Gavita-Pro 1000w 400v (new generation hps)

[vwgtiron]

How about if the flip-flop does a cold flip? Power the ballast down, flip the lamp output relay, and power the ballast back up? It seems that this would be transparent to the ballast, and could easily be done with a micro-controller.

@Rives,
this is exactly what I do, the ballast power down one minute before the flip and then one minute after the flip they come back up.
@whazzup
In the instructions for the gavita PRO 1000w de it says that it can be used with switching gear, that it needs to be a 2 pole contactors.

 

[whazzup]

yes, switching gear for the mains power of course

Switching off and on for flips is not a problem, that's a safe way to flip. Live flipping will flip your ballast

 

[vwgtiron]

i will post some pics tomorrow of my veg and grow situation Whazzup. I was wondering if you would have any pointers on the light placement or anything else that you think would help with production. (if you have time).
THANKS for al you help
Ron

 

[whazzup]

sure, if it is about the pro 1000 it is on-topic.

 

[growshopfrank]

the box is labeled US version is that just 60hz or are there any other changes?

 

[vwgtiron]

pro 1000

pro 1000

sure, if it is about the pro 1000 it is on-topic.

OK, WHAZZUP here is a couple shots of my garden


I was wondering if the placement is right for the 1000's. I am waiting on the last set in row 4. These operate 1 on 1 off each side, flipping every 2 hours.
Also in veg would you replace the 600 mh with a 600 pro or a lep 300?

 

[vwgtiron]

I do have one bulb in the front that is burned out, I am waiting on a replacement.

 

[whazzup]

having them in 2 lines is good for the overlap, you are only going to waste light in your path in the middle, and there is where you have the best light because of the overlap. The fan in completely in the way on the left btw, and the distance from center light to light is probably a bit long. I recommend a path at the outside, not at the inside, as at the walls you will lose light.

It would be a lot easier to do this from measurements instead of pictures. No room is the same, there are some basic guidelines (which are not suitable for all rooms):

- keep the fixtures in the rows 3-3.5' apart (from center lamp)
- Distance between the rows 5-7' (depending on height of the fixture for overlap)
- Distance from the wall 2,-3' (less than half the distance between the rows and the fixtures)

Example (lamps 7' high, intensity in umol m-2 s-1 at 4,5' height):

You can clearly see the negative effect of the walls here.

 

[purpleberry]

Im really interested in getting one of these and see how it puts light down. The only issue i have is most gardens are bases off 4x4 areas for trays. Or in my case its just what i base everything off when using xxxl air cooled hoods. Running 3-3.5 apart is going to add another light to my rows, This would really mess with efficiency numbers in a given space and add power and heat to the room. example would be 4x16 I run 4lights now i would run 5 gavitas. I still like alot things about these light, Ill just have to get one and see if i can make them work.

 

[growshopfrank]

the box is labeled US version is that just 60hz or are there any other changes?

this seemed like a reasonable question

myself if I was trying to sell a product without any appreciable benefits but a few large disadvantages (240v only, integral lamp and ballast and of course the proprietary lamp) I would be a little more responsive to retailers

good luck buddy

hello hortilux its time to place an order

 

[vwgtiron]

this seemed like a reasonable question

myself if I was trying to sell a product without any appreciable benefits but a few large disadvantages (240v only, integral lamp and ballast and of course the proprietary lamp) I would be a little more responsive to retailers

good luck buddy


hello hortilux its time to place an order

GrowshopFrank

I am not the rep, but I will respond for whazzup. For one, he spends his own time on here, he does not post on here in an official capacity. He does answer questions, when he can. The 240v only is well met by standard US 220v power. 220v is nominal US power is derived at 208-240 nominal. You can power this on a 220v outlet. This gives you a huge advantage to run the ballast at 4.5 amps instead of 9 amps. As a grow shop owner this is information you should already know when you are selling ballasts. The ballast connected to the lamp is an advantage rather than a disadvantage, as you get less EMI being generated. This will definitely impact your PH meters if they are on a constant monitor. Dont believe me, plug any electric of mag ballast and take a PH reading with a monitor. I have had this so bad that 20ft away it was throwing my PPM readings off.

Second, these are offered in a remote ballast setup, if you taken the time to look at the gavita phillips website, they are shown on there. I know because I own 8 of these units. These are carried by Humboldt Nation and by Sunlight Supply, either of these distributors would have answered you questions.

Last these Bulbs are built by Phillips so they are hardly proprietary, not to mention that several chinese companies are making these bulbs along with Ushio producing them. However the Phillips bulb is longer lasting, better spectrum and throws more Micro Moles. here is a link to the Ushio
http://www.ushio.com/products/horticulture/hiluxgro.htm
scroll down and click on the Super HPS DE tab and you will see their bulb.
I think that your comment was misleading and you were being an ass.
And I laugh at you, when you replacing your bulbs, I still could go another year and have a better bulb than your hortilux new out of the box.

 

[vwgtiron]

Also these bulbs fluctuate at over 100,000hz as is spec'd in the product information sheet

 

[vwgtiron]

@purpleberry

the 3.5 spacing is for the overlap, you could run these directly over the top of the 4x4 and you would be fine. These lights cannot be air cooled. You mentioned that you were running magnums. Your realize you will need to get a mini split if you want to run these inside, or at least a decent window banger AC or a portable AC as you last option.

 

[growshopfrank]

And I laugh at you, when you replacing your bulbs, I still could go another year and have a better bulb than your hortilux new out of the box.[/QUOTE]

that may be true (but I doubt it)
the customer knows that they can buy a LU1000 lamp at any grow store good luck with your lamp

 

[purpleberry]

vwgtiron, Im looking at getting rid of air cooled hoods, So i do have the ac covered. You say 3.5 is for overlap. I would think with over lap i could space them farther apart not closer? Im looking at getting the most sqft of canopy for my watts with out loosing out on watts per sqft. The magnums i can run at 4.5x4.5 pretty easy esp with over lap. Im pretty much looking at adjustawings vs xxxl without glass vs gavitas. I have alot of xxxls i just put a adjustawing up and really didnt like it the xxxl is a better foot print. Im on my way to the grow shop to order a gavita now and set it up. Ill come back and give my opinion just on looks of the foot print, not that it means anything. lol
Im wondering if the sun light supply version thats coming out is going to be compatible with gavita as far as the hoods. I have a feeling they will have a better hood for covering 4x4 since thats what most all there hoods are designed to do.

 

[vwgtiron]

this may be true, however whazzup commented to me that the bulb produces 10% less mm per 1000, this is a 10% crop reduction. I also had the xxxl, then the adjust a wings, not the gavitas, the gavitas definitely outperform the adjust a wings and the xxxl. You will see!!! Good Luck, BTW he is saying overlap at the fixture being 7ft high. I think

 

[vwgtiron]

If you carry the phillips bulb they can also do this. I do not see your point. The phillips outperforms the LU1000 by 20%. So I can spend almost as much for the bulb and lose 20%. Your people are not going to be in business long

 

[greenwithenvy]

lol Gavita and Phillips kick all asses.

 

[LyryC]

Gavita also produces The GAVITA Pro 300 LEP (Light Emitting Plasma)

for 1250.00 you can have this system in your place(USA).

No noise, No fans to cool it, no tubing/ducting. Insanely powerful and great spectrum, only problem is the price.

Anyone here use that LEP from Gavita?

 

[junkieman]

hey great chart wazzup ... so does this work for hps - lep combo

also what distance from canopy for seedlings ,early veg and flowering with 1000 pro and lep ///