vertical cfl cab, 1,2sqf, C99BX1 & Co

[Mister_D]

many ways to skin a mule, but few optimal ways .

Quoted for truth . Your plants look very healthy and happy, no reason to think they couldn't handle being topped without skipping a beat. I'm personally against topping, unless i'm making a mother . Probably just a lil jaded from the crazy clown pounding "NO STRESS" into my head for many years. Lots of people do it and it works well for their situation. That said and from what I can see, it looks like you have plenty of vertical space to work with. You've also got alot of open parts in that screen, instead of taking away plant matter, move it so it grows to fill those empty spaces . Remember the goal is to cover every inch of lit space for max yields.

 

[sgapetti]

Quoted for truth . Your plants look very healthy and happy, no reason to think they couldn't handle being topped without skipping a beat. I'm personally against topping, unless i'm making a mother . Probably just a lil jaded from the crazy clown pounding "NO STRESS" into my head for many years. Lots of people do it and it works well for their situation. That said and from what I can see, it looks like you have plenty of vertical space to work with. You've also got alot of open parts in that screen, instead of taking away plant matter, move it so it grows to fill those empty spaces . Remember the goal is to cover every inch of lit space for max yields.

I am basically daily moving branches around to fill the screen side by side , they are growing fast , from now on i will allow for the top to grow vertical as well , and i am removing all the small less dominant branches that generates only pop corn. By the time i flip them , i would like to have only singles vertical branches side by side all around and a will lollipop everything at ground level , i have a screen to feel as well at the bottom and maybe on top as well , will se.

Peace S

 

[sgapetti]

day 37 from seed

day 37 from seed

Feeding main container: water ( 9 ml alg a mix and 2,5 ml bioheaven X US gallon ) and one time 6ml fishmix and 1ml biogrow x US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: ( 9 ml fish mix ,9 ml alg a mix and 2,5 ml bioheaven X US gallon )

lights : 132 watt ( 60 w @ 2700k and 72 w @ 6400k , 18/6)
temps : min 75 max 80
RH : 71%

bondage

bird view

filling up nicely, they are growing more evenly now, tops stll a little lower than side branches , they will show in a few day above the canopy.Another little session of defoliating, all togheter 30/35 leaves in order to open up a bit for the lower branches .
Peace S

 

[focaskater]

that is a very good filled screen!

the first image of the last post is beautiful

 

[sgapetti]

that is a very good filled screen!

the first image of the last post is beautiful

Thx, will flip soon, but not yet.

Feeding main container: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow 9 ml alg a mix and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow 9 ml alg a mix and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

lights : 132 watt ( 60 w @ 2700k and 72 w @ 6400k , 18/6)
temps : min 75 max 80
RH : 65%

Started feeding , end of week 6 . Lollypopped the last undevelopped side branches and bottom leaves, took 6 clones for the first time, can come handy in the future. They are drinking a lot now, have to flip soon as i have no idea how they will stretch, but i will top the plants on the left side first as they are shorter then the rigth side, to see what the difference will be.
Peace S

 

[Mister_D]

Finally snipped yourself some clones . How are you going about rooting them? Container size? Lighting? Media? Did you add nutes to the intial wetting? I'm sure you've been doing your homework, but i'm curious none the less .

 

[sgapetti]

I had to pop that cherry I am just trying atm , i am planning a new flo cab, bit larger and more watt x sqf than this one, ( testing 500 watt cfl on a 2.6 sqf container as we speak ) by the time it is operational should be nice to have some moms i can take clones from to have a faster turnover, after everything is dialed to satisfaction. I am trying sepiolite and my organic soil for cloning, using those white 2 dl plastic cups, 3 with sepiolite and 3 with the organic soil ( 50% white Sphagnum moss , act like a sponge, keeps lots of water when wet and lots of air when dry ) as usual i am looking for a easy way, if they root in my organic soil full of nutrients i can just transplant and veg in same medium before flip. They are in a very humid spot in my basement, with a 11watt cfl

Take care buddy.
Peace S

 

[Mister_D]

Looks like a great start my man. Don't feel let down if they don't make it on your first try, cloning can be a tricky thing to nail down. What are your average temps in there? Approx. how much water did you add to each cup? You are using almost the same size cups I do, and i've found ~1 oz of water/nute per cup to be pretty ideal with coco and promix. Your soil with sepiolite should be pretty similar to promix. Either one should work fine, and I encourage you to keep using the same media you intend to finish in for cloning. Looking forward to seeing your new cab buddy . Wet dry cycle is extremely imporant when cloning. You want them to get almost dry enough to wilt before watering again. This sends a signal to the plant that it better grow roots or it's going to die. The better you master this wet/dry cycle the faster your clones will root.

 

[bobblehead]

Yeah... People tell me I'm a pro but I can't clone for shit...

