AN PH Perfect experiences?

[TREE KING]

You also get humics and such in most base nutes cause they want their stuff to work, its just not marketed like with AN.
I can leave my res for a week without checking the PH, there is no need. I just dont use PH perfect. Im sure I could leave it alone longer, but its only 30 gal. My roots are not in the res and I dont recirculate, but Ive used tap with nutes and its a headache. Now I dont even deal with runoff and Im lovin it.
I pay $100 for 10L of Flakes A&B and feel like Im being ripped off. Im probably going down to the cocos next, but flakes is so clean that I might not be able to switch. If you think $165 is nothing for nutes you must be killing it. Im not saying thats a bad thing, Im just saying thats a huge amount of money in the long run. Some people dont even spend the the total of the difference on an entire run and get better results than I ever will.

are you sayin you dont have to top off your res until 1 week later? if thats true than i see why you dont give a shit. i gotta top off my reses in flower everyday and i got 5 reses right now. 2 of them i dont though. toping off changes the ph so you gotta adjust it often. not anymore though

 

[TribalSeeds]

are you sayin you dont have to top off your res until 1 week later? if thats true than i see why you dont give a shit. i gotta top off my reses in flower everyday and i got 5 reses right now. 2 of them i dont though. toping off changes the ph so you gotta adjust it often. not anymore though

Holy shit! 5 res w/PH perfect? Thats gotta get out of hand in cost.
No topping off for me unless I feel like it... What Im saying is this shouldnt be so much work... The only time I have to do any work is when I fuck up. Unfortunately thats quite often, as I dont have a green thumb at all. I rely heavily on climate control. My AC froze the other night(Im pissed)
Its not just AN, I think there are better and easier ways to do things. I dont care what brand I use as long as its simple. Ive had to top off the res before when growing aero, but you couldnt get me to do another aero run even if you paid for the whole thing upfront. Its just too much work.
People argue that RO wastes water, but they dont let their res dry out, they dump it when they change it out. Its probably a wash when you take into account the waste water from RO and not having any water to dump that your plants dont drink.

 

[TREE KING]

Holy shit! 5 res w/PH perfect? Thats gotta get out of hand in cost.
No topping off for me unless I feel like it... What Im saying is this shouldnt be so much work... The only time I have to do any work is when I fuck up. Unfortunately thats quite often, as I dont have a green thumb at all. I rely heavily on climate control. My AC froze the other night(Im pissed)
Its not just AN, I think there are better and easier ways to do things. I dont care what brand I use as long as its simple. Ive had to top off the res before when growing aero, but you couldnt get me to do another aero run even if you paid for the whole thing upfront. Its just too much work.
People argue that RO wastes water, but they dont let their res dry out, they dump it when they change it out. Its probably a wash when you take into account the waste water from RO and not having any water to dump that your plants dont drink.

yeah im goin through nutes pretty quick right now cause i switched to aero and with these systems the plants drink crazy water plus the new strain i got likes heavy nutes. im about to start buyin 23 liter jugs of that shit. you dont understand how big of a relief it is to not have to check the ph everyday for real lol. i also feel like with AN i get an increase in yield and that makes up for the extra cost of the nutes so at the end of the day im making more money. the yields are much bigger than using dyna gro and the weed is better quality. i hear where your comin from though if you only got 1 res it aint a big deal

 

[TribalSeeds]

yeah im goin through nutes pretty quick right now cause i switched to aero and with these systems the plants drink crazy water plus the new strain i got likes heavy nutes. im about to start buyin 23 liter jugs of that shit. you dont understand how big of a relief it is to not have to check the ph everyday for real lol. i also feel like with AN i get an increase in yield and that makes up for the extra cost of the nutes so at the end of the day im making more money. the yields are much bigger than using dyna gro and the weed is better quality. i hear where your comin from though if you only got 1 res it aint a big deal

Yea I do... I go all week without checking. Just in a different way. Im not built for aero, thats way too much work for me with the amount of Sour Im going through!
With more than one res I would be looking to minimize my work even further. I just dont see how thats possible with my style of growing. Im not suggesting everyone should use Blumats or the nutes Im using. But, justifying the cost of perfect and saying it makes it so easy doesnt make much sense when you gotta top off and do all that work everyday anyway.
Im for sure not saying Im a better grower, cuz Im terrible.

 

[newnew]

gonna jump in here

gonna jump in here

first of all don't buy all the crap all these nutrient companies are selling you. I am a biologist and I can tell you exactly why and how the "ph" perfect stuff works.

AN has not added some special component to their stuff. what they did was prepare a buffer solution using their current "components" in different concentrations.

this is basic college chemistry.
check out the link for more info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_solution

basically in this instance you take a weak acid and it's conjugate base. in this case you want to add them in fairly large amounts to ensure the stability of your buffer.

the trick with the formula is finding the correct ratios of each "component". anybody who has taken college chemistry lab has prepared a buffer solution and you see the exact same effect.

"PH Perfect" is nothing more than propaganda... don't get sucked in. Arm yourself with knowledge and don't blindly defend things using only the propaganda that is supplied to you either by regurgitation or from the very people who are trying to get you to spend your money.

 

[TREE KING]

first of all don't buy all the crap all these nutrient companies are selling you. I am a biologist and I can tell you exactly why and how the "ph" perfect stuff works.

