heath inspired test prototype (aero)

[DHF]

Thamks fer the pics Bro....Gives me a lotta insight into future improvements if yas can adapt.....IOW......

I see a lotta stored nitrogen in the fans with stems I told yas ta get rid of , but hey.....it`s a red flag for yas ta drop ppm`s even moreso next run to allow the plants to translocate/cannibalize themselves of excess nitrogen that DIRECTLY affects swellage if not gotten under control by beginning of late flower....

I think your mix needs dialed down to less ppm`s with mostly bloom formula toward the end , but nitrogen can creep back in using additives and bloom boosters so again....things to ponder.....

Just tryin ta help and not tell yas what ta do.....Wish nuthin but the best fer yas Bro.....

Peace....DHF..........

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks DHF... its cray to think i should go even lower. I ran this batch at 500ish.

 

[wantaknow]

what substreight ?rockwool?looks killer,heath gets some massive yealds using the hog cut

 

[DHF]

I get this soooo much in that it`s not the lower ppm`s that make the difference although it is........but....

It`s what the ppm`s are made up of that determines the plants easiest way to metabolize their juice for dialed results......

That`s why I preach droppin grow by end of stretch while most folks don`t even use it cuz of Rez and Lucas formula , and reducing micro and addin more bloom for the phosphorous and potassium till the leaves left on the vine start fadin/yellowin off from suckin excess stored nitrogen till end of cycle ftw.....

The 500 ppm juice yas were runnin had too much of SOMETHIN nitrogen related bro , or all the leaves still left on the plants would be all but completely yellowed off , dying , and fallin on the floor...bet on it.....anyways....

You my hero fer rollin with the most volatile fast hydro setup known to God and man and killin it slowly but surely.....and....juice dialage is an art that takes yrs to perfect .....but.....you`re gettin there.....

Respect....DHF.........

 

[DHF]

Was gonna edit my post but my bulldawg caught a seagull and ate it before I could get down there .......Sorry God....My dawg`s carniverous....

FHC....I rolled with 750 ppms full bloom formula with dialed results with no residual Micro/N left by last 2 weeks flower till harvey , and I think that might help yas in the future for swellage of canopy , but it`s still strain dependent and finding their wants and needs for maxed results.....

Peace...Freds.........

 

[farmhouse cat]

Was gonna edit my post but my bulldawg caught a seagull and ate it before I could get down there .......Sorry God....My dawg`s carniverous....

FHC....I rolled with 750 ppms full bloom formula with dialed results with no residual Micro/N left by last 2 weeks flower till harvey , and I think that might help yas in the future for swellage of canopy , but it`s still strain dependent and finding their wants and needs for maxed results.....

Peace...Freds.........

Yea these strain (adub, dubtech 7) are not ones that swells much. Especially the adub. Its more of a strain that has lots of smaller golf ball buds but is super dense and heavy.

I think once i get rollin with the GH nutes i will have a little more control of residual N. thx for the tips Fred!

 

[Grizz]

Was gonna edit my post but my bulldawg caught a seagull and ate it before I could get down there .......Sorry God....My dawg`s carniverous....

FHC....I rolled with 750 ppms full bloom formula with dialed results with no residual Micro/N left by last 2 weeks flower till harvey , and I think that might help yas in the future for swellage of canopy , but it`s still strain dependent and finding their wants and needs for maxed results.....

Peace...Freds.........

hummm, got my attion again, hummm, nitrogen .got me thinkin again and thats dangerous.

 

[DHF]

I hear folks scream nitrogen increases budset and swellage , while the other side swears up and down that in the life/death cycle of a pot plant under natural conditions outside nitrogen breaks down earlier and causes the " fall colors " that increase swellage from more available phosphorous and potassium till chop......so....shit`s on the table and undecided....except....

IME...."inside".....lil to no nitrogen left in a juice concentration in hydro or coco setups on the way to the finish line = more swellage and purdy colors comin out with specific hybrids.....

My 2 cents...DHF.........

 

[bobblehead]

hummm, got my attion again, hummm, nitrogen .got me thinkin again and thats dangerous.

Don't do anything crazy joesy... and if you do, tell someone first so they know when to come looking...

Cut the N out slowly through flower... down to zero the last 3 weeks... It's the only way to go.

 

[DHF]

Sound advice from an up and comer Bobbles....With GH 3 part it took a lil longer to drop shit and get ppm`s leveled out with me using grow as well as micro while goin through stretch cuz I was a stubborn old fart from rollin like I`d been taught for so many yrs ...but....Anyways.....

Bobbles does better explaining scientifically on when rather than how to set things ta happening with diluted mixes for dialage in the long run..........

I always knew when what leaves were left were cannibalizin the stored nitrogen and yellowin off while adjusting ppms from droppin down to all but no micro , that mostly all bloom the last couple -3 weeks kept the plants swellin but fadin at the same time with diluted nutrients and dialed results till harvey.....anyways.....

The little things....DHF.........

 

[Grizz]

Sound advice from an up and comer Bobbles....With GH 3 part it took a lil longer to drop shit and get ppm`s leveled out with me using grow as well as micro while goin through stretch cuz I was a stubborn old fart from rollin like I`d been taught for so many yrs ...but....Anyways.....

