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The Farmhouse
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DHF
You know.....I started out with GH 3 part and ran it for almost 20 yrs from krusty buckets all the way through coco DTW , and I never rolled without it for the express reason you`re experiencing fading leaves and light green new growth FHC....but.....
Most everyone these days mimics the "Lucas and or Rez" 0-8-16 and 0-6-9 with what they say is dialed results..... that said.....
I`ve never cut off the grow till end of stretch for that extra ooomph ta get my bitches as big as I could get em before swellage set in.......so....
IME....The micro has N yes , but it`s not the same as intraveinous injections of pure N from a sprayer right dead on the roots for major absorption and results instantaneously Bro.....
My 2 cents from all them yrs....DHF....
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Most everyone these days mimics the "Lucas and or Rez" 0-8-16 and 0-6-9 with what they say is dialed results..... that said.....
I`ve never cut off the grow till end of stretch for that extra ooomph ta get my bitches as big as I could get em before swellage set in.......so....
IME....The micro has N yes , but it`s not the same as intraveinous injections of pure N from a sprayer right dead on the roots for major absorption and results instantaneously Bro.....
My 2 cents from all them yrs....DHF....
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this is one thing i have to disagree on, i have tried feeding veg food for the first couple weeks of flower twice, both times my plants that get str8 flower food ( without boost) out grow the ones getting veg food, they streatch bigger and faster, two of my grow friends found the same thing, go figure,
not in my grow, seems the switch from high n to flower ratios promote stretch, i know it is backwards to what we know but i have seen it with my own eyes more than once.more N = more stretch
farmhouse cat
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12 days of flower. The environment in the room has been exceptional, humidity has been spot on at 70%rh and the room is hummin along at 85 with 900-1200ppm.
Everything is going well, except of course the conditions have changed. The condensate water from the AC and dehumi can no longer keep up, i have to add water back daily now as the plants are supercharged, drinking a ton and growing extremely fast.
The co2 absorption went up alot, from running 1 maybe 2 times an hour, to 3-4 x an hour.
I can hardly keep up with the nutrients they are eating a ton. Sometimes as much as 100ppm in a day, and this is only day 12.
I knew things were going to change with the added co2 but this is crazy. Plants are getting super thick and hardy.
There's spots on the canopy that i should probably supercrop. But so far i haven't pulled the trigger. Need a push....
Todays update pics.
Everything is going well, except of course the conditions have changed. The condensate water from the AC and dehumi can no longer keep up, i have to add water back daily now as the plants are supercharged, drinking a ton and growing extremely fast.
The co2 absorption went up alot, from running 1 maybe 2 times an hour, to 3-4 x an hour.
I can hardly keep up with the nutrients they are eating a ton. Sometimes as much as 100ppm in a day, and this is only day 12.
I knew things were going to change with the added co2 but this is crazy. Plants are getting super thick and hardy.
There's spots on the canopy that i should probably supercrop. But so far i haven't pulled the trigger. Need a push....
Todays update pics.
farmhouse cat
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DHF..it worked! lol
There is an issue that might become a problem later. The RH at lights out of course rises. I tried an experiment. I set the RH to 50% lights out. My dehumi couldnt bring it down past about 67% over a few hours.
I wonder if i should add an exhaust fan to fire up a few times during the night cycle? Also..
im diggin the GH, and especially the SM-90! The roots are exploding! and staying white as can be. The synthetic nutes are immediately ready to be absorbed and the plants are lovin it.
There is an issue that might become a problem later. The RH at lights out of course rises. I tried an experiment. I set the RH to 50% lights out. My dehumi couldnt bring it down past about 67% over a few hours.
I wonder if i should add an exhaust fan to fire up a few times during the night cycle? Also..
im diggin the GH, and especially the SM-90! The roots are exploding! and staying white as can be. The synthetic nutes are immediately ready to be absorbed and the plants are lovin it.
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Lookin' marvy. Picked up a jug o' SM90 for the next run myself - will be only fractionally epic as yours, but I'm just happy to play along!
Lookin' marvy. Picked up a jug o' SM90 for the next run myself - will be only fractionally epic as yours, but I'm just happy to play along!
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DHF
Glad things`re workin out fer yas FHC.....and concerning the elevated RH levels during lights off.....Hell yeah....
Set yas up an active exhaust to get rid of residual CO2 concentrations as well as the excess humidity from the increased transpiration....See....
Plants eat CO2 durin lights on , and shit out what they didn`t eat/metabolize durin lights off , and trust me....
Yas don`t want elevated CO2 levels anywhere NEAR your exposed rootzones during the dark period in an aero setup....so.....handle it.....and....
Waaaay back in the day , Krusty was exhausting room air during lights off in his sealed rooms and never told anyone why cuz he was a sneaky fuck and liked watchin folks fuck up and come beggin .....but....I digress....
