on Her..will see if i can find a pics of broked mainstems-without been real breaked . ) and same to You Ilikeweed..
Take cares ! you can see,it had been done 2 places on same stems-it,s from the album malawi gold ,if you will see more.Growed under 160 w pl-l in small tent-why i did it.

 

[ExcelAtIt]

Genius idea with the fishing weights, ever get caught on a hook in there? It never fails when I'm fishing.

 

[ilikeweed21]

Wow, good trick with the weighs buddy indeed!! I used some more tying during these days, mainly to hold future buds away from the bulbs. I think i have found why my babies were over-nuted. I had recently added dolomite lime to the top of my soil, one of its main components is CaCo3, my tap water also contains too much CaCo3, i believe the combination of these two led to nute-lockout.

As soon as i stopped using tap water, replacing it with distilled, problems have stopped and i get much stabler and low EC readings. Babies look greener the last few days, getting height and throwing pistils (the two of them, Acapulco Gold barely has any visible pistils).

During my last watering i watered until i saw runoff:

1)California Dream, PPM:1200 PH:7

2)Acapulco Gold, PPM:1150 PH:6.5

3)Original Skunk #1 (watered today), PPM:1200 PH:6.8

I am anxious to see clearly visible pistils in Acapulco Gold, temps have dropped to about 85 F, still not good enough. RH sits at most at 45%. I am gonna buy Subculture again, and i will be watering only with distilled water from now on.

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Altough pic is not that good, you can see the pistils in California Dream

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Front view of the growtent

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A look from below at Calofnia Dream

A look from below at Acapulco Gold

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Another front view pic

 

[Easygrowing]

You can also boiling-heat up your tapwater ILW-for get some of those "Lime" out-those will sets it,s in inndersite,of what you will use..think it,s cheaper than buying water...also good only adding nutrients-for every second time-one time pure water-next nutrients added-for not getting saltupbuilding,,trying give own plants already boiled water-cold of course : ) for get those PH down..but have no PH tester ,so can only following leafs.

: ) Nope EA,it had not happened-or mabye once time in clothes,it had hanging-worst is,then lights turns out and not had get out,in good time-and yes,it,s for getting buds away from bulp.Works everytime.
Trimwork in sight ILW . ) cheers Buddy..

 

[ilikeweed21]

Hello, hope everyone is doing fine!! . I just wanted to give an update at day 16 since switching to 12/12.

California Dream and Original Skunk #1 are doing fine from what it seems to me. They are filling with more and more pistils everyday. Acapulco Gold is flowering very very slowly, some pistils here and there in its branches and that's all.

Q1:Anyone who could guess why it takes so long for Acapulco Gold to flower?

Something that concerns me with this particular plant is tha that many petioles are found shriveled, i have checked some branches for rot (cutting them) but could not find any. Insects could have something to do with that maybe?

I did lots of tying these days, i managed to keep most of them from touching the light(s). I fucked up with some buds here and there. California Dream is 7.5 ft tall, Acapulco Gold is 8ft, OS#1 is 6 ft. I also did some defealing here and there, mainly fan leaves blocking light to buds or those that were too close to the light.

Temps are fucked up, there was an unexpected wave heat in my country. They are sitting at 88-90 F these days. RH was sitting at 45-50% before i found out that the duct was not well connected with the RVK fan, thereby not exhausting all the air. As soon as i fixed it it dropped to 35%.

Tomorrow i am gonna water OS#1, i am gonna give it some Subculture too. Hope to see my Acapulco Gold budding, i am concerned about this issue. Anything you wanna say, i would love to hear .

General overview of growtent with lights off

Lower part of California Dream close to the growtent door

Upper part of California Dream

 

[ilikeweed21]

Some more pics (sorry for the third post in a row to come, its because of images).

I wish the bud in the back will be BIG!!

Part of my sick AG. You can see a shriveling petiole .

 

[ilikeweed21]

Q2:I recently got 2x54w T5 along with their ballast and the cord. You may laugh at me but i do not know how to make those damn lights shine. Is there any part i am missing besides another cord to connect at the other end of the ballast? How do i wire them?

Anything else i need to make this work?

The second t5 bulb came broken . Grrrrrr....

Left side of ballast

Right side of ballast

 

[Easygrowing]

Yeps sir here you are : ) just take the wire and connect to the ballast there after further to the lamp-the bulps-but have you not reflectors to put those rears into ? same color out of the ballast,as you place them in front...so cant anythings goes wrong-not important what colors you put into-it, would be like you twisted the connector around before you put into the wallcontact..
Not easy to read the text ILW on the ballast-only the one end you can see-there are 3 contacs-nope all to difficult for me for explain..and it,s voltage -dangoures-can be-some there can explain better-better doing it.But you need a amatuer-there those rears can sit into..the ballast also needs to be placed into those and out to the ends,there those rears sitting-of course.You need 2 show the right site better-cant see the connecters buddy . )
Remember there can be different,s between those wires-those to the ballast,from the wall needs to be 220 w-if you have it-mostly running at 110 v-after the ballast-even some have 220-they beeing drossled down to 110 throgh the ballast.Yes it,s 220 i can see...

