Rez sorted and made "F2"s based on his selections from Soma's NYCD - so yeah, still accurate...
The rest of them though..... bwwwwahahahahaha!!!
dank.Frank
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BOG bred OG Kush?
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Rez sorted and made "F2"s based on his selections from Soma's NYCD - so yeah, still accurate...
The rest of them though..... bwwwwahahahahaha!!!
dank.Frank
I believe somas NYCD is a cross between one of the later Chemdog seeds(chem sis or D) x Mexican sativa. He says that a rastaman with dreadlocks to the floor gave him seeds and that is how It came about. Who the mystery dready is, I have no idea. the new description in the strain info is mexican sativa/afghani. that is not what the description used to say, especially not on the seeds from nearly a decade ago. I am pretty sure the pre 07 description was Mexican x Hawaiian Sativa.
Now I have no proof that it was one of the Chems in the cross, but the first Indoor I ever grew was the original NYCD from the first release of seeds after his Cup win. That plant from 8 years ago is so similar to Chem D in aroma and taste, only thing that made it different was the sativa-like structure of Somas creation. I reckon that is from its Mexican heritage. Also, Chemdog was known as Original Diesel, so you do the math. It seems like Soma was just trying to cash in on the Diesel Name, and made up the Rasta story.
A lot of this is conjecture, but I believe NYCD is either the above cross, or some S1 seeds from one of the 3 keeper Chem seeds. If that is the case, then the recipe for his post 2007 release is probably his keeper NYCD female crossed with a stock Afghani male, and maybe a back cross or two to stabilize it.
Anyway, about BOG, that is a clever story, but i always thought OG was a Chem 91 X/variation. S1 pollen knocking up another plant. Might have been some BoG gear. who knows?
RBDF
Now I have no proof that it was one of the Chems in the cross, but the first Indoor I ever grew was the original NYCD from the first release of seeds after his Cup win. That plant from 8 years ago is so similar to Chem D in aroma and taste, only thing that made it different was the sativa-like structure of Somas creation. I reckon that is from its Mexican heritage. Also, Chemdog was known as Original Diesel, so you do the math. It seems like Soma was just trying to cash in on the Diesel Name, and made up the Rasta story.
A lot of this is conjecture, but I believe NYCD is either the above cross, or some S1 seeds from one of the 3 keeper Chem seeds. If that is the case, then the recipe for his post 2007 release is probably his keeper NYCD female crossed with a stock Afghani male, and maybe a back cross or two to stabilize it.
Anyway, about BOG, that is a clever story, but i always thought OG was a Chem 91 X/variation. S1 pollen knocking up another plant. Might have been some BoG gear. who knows?
RBDF
This doesn't add up chronologically, people were growing the OG at overgrow and here long before the even the 1st SB backcross came out.
I also remember a post from Rez, when BOG had left here and ended his business relationship with Gypsy, rez posted about the Sour bubble coming from a bubba cross--which looking at SB and looking at bubba-and then looking at the bubblegums--is entirely plausible.
I always believed the Tahoe Chemdog story, I didn't buy this when I first seen it, but IDK Steve Tuck's Origin of OG Kush
I have found both OG Kush and Bubba Kush phenotypes in the Sour Bubble that I have grown out... so undoubtedly they are linked in some way some how... initially my hunch was that there was an outcrossing by BOG or some Kush's popped Nanners and seeded the BogBubble, but...
the way I understand what BOG is claiming is NOT that OG was found in his Sour Bubble line...
but that a phenotype very similar to his Sour Bubble cutting (that was supposed to be found in his BogBubble population) was discovered by some OGers and used in their breeding to create OG Kush...
so I wasn't on Overgrow... so I don't know... was BogBubble already around before OG Kush started showing on the boards???