AN has not added some special component to their stuff. what they did was prepare a buffer solution using their current "components" in different concentrations.

this is basic college chemistry.
check out the link for more info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_solution

basically in this instance you take a weak acid and it's conjugate base. in this case you want to add them in fairly large amounts to ensure the stability of your buffer.

the trick with the formula is finding the correct ratios of each "component". anybody who has taken college chemistry lab has prepared a buffer solution and you see the exact same effect.

"PH Perfect" is nothing more than propaganda... don't get sucked in. Arm yourself with knowledge and don't blindly defend things using only the propaganda that is supplied to you either by regurgitation or from the very people who are trying to get you to spend your money.

if its so easy to do than why dont other nute companies do it?

 

[blackone]

So far so good - it has worked well in veg for handwatered pots with diatomite. Also at 3 weeks 12/12 in the dwc system plants are growing well and looking healthy with white roots. No signs of nutrient problems yet. I don't know PH so can't give any input on how it works but it does soom to work pretty well. Don't know if I would use this in aero or drip systems because the micro part looks pretty unclear.

 

[newnew]

other nute companies don't do it because it's way more trouble than it's worth and it isn't as effective as simply balancing the ph yourself.

you often can answer your own doubts and questions with a little common sense.

 

[catalyte]

^ sounds like it's a lot LESS trouble than balancing the pH from a Grower with lots of Nutrient Tanks to manage while still hitting optimal results!

newnew is most likely from one of the competition.... LOL

 

[TREE KING]

other nute companies don't do it because it's way more trouble than it's worth and it isn't as effective as simply balancing the ph yourself.

you often can answer your own doubts and questions with a little common sense.

your the one not making sense lol keep on hating hater. you and your 3 posts lol

i knew that mr cleancut i just wanted to hear what his answer was gonna be. if the ph perfect was so easy to do than everyone would be doing it its just common sense

 

[TribalSeeds]

LOL dude! Go get a bottle of H&G A/B and let it drift from 5.2-6.2 or so, then come back and tell us how much better PH perfect is. Youre topping off anyway, when you add nutes back let it drop again.
Peace

 

[TREE KING]

LOL dude! Go get a bottle of H&G A/B and let it drift from 5.2-6.2 or so, then come back and tell us how much better PH perfect is. Youre topping off anyway, when you add nutes back let it drop again.
Peace

and how do i get the ph to 5.2 wave a magic wand lol? and seems like your not understanding what im saying. my tap comes out in the high 7's and in order to start out where i need i need to use ph down. i tried dyna gro before too and i had to use ph adjusters with that. just because you personally dont need to use ph adjusters doesnt mean its the same for everyone else

 

[Homebrewer]

A little knowledge of water chemistry would save you a lot of money, tree.

 

[TribalSeeds]

and how do i get the ph to 5.2 wave a magic wand lol? and seems like your not understanding what im saying. my tap comes out in the high 7's and in order to start out where i need i need to use ph down. i tried dyna gro before too and i had to use ph adjusters with that. just because you personally dont need to use ph adjusters doesnt mean its the same for everyone else

Thats the beauty of RO. Its the same no matter where you are. Makes growing less work.

 

[TREE KING]

Thats the beauty of RO. Its the same no matter where you are. Makes growing less work.

so whats the process to turning your water to ro water? what do you pump water into a machine then let the machine work for a little while and then pump it into the res? im not familiar with it whats the process?

 

[TribalSeeds]

so whats the process to turning your water to ro water? what do you pump water into a machine then let the machine work for a little while and then pump it into the res? im not familiar with it whats the process?

Its just a filter that doesnt run on electricity or anything. Takes awhile to fill a tank though. I have 100 gal per day filter so its not too slow. An operation your size would probably require 200-300. The lower the gal per day, the slower it filters. Some units waste more than others. 2-1 seems like the most efficient.
I should probably bring back up a point I made earlier though. With Aero systems you tend to already have a lot of wasted water. When you filter tap water you end up with a lot of wasted water. The worse your tap is, the more waste water you will have. I dont have any runoff in my system, so the only waste water I have is the filtered stuff that goes to my yard.

 

[TREE KING]

Its just a filter that doesnt run on electricity or anything. Takes awhile to fill a tank though. I have 100 gal per day filter so its not too slow. An operation your size would probably require 200-300. The lower the gal per day, the slower it filters. Some units waste more than others. 2-1 seems like the most efficient.
I should probably bring back up a point I made earlier though. With Aero systems you tend to already have a lot of wasted water. When you filter tap water you end up with a lot of wasted water. The worse your tap is, the more waste water you will have. I dont have any runoff in my system, so the only waste water I have is the filtered stuff that goes to my lawn.

so by your calculations how long would it take to fill a 70 gal res?

 

[TribalSeeds]

Ive never used a faster system than the Stealth 100, but I have used a POS system from homedepot that cost the same as my Steath. The stealth would take more than 12hours for 70gals with my hose and filter. The homedepot unit would take days.

 

[TREE KING]

Ive never used a faster system than the Stealth 100, but I have used a POS system from homedepot that cost the same as my Steath. The stealth would take more than 12hours for 70gals with my hose and filter. The homedepot unit would take like a week or more.

is this a sick joke lol? you think using ro water is easier than tap when it takes 12 hours to fill a fuckin res? lol please tell me your joking i would never use that shit it takes 10 minutes for me to fill a 70 gal res.

 

[TribalSeeds]

Well, its not like Im pedaling a wheel that is generating the electricity to power some machine that filters my water. I turn the knob on my hose and when my tank is full the float falve shuts everything down. Then I come along at some point during the week and turn on my pump that shoots the water into my res, then I go vape some herbs and come back later and mix my nutes.