Is OGK still the most sought after cut(s) on the boards? ?

[Big City]

DNA testing will not eliminate the pleasure you get from growing the cuts you've collected over the years. any stellar plants you own.. are still stellar.

But, what it will will provide is some truth and clarity... In a world that desperately needs some. Practically every elite cut or strain has some kind of "mystery" or "misinformation" about the origins. We can put all those stories to bed and get some real answers.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Do guys really find much difference in high between the dif OG's??

Like is TK really THAT much better than any other OG?

Stop analyzing your high and fuckin' enjoy the ride my bruthas.

Yes and yes.

 

[Veg N Out]

If it were only so simple bro. There are great advantages to knowing for certain if this or that is related to this or that. The numbers have gotten large enough now that there's no sense barking up a known homozygous coupling in search of heterozygosity, or pissing around with preservation attempts of something further down the line than what you already hold. I understand that not everybody takes this shit so seriously, but me and mine do. And I'm not saying it would be proper to yank anybodies covers on these unfortunate matters, but at the same time certain acts are sacrilege to me. These types of jigs are definitely fucking up is what I am saying, so I damn sure hope everybody has their stories straight.-T

Quoted for truth....Doc..>Very out of character for you man...La La Land getting to you man?

 

[ThaDocta]

Honest mistake and y'all get your panties real tight.

Didn't everyone get what they wanted anyways? A super rare dank OG? Some people will never let it rest. What a joke.

 

[GrownOut]

One of the buds got a little too close to the vert bulb which bums me out but she is getting chunky it wont be too much longer. She is a beast and all you see there is almost all of her. She is very lanky and stretchy with golf ball sized nugs. Very dense and very frosty.

Cheers!!
-G/O

 

[SmokeTrees]

some og grown by subrob

Raskal

Tahoe

 

[Bueno Time]

I know clones are the way to go, but not an option for me. Is there a seedbank that has a good OG Kush out there? I love my Haze (Amazing Haze from Homegrown Fantaseeds), but I'd like to mix it up a bit.

Reserva Privada OG Kush Feminized are s1 from the cut. Pretty close to the mother.

 

[Peacemonger]

If I say larry Og. Will it cause total armegedon...? hahaha, I live in OG land. Larry is a favorite of mine. And , There is no knock-offs of larry it is or it is not. It's preety easy you taste the pine and if you have had the larry before it's not one thats easily ripped off. JMHO.I could be out in left field looking at my shoe strings..don't want to piss on anothers pissing contest.

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

Those Raskal nugs look insane. Nice shots ST and great growing as always by sub.

I've got Larry in veg so it's good to hear people saying good things....seems more than one have mentioned her as their favorite OG.

Here's some pics of my Lucifer OG f2 keeper that earned a spot in my garden this past year. She doesn't smell quite as nice as other OG's, kinda earthy, but she blows me away EVERY time we tango. Original Lucifer beans (Hell's Angel OG Kush x SFV OG Kush bx2) were made by Karma Genetics and f2's were made by MeltingPOT.

 

[FreedomFightr]

I also love Larry...I purchased a pack of seeds from CC. Came up with 3 males and 3 females. One of the females was a keeper. The other 2 were the same pheno. The 2 grew long and lanky and produced huge nugzz, I mean huge! but were a lil airy and not super dense. Still fire and lots of crystals....Then it hermed out and started autoflowering so I tossed it. But the one keeper grew more compact with big fat leaves all crowded together. This Pheno is a winner! super duper dense OG nuggs with tons and tons of crystals.....I have never seen so many sugar coated fan leaves before.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

C. A shitload of both and with regard to oodles of cuts from oodles of sources, but it may get even more interesting with regards to parentage claims from out there as well. Stay tuned for the next episode, like sand in an hourglass, these are the days of our labs.

Ive been working on this riddle for some time after doing plenty research
Familial dna testing will solve this riddle...
Im sure it has been done by the big boys GW/HF and feds already seeing they would be the only one's that could afford the process and would have some what of an idea of the parental make up and have enough samples to run the , evaluating software for familial DNA searching
you would have to have some idea of parental make up in order for it to be accurate

In US DNA testing of cannabis is a federal crime at moment takes special permit from DEA to do any type of lab work with cannabis FED's are doing it now !!! do a little search on google and youll be blown away at what you come up with


im curious to know what people opinions of OG parents are ???

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

dna testing of pot is not a good idea and not in our best interests.


http://geo.cbs.umn.edu/CannabisDNA.html

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Our laboratory is registered with the US Drug Enforcement Administration to perform analytical testing of Cannabis DNA. Such analyses are admissible in American courts of law and find application in drug enforcement, criminal investigation, prosecution and defense. One hundred milligrams per sample is sufficient for analysis. Cannabis held in evidence by state or federal law enforcement agencies is eligible for testing. We apply the exact method used in human DNA fingerprinting, using DEA-approved procedures for handling controlled substances. We provide independent, unbiased forensic analysis according to the highest standards of laboratory practice.