I have found both OG Kush and Bubba Kush phenotypes in the Sour Bubble that I have grown out... so undoubtedly they are linked in some way some how... initially my hunch was that there was an outcrossing by BOG or some Kush's popped Nanners and seeded the BogBubble, but...
the way I understand what BOG is claiming is NOT that OG was found in his Sour Bubble line...
but that a phenotype very similar to his Sour Bubble cutting (that was supposed to be found in his BogBubble population) was discovered by some OGers and used in their breeding to create OG Kush...
so I wasn't on Overgrow... so I don't know... was BogBubble already around before OG Kush started showing on the boards???
Brother that isnt even the half of it...
I'm a little reticent to bring this up... I'm not one to stir shit up but the truth needs to come out...
Arjan invented GSC cookies.... I know I couldnt believe at first either but the king told me the story first hand and its sounds pretty legit...
Back in 06 Arjan was in the Greenhouse, breeding and shit, working on a new Arjan Haze when he accidentally cross pollinated an Arjan haze #4 with Arjan haze#6 or maybe Arjan haze #7...
and you guessed it... the resulting progeny spawned "Cookies"
But now heres where it gets really wild he even named it too...
This was right around the time he had an industrial accident and spilled sts all over himself and his pecker fell off...
So he was feeling pretty bummed about that, so started to wear a kilt to feel more manly... and his boy Busta Rhymes had just given him a sash to wear that said "king of cannabis"
So one day these rude americans came into the coffee shop and saw Arjan in his kilt and sash and said "hey you look like a fucking girl scout"
Needless to say that bummed the king out even more... but Arjan being the awesome dude he his said "hey thats cool why dont you try the new strain I created I call it Arjan Haze #47 ... errr ... GS Cookies"
But little did he know that in the bud he gave the yanks there was a single seed that they brought back to america, a land devoid of good genetics... and named it GS Cookies in honor of the King...
^true story
i dont care where it came from or who created it really. as long as its potent. and sour bubble is good stuff. some of my best seeds have come from simple pollen chuckers tho.
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Iron_Lion
it's hard to take that guy seriously. It seems like he only understands half of what he is talking about the other half is pure bullshit.
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Mtn Dew
I thought i read somewhere that Soma was given NYCD seeds from some dude with dreadlocks? lol
Maybe these 'breeders' are just pulling peoples legs, but maybe they are stoned bullsh*t artists that can't really remember what they have said in the past?
Dont think they are pulling everyone's legs I think theya re tryn to keep shit cool between themselves so ppl don't feel like their toes were stepped on and everyone remains friends
for sure... thats more or less what I meant by not really buying what he said when I first saw the video, It just seemed to align it's self with what BOG was telling me when I had asked him about an OG Kush comment he made a month or 2 back.
but to be honest...
I don't really care where OG came from... though I feel it does share heritage with the Chem family and has Sour Diesel traits (possibly from the Chem Ancestry they have in common, if not a direct relation); weather one or more of those were crossed with a SB Pheno of BogBubble to create OG Kush, I don't know... maybe not, maybe OG was just a Nanner Popping creation, maybe OG Nanner popping was how the SB got into BOG's BogBubble line... it really makes little difference to me...
I know Sour Bubble is an awesome strain and is very stable in my experience with it... thats all I really need to know, anything more is just interesting to me
Peace,
Infi
Sour Bubble, imo, has nothing to do with OG KUSH. They are very different plants. I wonder how many people on IC have even smoked REAL og genetics. Not pollen chucks sent around the world but the real clone. If you have you would know SB and OG are not even closely related. imho
Russka, alot of fields alot of mushrooms. Some use salt licks to deter them growing.
I would say it's obvious that Bushy said that OG Kush came from BogBubble and or Bogglegum.
Not really that hard to believe the the BogBubble line could be part of the OG Kush plant. Bushy's Sour Bubble is very Kush like, and I've seen many lanky Kush like plants from the BogBubble line over the years.
IMO it would be very easy to create an OG Kush like plant from the BogBubble line with the right parents if you wanted.
