Why don't you like Ron Paul?

[megayields]

I dont like Ron Paul because;

1) He has a snowballs chance in HELL of ever getting voted in for president

2) Repeat the above sentence 1 Trillion times then slap your self for being so naive'.

 

[dagnabit]

Any source for
"he does not believe in seperation of church and state"?

 

[wantaknow]

i like ron paul because he supports the constitution and our right to be indipendant from goverment,he has a very larg following just look at the youtube clips ,i dislike all other puppets ,lets get this done people,vote paul,vote freedom

 

[nattynattygurrl]

I know my revisiting this may very well end up in this thread's death, but I simply must...

Originally posted by: Abner Doon
btw, has anyone ever heard of the concept of a 'womans reproductive responsibilities' or is the freedom to toss baby's into the garbage all that's important? ...saving a womans life should be the only acceptable reason for an abortion.

I think we should take you up on this and see how long you guys last…

From now on, we're only having sex for procreation, no more having sex because it "feels good"...what are we, a bunch of animals!?

 

[simdym]

first of all...

first of all...

friends .. before you state

"I Dont like him becuz he has no chance in hell of winning"..

We live in a democratic system. And even though its not a perfect democracy, or any way a democratic government perfect, IT IS FAR BETTER THAN MANY COUNTRIES.

your VOTE counts man.

to think of two that comes to my mind, North KOREA and Iran.

and uh les c.... how many countries in Africa?

hm... I think we are used to being in state of mind of gimme gimme gimme and not being appreciated of what we already have. but hey who am i to judge right.
sorry if it comes off as offending anyone but that is the mind state i am tryin to have everyday even though im a selfish prick most of the time... its hard.

Change is needed that's why i support Ron Paul.

If you look at the depreciation of dollar value due to government inflation since 1920s. You will see why this guy doesnt want to continually print out paper money.

And even though we dont like politicians and politics in general (i dont like em and subject as much as the next guy ),
as long as we are puffing WE ARE PART OF IT whether you like it or not.

You are federally dubbed criminal/junkie for expressing our freedom to grow/smoke a plant material that was prohibited less than 100 years ago.
(get locked up and you will see what i mean. they dont give a dam about u outside, why the hell would they give a dam about u when you are locked up inside. They dont give a dam about ur rights when ur locked up anywayz, those that went through the systems kno what im talkin bout. )


as of june/2012 most likely candidates for presidency is Obama/Romney/Paul.

Obama and Romney are very alike. and please dont quote me on this but I THINK Romney is probably not gonna beat Obama in 1 v 1 state. Paul, idk man until everything is set and stone I don't know what will happen.

 

[Hank Hemp]

I don't care for him because it ain't the 18th century anymore. He believes the fat man should dance and the working man pay the fiddler. But I may vote for him as a none of the above. NO, no in my state it won't matter. Here it's anybody but the colored boy(being polite).

 

[Guest304546]

I know my revisiting this may very well end up in this thread's death, but I simply must...




I think we should take you up on this and see how long you guys last…

From now on, we're only having sex for procreation, no more having sex because it "feels good"...what are we, a bunch of animals!?

no-one said anything about giving up the pleasures of sex, ...just indiscriminate, UNPROTECTED sex, ...or failing that a recognition of the rights of the unborn.

...a womans right to have sex shouldn't override her sense of responsiblilty toward the innocent life so undesirously growing within her.

...let's not forget that an unwanted pregnancy isn't the only possible consequence of unprotected sex.

AD

 

[SeaMaiden]

Backpedaling?

the 'body' that DIES is the baby's and no matter how you look at that, or how derisive and dismissive you may be, that IS murder of an innocent and defenseless life.

...why is it too much to ask that a woman either keep her lets closed or be willing to carry an unwanted baby to term? ...better the baby be adopted and have a life than to be murdered by some ingorant bitch too selfish to exercise good judgement.

...why are HER rights to fuck indiscriminately more important than the rights of any unborn child to have a life of it's own?