 

[sgapetti]

Looks like a great start my man. Don't feel let down if they don't make it on your first try, cloning can be a tricky thing to nail down. What are your average temps in there? Approx. how much water did you add to each cup? You are using almost the same size cups I do, and i've found ~1 oz of water/nute per cup to be pretty ideal with coco and promix. Your soil with sepiolite should be pretty similar to promix. Either one should work fine, and I encourage you to keep using the same media you intend to finish in for cloning. Looking forward to seeing your new cab buddy . Wet dry cycle is extremely imporant when cloning. You want them to get almost dry enough to wilt before watering again. This sends a signal to the plant that it better grow roots or it's going to die. The better you master this wet/dry cycle the faster your clones will root.

been reading 2 years about clones, i never understood was the wet/dry cycle that makes to clones root, thx. I just soaked my medium and put the clones in it, not keeping those clones anyway, just playing to understand how it works . i will make sure they get dry in between then, solid info as usual, thx fratello
Peace S

 

[Mister_D]

It's a fine line between optimally dry and too dry, but if you watch your plants everyday it's not hard to see. They will usually root even if you water a little too soon, just takes a bit longer. However if you keep them too wet they will just rot after a couple weeks. Like all aspects of growing, just takes a lil practice. I'm sure you will do fine though .

 

[sgapetti]

46 days from seed, last day of veg

46 days from seed, last day of veg

Feeding main container: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow 9 ml alg a mix and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow 9 ml alg a mix and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

lights : 132 watt ( 60 w @ 2700k and 72 w @ 6400k , 11,5/12,5 )
temps : min 75 max 80
RH : 62%

lights off

lights on

left side

rigth side

front

Timer set @ 11,5/12,5 today, flipping to flo , this stretch is going to be very interesting.
Peace S

 

[sgapetti]

clones update

clones update

As said before, trying to clone for the first time some plants for my future moms setup.

3 in sepiolite ( bougth as cat litter, 7/8 dollar X 50 liter bag ) e 3 in organic sub, just soaked the medium and left in a cab with 85% rh , 11 watt cfl bulb and about 68 F and left alone, no rooting powder.

2 of the 3 in sepiolite as popped roots after 10 days, the one in the sub still no sign of roots
Something for bobblehead?
Peace S

 

[Mister_D]

Something for bobblehead?
Peace S

Man I laughed so hard when I read this my orange juice came out my nose . Congratulations on the clones making it . I knew you'd be fine, got the italian green thumb

 

[sgapetti]

7 days of 12/12

7 days of 12/12

@ Mister D , I almost choked my self when i wrote that

Feeding main container: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 9 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: 4,5 ml fishmix ,1 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 9 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

lights : 120 watt @ 2500k , 11,5/12,5 )
temps : min 75 max 80
RH : 62%

those looks hazy to me

mix feno? hazy as well?

end of first week of flo, changed to 120 watt @ 2500k, starting to increase the bloom formula, they are drinking 0,5 gallon every second day, sometime i wait 3 days, insane for my space.
Peace S

 

[sgapetti]

14 days of 12/12

14 days of 12/12

Feeding main container: 6 ml fishmix ,1,5 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 12 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: 6 ml fishmix ,1,5 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 9 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon


lights : 120 watt @ 2500k , 11,5/12,5 )
temps : min 75 max 80
RH : 57%

front

front

left side

Right side

Lollypopped everything in the shade, bottom and back , end of second week of bloom . Increasing the bloom formula and plants are responding well, ligth N def that i plan to keep that way , to much stretch is a no option as i am running out of space on the rigth side.

I finally build a cab for my moms project and snipped 2 clones each from 2 females found in a pack of sam the skunkman that i am growing with some crosses made by me for evaluation and moms selection

Peace S

 

[Mister_D]

It's a jungle in there

 

[soursmoker]

looking nice man

 

[rootidec]

you're a monster of micro!!!
holy shit I hope I can get that kind of density someday.
watching closely

 

[sgapetti]

day 21 of 12/12

day 21 of 12/12

It's a jungle in there

Ciao fratello D , looks like this time i will fill the cab

looking nice man

thx

you're a monster of micro!!!
holy shit I hope I can get that kind of density someday.
watching closely

Ciao root, will see how it ends, thx for the visit

Feeding main container: 5,75 ml fishmix ,2,25 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 12 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon

Feeding 2l container w 40% sepiolite: 5,75 ml fishmix ,2,25 ml biogrow, 9 ml alg a mix , 9 ml biobloom and 0.8 ml bioheaven X US gallon



lights : 120 watt @ 2500k , 11,5/12,5 )
temps : min 70 max 76
RH : 57%

front

front/up

left side

rigth side

detail tops hazy pheno

Looking nice in tha cab,feeding full bloom formula, still a very ligth N def ,nothing to worry about it. They may stretch a bit more but to many dominant branches, should be fine. A mix dank/pepper/lemon smell now. The colas are filling up nicely .
Peace S