Like the OP said, Chimera's DNA testing would easily resolve this.
True or not, who knows. Bushy even said he cant prove the claim.
Not really that hard to believe the the BogBubble line could be part of the OG Kush plant. Bushy's Sour Bubble is very Kush like, and I've seen many lanky Kush like plants from the BogBubble line over the years.
IMO it would be very easy to create an OG Kush like plant from the BogBubble line with the right parents if you wanted.
Like the OP said, Chimera's DNA testing would easily resolve this.
True or not, who knows. Bushy even said he cant prove the claim.
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bog originally stands for big og.
all the chems came from crazy phenos from hybrids made from his lifesaver.
the guy is the originator.
all the chems came from crazy phenos from hybrids made from his lifesaver.
the guy is the originator.
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MrSterling
This is the strangest thread ever.
"Originally Posted by CalcioErba2004
If weed was candy, OG would be taking a handful of skittles and shoving them in your mouth."
True og is far far far from sweet. More like funky dank skunk with some fuel and some tangy sour perhaps. Imo if your tasting skittles your not tasting true og.
If weed was candy, OG would be taking a handful of skittles and shoving them in your mouth."
True og is far far far from sweet. More like funky dank skunk with some fuel and some tangy sour perhaps. Imo if your tasting skittles your not tasting true og.
Whatever... I do know that I sat with BOG last year after D&M Compassion Center won the High Times Medical Cup in San Francisco for the best hybrid strain of the year - OG KUSH
We smoked some Sour Bubble and both noticed similarities.
I personally find the OG easier on my lungs, but the Sour Bubble kicks me in the head more.
Otherwise, please keep the thread on topic and not give in to bashing other people and strains for the hell of it... any and all that create strains from other lines are to be respected for their work.
Life itself is a work in progress... and a progression one hopes towards peace.
We smoked some Sour Bubble and both noticed similarities.
I personally find the OG easier on my lungs, but the Sour Bubble kicks me in the head more.
Otherwise, please keep the thread on topic and not give in to bashing other people and strains for the hell of it... any and all that create strains from other lines are to be respected for their work.
Life itself is a work in progress... and a progression one hopes towards peace.
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Mtn Dew
IMO its disrespect to the SB to call its lineage OG . The sourbubble is way more potent then the OG's ive had . I think OG i think pepper citrus tangy skunky diesle over tones .
Sour bubble is more less like grape bubblegum and sour lemons mixed together . I take bx 3 or 4 over any cu of kush any day . just my 2 pennies. Sourbubble i had walked all over any kush ive had to date including bubbas and Og's
Sour bubble is more less like grape bubblegum and sour lemons mixed together . I take bx 3 or 4 over any cu of kush any day . just my 2 pennies. Sourbubble i had walked all over any kush ive had to date including bubbas and Og's
I grew out a seed pack of SB when I was still a novice. Would Deffo try again...
There would be a connection between SB and OG K.. It is easy to taste similarities between REAL OG KUSH (which was my signature strain before it was adulterated beyond recognition..) and Sour Diesel.. They are Closely related... Sour Bubble has SD, No..?
With all due repsect (sincerely) "Skittles" -- is not a taste you'd relate to OGK. Although Seedpacks have been made of OG K - pollen-chucks or whatever - and maybe someone called a phenotype from a seedpack "OG KUSH..." Happens all the time.
I see SO many people here have not had the real thing. It is tough to make judgements based on incomplete information. The OG K I grew was the original Chemdog Cut, before anyone had it in seed form. Hippies hated the name Chem, so it was called OG K. At leasst that is what my Circle did. The Cut came to me already 23 years old. Via Boston, Mass. And that was 8+ years in the past, to this day..