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http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/11/database_can_identify_marijuana_strains_through_dn.php

New Database Can Identify Marijuana Strains Through DNA
By Steve Elliott ~alapoet~ in Growing, News
Friday, November 25, 2011 at 2:20 pm

The simplify the process for cops (who, as we know, need for things to be as simple as possible), Coyle and her team developed a "collection card" Officers can rub a bud onto a card, then mail it to UNH's lab.
​A new marijuana DNA database can tell if a particular batch of cannabis is one of more than 25 types that have been genetically mapped by a forensic botanist in Connecticut.

DNA analysis has almost unlimited potential in helping patients and breeders -- once it's used for that purpose, instead of to bust us.

But before you get too pumped about this exciting new service, I should point out that word "forensic" in botanist Heather Coyle's job description. That's right, this DNA analysis is meant to benefit cops and federal agents, not cannabis patients or breeders.

Coyle, 46, says that her genetic analysis can let law enforcement trace the marijuana from a single bud or seed back to its source, as long as they can get ahold of matching samples, reports Gregory B. Hladky at CT.com.

The DNA analysis would permit agents to track where the marijuana originated when an arrest is made. It could also possibly form the basis of a federal case against foreign companies which sell cannabis seeds to American consumers; Toke of the Town unhappily predicts the first DNA-bolstered federal indictments of seed company personnel -- and the attempted extradition of suspects to face charges in the U.S., a la Marc Emery -- within 18 months.


Associate Professor Heather Miller Coyle: "If one person has a suitcase full of marijuana and another person has bags of it, we will be able to tell if it came from the same batch"
​They could learn, for example, if the weed was grown in Mexico and formed part of a south-of-the-border drug cartel's shipment. Or maybe it was part of a crop from California's Emerald Triangle that was sold at a San Francisco dispensary.

"The DNA mapping initiative will allow law enforcement personnel for the first time to track where marijuana came from and link to to criminal organizations such as drug trafficking organizations in Mexico, growers in Canada or gangs in the United States," says a press release from the University of New Haven.

"Such a databank and signature mark would be a welcome tool for police and law enforcement agencies," said Frank Limon, New Haven chief of police. "It's probable, in some cases, that conspirators of t he overall operation may escape investigation and prosecution. The link between production and distribution would aid us in establishing conspiracy cases against the whole operation -- not just the dealers and buyers. This would effectively connect the dots to street level narcotics distribution."

Coyle claims this system of genetic fingerprinting could also be used to offer states a foolproof way to control and regulate state-legal medical marijuana programs.

It's probably not a coincidence that Connecticut officials just so happen to be looking at that exact issue, as they consider passing a medical marijuana law.

Coyle, one of only four or five forensic botanists in the U.S., spent seven years working at the Connecticut state forensics lab before becoming an associate professor at the University of New Haven in 2005. Her job was helping to sold ceases by identifying and analyzing samples of plants taken from crime scenes.

Not surprisingly, NCIS is one of her favorite shows.

Tommy LaNier, National Marijuana Initiative: "It's very effective in getting numbers of people to plead guilty"

​Coyle began her marijuana DNA research in 2008 with a grant from the infamous White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP), which, like the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), will only fund anti-marijuana research. The money to keep the program going has also come in from the federal National Marijuana Initiative and the National High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Program, adding up to about $100,000 a year.

The marijuana database and DNA sequencing use essentially the same science used for human DNA testing. "Plant DNA is like the DNA found in humans," Coyle said. "It retains its lifelong genetic profile."

"If one person has a suitcase full of marijuana and another person has bags of it, we will be able to tell if it came from the same batch," Coyle said.

Coyle and her students have already analyzed cannabis seeds from federal agents who bought them over the Internet. Nearly all have come from commercial outfits in Amsterdam and Canada with names like "Sensi Seeds" and "Mr Nice Seeds."

there ya go, feds admit they sit on sites like these and buy seeds just like us

U.S. federal law forbids sending the seeds to American citizens, but the companies do it anyway, using "stealth packaging," according to Ashley Hertzman, a UNH senior who is working on the pot research program. Ten of the seeds can cost up to $75.

shit, I guess they havent seen some of the auctions, or rez seeds

​To simplify the process for cops (who, as we know, need for things to be as simple as possible), Coyle and her team developed a "collection card." Officers can take a sample leaf or bud from a pot bust, rub it onto a card, then mail it to UNH's lab. A small portion of the card is punched out, put through the DNA sequencer, matched against the database and the strain is identified.

