Blue Dream day 30 still no development?

[Greeco]

Hi everyone I am flowering a new cut of Blue Dream I acquired and have noticed the plant is not flowering like normal. All my Ion ratios are correct, I mean the plants look perfect. I thought at first this might be mosaic virus but I'm unsure because I think the leaves would have bleached out by now if that is a true symptom? Here are some pictures. Any help is really appreciated. I think I am going to have to pull all these girls sterilize everything and start over fresh =(. Any pros out there to help me out. I might have gotten a bad cut who knows. this has never happened to me.

Medium- Peat Moss
PH- 5.7
Rh- 55%
Average temp- 77F
All elemental ppm ratios have been checked and are correct.

 

[northstate]

Greeco- The first thing that jumps out is the PH you say 5.7? seems really low for soil/soiless. Red petioles in your pics with some twisting tell me possible Phosphorus uptake issues. The BD we have has narrower leaves but your plant has a hazy structure to it but it could be a mis-labeled or fake cut. Entirely possible in this game. Lets see what the rest of the community has to say. NS

 

[Greeco]

Thanks Northstate 4 the reply. 5.7 is good for peat moss. Just like 5.7-6.0 is good for coco. Maybe Phosphorus uptake is off. I will change the following and see if any changes occur.

Add citric acid- "to make sure P is water soluable"
Bacillus- to make sure P is soluble
Ful power- Fulvic/humic acid product to help with ion intake,cell energy, bacillus food,chealating agent.

I will due the following tomorrow night, any other ideas guys/gals?

 

[VagPuncher]

Light leak.

 

[slshemup]

silly question i know though are you 12 hrs on/12 hrs off for flower you might even have to drop to 10 hrs on 14 off to really force it to flower ?have they noticeably slowed down in growth rate at all?are there any tips starting to shoot white hairs?as vagpuncher says any light leaking into growroonm when the lights are off? from what i can see they look healthy.i have seen white rhino that was in a grow with other strains that all had mosaic virus though the rhino did not show any visual virus traits it looked quite healthy, only slower grow and flower it took nearly 3 weeks longer in grow to get to the same height as previos grows for change to 12/12 for flowering and about the same extra time in flower to get them to a acceptable finish flower size.the other strains really showed the virus traits and were a waste of time with crappy super minimal yeilds.the rhino had a mild resistance to mosaic virus.

 

[Greeco]

I don't have any light leaks that's for sure. I sealed the hell out of the room and have been in there during lights off in veg to make sure. I looking for new genetics now and will let them go until I have plants vegged enough to take over.

 

[Peacemonger]

Moasic

Moasic

I can't tell from those pictures if you could put one up that had a closer view of a single "Hand" With some streaking or a pattern of blotches it would help. I see a couple of leaves bent to one side this may or may not be a symptom. I have always grown mothers in soil and there clones in hydro so I would not be able to comment on your medium but 5.7 runoff in hydo would be almost perfect. In soil it would be too low possibly causing a nute lockout. Also I would look for bugs "Mites" as there are some areas that look munched opon.You can have a somewhat successful grow even with "Mosaic" as I have discovered. Your plants just won't be optimum as far as yield and over all vigor and quality.The blue dream I was not that impreseed with the overall quality ,they had great smell and bag appeal but the stone/high was lacking IMHO. dream had very thin leaves that where very,very, "Clustered" and dense appearing not like what I see there.But 30 days in 12/12 something is wrong may want to pull em. All the best.

 

[TribalSeeds]

I thought 6.5 was ideal for peat

 

[marijuana]

they look hardy and have good growth so it might have been something to do with the mother these clippings came from. sick or maladjusted mother can really mess up the clippings because they are essentially the same plant.

 

[astartes]

If it's not a light leak, are you sure that your lighting is actually turning on/off at 12 hr intervals? Perhaps an issue with a faulty timer...

a.

 

[Ground Up]

If it's not a light leak, are you sure that your lighting is actually turning on/off at 12 hr intervals? Perhaps an issue with a faulty timer...

a.

Yup better check timer.. sounds like its kicking on.. pull it manually if needed........did you get a surge or stretch when you flipped them?

 

[Greeco]

thanks everyone for the good ideas. IDK what exactly the problem was but I am pulling everything. timers were working correctly. I live where my garden is and we all know you can see when the light is on ha. looks like the entrance to heaven lol. The PH might have been too low for peat moss. Especially because peat has a natural PH of like 3-4. So thats pretty darn low. My teacher however was the one who told me to PH my nutrient solution to 5.7 and he has been growing in 100% peat for a while. So I'm confused. Defiantly in the red now !! Need a quick good yielding strain to get back on track. Like BD again haha. Again thanks for all the advice everyone.

 

[Greeco]

Yup better check timer.. sounds like its kicking on.. pull it manually if needed........did you get a surge or stretch when you flipped them?

Yeah I got a huge stretch. The thing that confuses me the most is that if the PH was causing some kind of lockout. Usually P first since it becomes insoluble extremely fast. Wouldn't I have res stems and leaves that look bad? I mean everything was green and beautiful. That is why I assumed that if was some kind of virus. Also the peat I use is buffered with gypsum. This grow has me extremely worried. I am switching back to coco to ensure it wasn't a lock out of ions. But I really hope I didn't have a virus. I will be disinfecting everything with Windex, multi-surface antibacterial spray. Then re-disinfecting with alcohol. Help me grow gods!! I can't fail again, its to expensive!

 

[cocktail frank]

pistils look burnt?
might have some mites.

 

[Greeco]

Hey guys I was wondering if my stain could have anything to do with intoxicating my plants to prevent flowering. I used minxax stain like 4 days before putting plants into the room. I have read that during the curing process it can be toxic. But the interesting thing would then be how the hell did I have such a good stretch? Lol the plants doubled in size and looked 100% healthy. I'm really irritated that I can't find the reason this happened and am scared it will happen again if I dont solve the puzzle. The ac evaporation coils were also really dirty in the ac unit for the house. Which I was using so I'm thinking that might have played a part as well. Any stain knowledgable people out there that could confirm my theory? My ph was good I tested the old medium in the room. Everything was good honestly ph,ionic ratios, humidity, and temperatures. This is driving me crazy!! I have new plants in the room now but am having problems with temperatures since the old piece of shit house has no R factor anywhere but the ceiling which caused the old ac unit to go out. After I just fixed it too ><. I had to clean out the evaporator coils since the residents before me were running the ac with no filter. Had no air pressure in my vents. Any thoughts on stain and air quality being a problem with flowering please let me know. Just don't know if these factors could stop flowering all together??

 

[Greeco]

Almost forgot the paint I used was latex based but I mean no company is producing lead paint anymore so It's a no brainer there.