It was rare, and Greenhouse-Grown Organic "OG K" 3 successive Unofficial Underground Harvest Competitions in this area. (WWW was the acronym for the event) The Greenhouse Grown Organic Flowers commanded high prices and much attention from LA Rock and Rap Stars, as well as everyone who came in contact with it. OGK Still has that effect on people, and is still in demand. It still yields low, but some people claim to have higher-yielding phenotypes.. THAT is where adulteration creeps in - as well.
But, if it has the flavour profile, and narcotic-effect, OG K is a real Crowd pleaser. Women Particularly love it. EXCELLENT taste. Pine., Diesel, Dank., Charred Meat, grown well, there are NOT TOO MANY VARIETIES BETTER> Most people I know agree.. I live in the Heart of the Em Tri.. Need I say more..
IMHO, growing out the Real Cut became NOT worth it financially at some point. Not a big enough yielder to survive the Darwin Test when prices came down to close to the same levels as other Elites... One of my Friends claims to have a higher producing OG Cut for me, we will see about that.
Now, the same thing is happening to the market with the GSC strain (OGK x GDP/Durban Poison), and I haven't even flowered out any fully, due to a conquered problem with Broad Mites..! Funny Scene..
Having Said that...
I am Growing a Seed Mom of the Chem Valley Kush. SFV OG K x Chem D.. Clones taken, but not flowered yet. The Seed Mom is 8+ feet tall in a greenhouse, with a million branches. In third week of Flower. A Monster. Looks great.
Also, have a few of the GSCookies in there as well. Not quite as tall, but I can't see the top of the plants, thats fo Sho.
Good Luck With All..!!
There would be a connection between SB and OG K.. It is easy to taste similarities between REAL OG KUSH (which was my signature strain before it was adulterated beyond recognition..) and Sour Diesel.. They are Closely related... Sour Bubble has SD, No..?
With all due repsect (sincerely) "Skittles" -- is not a taste you'd relate to OGK. Although Seedpacks have been made of OG K - pollen-chucks or whatever - and maybe someone called a phenotype from a seedpack "OG KUSH..." Happens all the time.
I see SO many people here have not had the real thing. It is tough to make judgements based on incomplete information. The OG K I grew was the original Chemdog Cut, before anyone had it in seed form. Hippies hated the name Chem, so it was called OG K. At leasst that is what my Circle did. The Cut came to me already 23 years old. Via Boston, Mass. And that was 8+ years in the past, to this day..
It was rare, and Greenhouse-Grown Organic "OG K" 3 successive Unofficial Underground Harvest Competitions in this area. (WWW was the acronym for the event) The Greenhouse Grown Organic Flowers commanded high prices and much attention from LA Rock and Rap Stars, as well as everyone who came in contact with it. OGK Still has that effect on people, and is still in demand. It still yields low, but some people claim to have higher-yielding phenotypes.. THAT is where adulteration creeps in - as well.
But, if it has the flavour profile, and narcotic-effect, OG K is a real Crowd pleaser. Women Particularly love it. EXCELLENT taste. Pine., Diesel, Dank., Charred Meat, grown well, there are NOT TOO MANY VARIETIES BETTER> Most people I know agree.. I live in the Heart of the Em Tri.. Need I say more..
IMHO, growing out the Real Cut became NOT worth it financially at some point. Not a big enough yielder to survive the Darwin Test when prices came down to close to the same levels as other Elites... One of my Friends claims to have a higher producing OG Cut for me, we will see about that.
Now, the same thing is happening to the market with the GSC strain (OGK x GDP/Durban Poison), and I haven't even flowered out any fully, due to a conquered problem with Broad Mites..! Funny Scene..
Having Said that...
I am Growing a Seed Mom of the Chem Valley Kush. SFV OG K x Chem D.. Clones taken, but not flowered yet. The Seed Mom is 8+ feet tall in a greenhouse, with a million branches. In third week of Flower. A Monster. Looks great.
Also, have a few of the GSCookies in there as well. Not quite as tall, but I can't see the top of the plants, thats fo Sho.
Good Luck With All..!!
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