Bobbles does better explaining scientifically on when rather than how to set things ta happening with diluted mixes for dialage in the long run..........

I always knew when what leaves were left were cannibalizin the stored nitrogen and yellowin off while adjusting ppms from droppin down to all but no micro , that mostly all bloom the last couple -3 weeks kept the plants swellin but fadin at the same time with diluted nutrients and dialed results till harvey.....anyways.....

The little things....DHF.........

exactly what im doing now, been getting good yields but even with a 10 day ro water only flush no yellowing fans. going to cut down on the floranova bloom and just us the o. 4 .5. part of the 3 part flora stuff the last 3 weeks. if that dont do it i will try it the last 4 weeks, right now ec is at 1.2

 

[bobblehead]

exactly what im doing now, been getting good yields but even with a 10 day ro water only flush no yellowing fans. going to cut down on the floranova bloom and just us the o. 4 .5. part of the 3 part flora stuff the last 3 weeks. if that dont do it i will try it the last 4 weeks, right now ec is at 1.2

Joesy before i got my gigantic reservoirs that i just dilute the micro out of... I would would use 50% micro in week 5, 25% in week six, and then pretty much cut it out from there depending.... When i dropped micro after 4 weeks, i had yellow leaves by week 6. Floranova bloom will take you to harvest. When you're buds burn pure white you'll know you did it right. Being deficient in N signals ripening.

 

[Grizz]

gracias bobble

 

[Grizz]

Joesy before i got my gigantic reservoirs that i just dilute the micro out of... I would would use 50% micro in week 5, 25% in week six, and then pretty much cut it out from there depending.... When i dropped micro after 4 weeks, i had yellow leaves by week 6. Floranova bloom will take you to harvest. When you're buds burn pure white you'll know you did it right. Being deficient in N signals ripening.

what ec or ppm are you running through flower ?

 

[bobblehead]

what ec or ppm are you running through flower ?

1.5EC tops... It goes cal/mg-micro-bloom-drip clean-silica-SM90... Then once i drop the cal/mg and micro, i also drop the drip clean... I've decided to keep the silica and sm90 up till the flush. Anyway, after a week my EC will drift down to 1.2 normally in the big tanks... Using straight RO I don't have to adjust pH... Idk, but my pH naturally drifts between 5.5 when i adjust nutes, and goes up to 6.2 as it dilutes down. Maybe i need a new probe... But that's the natural rythm and i don't adjust shit for pH.

 

[Grizz]

thanks, seems with r o water my ph flucuates more than it did with tap water. drives me crazy

 

[farmhouse cat]

This next run is gonna be fun dialing in the gh nutes. Not to mention i will be sealed up with AC and a co2 generator.

Josey.. try using half RO and half tap. Its what i do and it helps with the swing.

Started choppin. Heres one of the DT7's. And some blackberry kush that really purpled up.

 

[Sqydro]

that blackberry is stunnin lookin mate!

all ur plants are, top job

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks Buddy! I just ordered my mini split! Yay..my indecisive ass made a decision and followed through. lol 18k btu friedrich is on the way! Just in time too....its gonna be 90 deg today. I also just trashed 10, 4 ft tall adubs that were way overgrown in veg..it was painfull but I didnt want to flower them because it would have been way out of control!!

I still have about 10-14 days before i will have the room ready for the next batch..so hopefully my just rooted clones will take off in that time.

Harvest is still dryin...and ive got tons of work to do. Makes me thirsty!!! I wanna just crack a beer and sit by the pool.

 

[Hazed]

Thanks Buddy! I just ordered my mini split! Yay..my indecisive ass made a decision and followed through. lol 18k btu friedrich is on the way! Just in time too....its gonna be 90 deg today. I also just trashed 10, 4 ft tall adubs that were way overgrown in veg..it was painfull but I didnt want to flower them because it would have been way out of control!!

I still have about 10-14 days before i will have the room ready for the next batch..so hopefully my just rooted clones will take off in that time.

Harvest is still dryin...and ive got tons of work to do. Makes me thirsty!!! I wanna just crack a beer and sit by the pool.

Yeah that blackberry looks sweetassed! Cant wait till ya got some weights on this round, it looks pretty damned good from my perspective.

If ya got around to taking a few pics of roots that would be cool to look at, if/when ya have the time.

Don't feel bad about not being able to crack a cold one. Hell I am in the middle of moving the contents of my shop and residence basically single handed.
~Moving to a beautiful place though~
Got 50 veg plants sitting on pallets under a 1k and mover. Last night I let loose with a peritherin bomb in each hand,lol. Dead bugs covering the floor now. Gonna chop a flat grow and gather up a bunch of clones at the old place the 15th and that will be the last load outta there!

Best to yah...Hazed

ETA: I think DHF is right on the money bro. IME (35 yrs) fruits and vegetables ripen earlyier and have better grade (quality) and flavors when they don't have luxuriant amounts of N! Otherwise they can be woody and flavors/smells just arent there.
I think there is a lot to be gained by dialing in to where the plant gets just what it needs and no extra.
This why I am switching to hydro, as soon as the hot weather ends, way more control than coco/soil!