"One major advantage of using collection cards is that it takes the marijuana sample from a usable drug form to a nonsmoking drug format, making research and storage at universities possible," Coyle said. (Of course, we couldn't trust any college personnel around smokable marijuana, now could we?)

The project is still in the research phase, according to Coyle, so they aren't yet handling evidence to be used in criminal cases. "We're getting in position to use it in court," she said.

"It's very effective in getting numbers of people to plead guilty," claimed Tommy LaNier, director of the anti-cannabis, White House-funded, National Marijuana & Public Lands Initiative, based in San Diego. "You've got hard evidence and they can't dispute it." One of Lanier's primary targets is weed grown on public property.

Coyle said a state could order licensed medical marijuana growers to use a specific type of marijuana plant (a chilling thought), and only that particular strain of pot could be sold in state-licensed dispensaries.

I've never heard a more certain way to ensure that, (1) state-licensed pot would be useless to a majority of patients; and (2) most patients would refuse to buy or use the state-approved marijuana, preferring instead to go through the black market to get the strains that actually work for them.

So, dna testing is a terrible thing to come along in the weed game. While it might be nice to know exaclty where OG came from(but why would you even want to know that? are you gonna try to make your own OG out of the same parents? complete waste of time) it is not worth getting wrapped up in national conspiracy charges.

Theoretically, if dude a gets busted in texas with the same OG bud you bought at a dispensary. And you got popped for some other shit and had the bud on you, they show they match and bam, you sold him the weed cuz you both have the same kind. Doesnt matter if they dont have any proof other than DNA, cuz we all watch CSI and know how big a deal DNA is right?

its bullshit and bad news for pot.

 

[Tom Hill]

Stop who? The gov? Listen, DNA testing exists, the labs are in place in secure/legal locations, they are up and running, like a monkeywrench, it's a wonderful insight in the right hands, and a weapon in others. Shall we ban moneywreches also? Will this stop your gov from beating the shit out of you with them? Hahaa, ummm, okay, put your hands down and step away from the Haze.

 

[YosemiteSam]

step away from the definitely not og kush



it will definitely turn on you from time to time...but that is just part of its charm...intense pepper smell, burn your nose/throat

I would love to know what is in every legendary strain...knowledge is always power

 

[DIDM]

White Fire OG is some fine cannabis




the OG family is getting watered down, but the tried and true ones still kick ass in a major way

 

[Veg N Out]

43 Day OG Kush...17 More...

43 Day OG Kush...17 More...

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

Stop who? The gov?

who said stop? oh yeah, not me.

Listen, DNA testing exists,

yeah, I managed to point that out myself. It has since 09 regarding mj.

the labs are in place in secure/legal locations,

You got some magical places the dea cant go?

they are up and running, like a monkeywrench, it's a wonderful insight in the right hands, and a weapon in others. Shall we ban moneywreches also?

[quote] Will this stop your gov from beating the shit out of you with them? Hahaa, ummm, okay, put your hands down and step away from the Haze.[/QUOTE]

you moved?

funny statement from someone pushing haze. you'd think you'd want to drum up some sales.

don't tell me what to do.

I was pointing out the facts about what is being done with pot dna testing for people who might not know. If facts reported in multiple media outlets and readily admitted to by LEO is somehow tinfoil hat territory, this is the first I heard of it.

later homie.

 

[Big City]

DNA testing of cannabis will be far more useful and beneficial to patients, growers, breeders, and dispensaries than it will be to any government.

We can't pick and choose who can use technology. The fact is, is that it is here now, and we might as well use it to our benefit. It's not like getting mad and posting aggressively is going to make it go away. That's just a bunch of misdirected energy.

We've got so many exciting things on the horizon to be excited about it, and this is one of them.

 

[guest8905]

wish this site didnt allow subliminal spamming.....

hopefully this dna testing, when available to the masses, isnt just for the big shots who can pay for it, but is for everybody who wants to use it.....medical patient, grower, dude, girl, granny, grandpa, and anyone else...

so the lower folks on the ladder arent left in the dark about their genes while the high horses get to know the truth...

 

[hydro-phonics]

i think we've drifted from the desired topic of discussion dudes - are OGs still the shit ?

i cast my vote yes along with the other reigning champions the REAL (NOT SATIVA DOM.) KUSHES inc. pre 98 bubba, LA con, kens GDP, tora bora, and the bomb-threat bubba.

the OGs i have are proj. delta, the grouch, 4 horsemen, Tahoe, and deadhead
each has something special to offer and im am still testing the Tahoe and deadhead cuts i have - so the results will be posted.
bottom line - OGs have some special attributes that other flavs dont necessarily offer
(taste, potency, in some cases yield ) and they rightfully have their place at the top of the west coast cannabis kingdom....

your thoughts/opinions ....