Needs some who can UK better than me ILW -sorry but it,s voltage-and it,s 2 rears there shall makes power to-so there has to many more contacs in the right site-why you have 3 in the left-is for ground wiring.That you dont have out from you wallcontact..im pretty sure you dont have.Not seperate-it,s into the - pol instead-old system.

 

[ilikeweed21]

I am sorry bro, here is the right side of the ballast, the previous pic was wrong. Electricity confuses me a bit, these fking lights confuse me, an HPS is much easier to setup. I cant seem to understand how the ends of the bulb are connected to the ballast.

 

[Easygrowing]

I thought,you had an lamp also there the ballast was alredy build into and wireded up also,so you only needed for connect from wall to lamp...how should the bulps hang and how will you connect cords,from ballast -rear-without holders for rears ?
can see it,s makes 400-but you needs more than those ILW..so rears ballast can sit in one place,,not good enough for explain in uk and tecnical things-needs to be right..
Here you need 4 of those-for place those bulps-2 those 4 connecting-same colors-ahhh it,s 2 difficult 4 me 2 explain ILW sorry-and im high 4 god sake-but trying best : )
same color 2 nr 1 and 4-same color from 2-as 3-can you see the meaning out of the diagram ? those they runs up to-is those holders-cant the word 4 those-fatninger . ) in dk.hm.
Then you do the same again-to the next rear-same princip..6-7-5-8--i have 2 do an search-cant understand why 400 has 2 be done-for 2x54...will be back-and others words-has to be found-not easy always those ukspeaking.grrrrr ups the pics of course

it,s those Nepal-it,s hitting me lol-it,s true enough-they making 400-420v..theres just something i will like 4 understand-mabye it,s only old t8 there running 110..own interest . ) but why heck they need 400..that i dont understand.--your temp in tent 2 high-but you know it..mine is the same and they dont likes it.Over the limit..RH also a bit high.But yes your wheather.some words i have to google . ) therefore i said thanks to you for try helping-learning something self out of those.Cant you take plants up of pots-for check roots ? smartpots-has 2 do another searcr-like-that it,s airpots-always things 2 learn-in here-: )
Ok so those cleared-thought an smartpots,was one who waterring it self but nope-there is the smart so in those ? yes yes dont think Sir.And airpotssystem you can do self alike..

 

[ilikeweed21]

I got what you are saying bro! I need to get 4 sockets for the T5s like the one in the pic you posted. From then on i connect them with the ballast. Thank you for clearing this for me! Yeah, temps are too high, if you checked weather in my country you must've seen what i am talking about .

RH is better now <30%. They are sitting in smart pots,there are some roots on top of Acapulco Gold that have lost their bright white color, could be from exposure to the light before i covered them fully in soil. I am using mychorrizhae and trichoderma to make them better. I don't know why AG is not flowering as it should be and i will burst into tears if i have to scrap it. It could be from overfertilization, the last time i watered runoff EC was at 3 and it would not drop by any means.

 

[Easygrowing]

You understanding-what im trying 4 say : )
Dont considdering-(be worried) about roots over the soil-thats happening often 4 me lots of big rots looks up above the soil-trees also do so in nature and gets sunshine onto those-yes they changing colour,but not duying....cant understand why your AG will not flowering.2 much nutrients should not could be reason 4 that-so the leafs would die,s before,im sure at.
Can you take a better pic Buddy og AG-4 see to pistils and so ?
sounds weird-if not even pistils shows up-they other are full of flower i can see...are the tent lighttight out in the corner-there you have Her ? but even if not-She should shows some pistils,after so long time in 12-12,,werid..take cares of to much nutrients-they dont even "eaten" from your plants-then leafs in bottom starts changing colours-then you can see,they miss nutrients-but it,s normal out in nature..i have grown now about 7 years and newer or very seldon using nutrients-then leafs not even beeing lightgreen or yellowing-cant see reason for add all those things-thats just me-i just add 1 more plants instead--so those extra nutrients could do-the extra plant-weight up : ) my way thinking...in nature,now comes 4 addd nutrients and it,s in "poor" soil they living into-some still get monstertrees..but yes-myco should be always good.

sucks those broken rear-bad luck bro...but.it,s Saturday-time for a jay ! Hey stay in thouch or touch yes the last . ) ups-and if you are "good" with hands-make own reflector-there those holder can sits and the ballast also can sits-if you trying 2 look on a site 4 aqouiariums-you know fishtanks-many places-you can by only the reflectorpart-the ballast-can sit on top of those,so cords dont hangs around-remember plants needs water,bad combination with electrian mostly lol..secure-yes..

 

[ilikeweed21]

Hello, i have been very busy the last few days. I have been working towards expanding my growtent, making it 4 ft longx4 ft wide so that not other buds are burning and to give the plants some space. I am disappointed by the way things are going. One is not flowering as it should, one hasn't advanced because of the tight space and the other has only its upper part with big future buds, lower parts will be full of fluff i believe.

If AG does not show clear signs of flowering within a week i am gonna toss it and put as many bagseeds in 12/12 as i can instead of it. Fuck, i am really disappointed, all these months of growing for taking very little in return from what it seems. Pics will come later...