I learned later on from personal experience once Heath taught me bout air exchange twice per minute that CO2 and RH levels elevated during lights off , especially after end of stretch during full swellage , and I really found out the truth when I found the lil CO2 monitors yas hang in the rooms like thermometer/hygrometers.... anyways ....
Watch the CO2 ppm`s above 900 , cuz it`ll reflect in lights off concentrations from the plants expelling through the transpiration process with excess humidity.....Now.....
Josey Wales.....I`ve heard time and again what you`re screamin bout not usin the "grow' once flippin the plants 12/12 with better results only runnin micro and bloom .....but.....
Yas gotta understand that my ppm levels were sub par from the get compared to what most folks have always run for nutrient concentrations , and I STILL stand by the grow in 2-3 ml per gal till end of stretch to keep ppm`s in the 750 range , then drop it and adjust accordingly once full swellage is in force.....and again....
Nitrogen during flower is a much debated and heated discussion in the medville forums cuz there`s some old heads that run it up till last couple weeks swellage and then cut it off....with bigtime dialed results........but....
As mentioned above.....Nutrient requirements vary drastically from plant to plant and are VERY strain dependent since all we mostly have these days are bigtime "Polyhybrids" with God only knows how many genepools have contributed to.....that said....
Go with what works for you..period....
Waitin fer killer pulls outta the farmhouse Bro.....Keep up the good work....and....
Don`t be slackin on gettin rid of all the uneeded foliage once stretch is fully over cuz it`s already crowded in there , and we don`t want any plants chokin each other out competing for light OR environment....
Peace....Freds...........
Set yas up an active exhaust to get rid of residual CO2 concentrations as well as the excess humidity from the increased transpiration....See....
Plants eat CO2 durin lights on , and shit out what they didn`t eat/metabolize durin lights off , and trust me....
Yas don`t want elevated CO2 levels anywhere NEAR your exposed rootzones during the dark period in an aero setup....so.....handle it.....and....
Waaaay back in the day , Krusty was exhausting room air during lights off in his sealed rooms and never told anyone why cuz he was a sneaky fuck and liked watchin folks fuck up and come beggin .....but....I digress....
I learned later on from personal experience once Heath taught me bout air exchange twice per minute that CO2 and RH levels elevated during lights off , especially after end of stretch during full swellage , and I really found out the truth when I found the lil CO2 monitors yas hang in the rooms like thermometer/hygrometers.... anyways ....
Watch the CO2 ppm`s above 900 , cuz it`ll reflect in lights off concentrations from the plants expelling through the transpiration process with excess humidity.....Now.....
Josey Wales.....I`ve heard time and again what you`re screamin bout not usin the "grow' once flippin the plants 12/12 with better results only runnin micro and bloom .....but.....
Yas gotta understand that my ppm levels were sub par from the get compared to what most folks have always run for nutrient concentrations , and I STILL stand by the grow in 2-3 ml per gal till end of stretch to keep ppm`s in the 750 range , then drop it and adjust accordingly once full swellage is in force.....and again....
Nitrogen during flower is a much debated and heated discussion in the medville forums cuz there`s some old heads that run it up till last couple weeks swellage and then cut it off....with bigtime dialed results........but....
As mentioned above.....Nutrient requirements vary drastically from plant to plant and are VERY strain dependent since all we mostly have these days are bigtime "Polyhybrids" with God only knows how many genepools have contributed to.....that said....
Go with what works for you..period....
Waitin fer killer pulls outta the farmhouse Bro.....Keep up the good work....and....
Don`t be slackin on gettin rid of all the uneeded foliage once stretch is fully over cuz it`s already crowded in there , and we don`t want any plants chokin each other out competing for light OR environment....
Peace....Freds.....
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farmhouse cat
Member
Im on it Fred.
Ive got a 6 inch fan im gonna mount on the ceiling. What i haven't decided yet is if i should cut a passive intake hole to feed the exhaust? Theres only one way for air to get inside the room now and that is through the co2 ducting, which i think could be enough? but not sure. Its gonna make things a little tricky for sure...temps outside of the grow room in the garage are like 110 degrees.
Ive got a 6 inch fan im gonna mount on the ceiling. What i haven't decided yet is if i should cut a passive intake hole to feed the exhaust? Theres only one way for air to get inside the room now and that is through the co2 ducting, which i think could be enough? but not sure. Its gonna make things a little tricky for sure...temps outside of the grow room in the garage are like 110 degrees.
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DHF
Sorry Bro....but....there`s gotta at least be a passive intake for the exhaust to even perform and pull out excess RH and CO2 concentrations lights off......so.....
An active intake on a speed controller so as to not over run the exhaust and push smell out the cracks is optimal.....
All that`s gotta be done to offset the highass garage temps gettin pumped into the intake is to dial that bad ass minisplit to compensate for lights off ambient temps runnin intake and exhaust , and ......
Even though you`ll be losin some conditioned air "if needed" , yas`ll be dialin your environment to the tits and guaranteed results will ensue.....bet on it ...... Hell.....
The A/C`ll help dehumidify as well......anyways....
Get on it and make shit happen....I expect nothin less than excellence cuz you`re that good....Environment`s everything , and you can do this....
Peace....Freds.........
An active intake on a speed controller so as to not over run the exhaust and push smell out the cracks is optimal.....
All that`s gotta be done to offset the highass garage temps gettin pumped into the intake is to dial that bad ass minisplit to compensate for lights off ambient temps runnin intake and exhaust , and ......
Even though you`ll be losin some conditioned air "if needed" , yas`ll be dialin your environment to the tits and guaranteed results will ensue.....bet on it ...... Hell.....
The A/C`ll help dehumidify as well......anyways....
Get on it and make shit happen....I expect nothin less than excellence cuz you`re that good....Environment`s everything , and you can do this....
Peace....Freds....
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farmhouse cat
Member
I knew this...sometimes i just need a push. So heres my plan.
Install a six inch fan on the ceiling hooked to my controller set to whatever lights off RH i need. I have some dark room louvers (just need one) laying around for a passive intake i can install at ground level, . I place a six inch fan flush against it on the inside sucking outside air through the louver hooked to a fan speed controller and piggybacked to the ceiling fan to power on together.
As of right now my dehumi is programmed to ON and hooked to my controller, but i can set the dehumi to whatever need be, it doesnt need a controller.
So the ceiling exhaust fan/intake fan or ( RH and excess co2 room clearout) will now be hooked to controller and set to whatever needed.
added insurance is a good thingy!! Thanks again.
Install a six inch fan on the ceiling hooked to my controller set to whatever lights off RH i need. I have some dark room louvers (just need one) laying around for a passive intake i can install at ground level, . I place a six inch fan flush against it on the inside sucking outside air through the louver hooked to a fan speed controller and piggybacked to the ceiling fan to power on together.
As of right now my dehumi is programmed to ON and hooked to my controller, but i can set the dehumi to whatever need be, it doesnt need a controller.
So the ceiling exhaust fan/intake fan or ( RH and excess co2 room clearout) will now be hooked to controller and set to whatever needed.
added insurance is a good thingy!! Thanks again.
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DHF
Overkill`s underrated....and.....I knew yas just needed a push....so make it happen.....
I can see yas keepin lights off and on temps closer and closer for even more dialage , so time will tell.....
You da man....Freds.....
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farmhouse cat
Member
Ok im starting to put things in motion for my 2nd flower room. It of course will be aeroponic, the easiest and fastest system. I thought about another vert system, but ive had this sog itch for a while and i need to scratch it.
It going to be a 4x8 SOG with 2 600s on a light mover. I can fit 128 fresh rooted clones in that space for budsicles.
This room will be 1 month behind the vert room. No mothers, all clones will come from the veg plants headed for the vert.
Here is how the timeline will work.
Before moving my 50 vegged plants to the vert room, i take 128 clones for the sog and 50 more for the next vert run +20 or so more for extra ins. Thats about 200 clones.
4 weeks later (plenty of time) I move 128 of the best clones to the sog and flip the switch. The remaining clones go to my veg tent for the vert room. And so on and so forth...
This will set up a perpetual monthly harvest. each room a month apart, assuming im working with 8 weekers..otherwise..well times change a little.
This Sog room is planned for after the summer heat to utilize 2x a minute air exchange. And not have to worry about cooling etc.
Ok...im caught thinking out loud again. Anyone have any tips then fire away.
It going to be a 4x8 SOG with 2 600s on a light mover. I can fit 128 fresh rooted clones in that space for budsicles.
This room will be 1 month behind the vert room. No mothers, all clones will come from the veg plants headed for the vert.
Here is how the timeline will work.
Before moving my 50 vegged plants to the vert room, i take 128 clones for the sog and 50 more for the next vert run +20 or so more for extra ins. Thats about 200 clones.
4 weeks later (plenty of time) I move 128 of the best clones to the sog and flip the switch. The remaining clones go to my veg tent for the vert room. And so on and so forth...
This will set up a perpetual monthly harvest. each room a month apart, assuming im working with 8 weekers..otherwise..well times change a little.
This Sog room is planned for after the summer heat to utilize 2x a minute air exchange. And not have to worry about cooling etc.
Ok...im caught thinking out loud again. Anyone have any tips then fire away.
It sounds like a well thought out plan Farmhouse. Im sure you will be highly successful and have an abundance of good flowers soon.
Cat looks pretty blazed btw
Cat looks pretty blazed btw