...and in the case of rape or incest, a form of rape, the BABY is still INNOCENT and does not deserve to die for the sins of his father.

with freedom comes responsibility. ...if you are FREE to spread your legs then you are MORALLY responsible for the life you create.

AD

No. YOU carry the God damned parasite to term. How insulting it is to be the female being lectured by the man, who only has to dip his wick and off he goes on his merry way.

How about HIS responsibility, eh?

We no longer need to populate the earth, it's well-populated already.

This is theocratic thinking, not conservative versus liberal. This is exactly the same kind of thinking that gets us laws like Proposition 8, where otherwise cognizant human beings can't grasp the concept of 'no wrongdoing = equal rights'.

How many children by others have YOU raised up? Because I've raised a few (unofficially, and therefore unpaid by the state OR parents) and advocate for abortion. Termination, you bet! Kill it while it's a zygote, before it has a chance to draw breath! Or, suffer the consequences of yet more unwanted children. I can assure you that by the time they're teenagers there is a good chance that they'll jump from foster care to prison care.

The last time I looked up some statistics, there were >65,000 children imprisoned in the Los Angeles County foster care system. That's ONE county in ONE state, one very populous state.

All you anti-abortion people don't seem to be lining up in droves to adopt these kids. What's up with that? Is their skin too swarthy for ya? Why can't more of you put your money where your mouths are?

KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE! Save it from the future suffering of being unwanted and unafforded.

 

[WelderDan]

Any source for
"he does not believe in seperation of church and state"?

Seriously? Is your Google busted? You're on a computer and you can't bother to look it up yourself?

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion."

Ron Paul

Full quote: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html

Guess what? God is mentioned exactly ZERO times in the Constitution. Ron has a copy of the Constitution on his website, funny he doesn't seem to know that.

check for yourself: http://constitutionus.com/

He's always been pretty up front about it

 

[todd internet]

Backpedaling?

No. YOU carry the God damned parasite to term. How insulting it is to be the female being lectured by the man, who only has to dip his wick and off he goes on his merry way.

How about HIS responsibility, eh?

We no longer need to populate the earth, it's well-populated already.

This is theocratic thinking, not conservative versus liberal. This is exactly the same kind of thinking that gets us laws like Proposition 8, where otherwise cognizant human beings can't grasp the concept of 'no wrongdoing = equal rights'.

How many children by others have YOU raised up? Because I've raised a few (unofficially, and therefore unpaid by the state OR parents) and advocate for abortion. Termination, you bet! Kill it while it's a zygote, before it has a chance to draw breath! Or, suffer the consequences of yet more unwanted children. I can assure you that by the time they're teenagers there is a good chance that they'll jump from foster care to prison care.

The last time I looked up some statistics, there were >65,000 children imprisoned in the Los Angeles County foster care system. That's ONE county in ONE state, one very populous state.

All you anti-abortion people don't seem to be lining up in droves to adopt these kids. What's up with that? Is their skin too swarthy for ya? Why can't more of you put your money where your mouths are?

KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE! Save it from the future suffering of being unwanted and unafforded.

well said. as a man, i have always wondered what makes some of us think we have any say i what a woman does with her body. i really dont understand it..is it a control thing? makes me sick and truth be told its embarrassing. its sad. again, well said, seamaiden

 

[avant gardener]

i don't like ron paul because...
because smash the fucking state.
that's why.

i am casting my ballot for private bradley manning because he is a goddamned hero.
then i'm going to start voting.

 

[DIDM]

Example


I don't give a fuck cause, no one who is basically a third party candidate will ever win

Sorry but he has 0 chance. His own party hates him



Best thing to do is get to a state that the Feds don't really fuck with


Alaska is gonna get lots of new citizens, as will Canada


Run for the border, look what our Change got us


what a joke

 

[Goyakla]

HONESTLY.. why the h.... do you discus such a NUTBAG....USA got ENOURNOUMS problems as it is...... all this shit about life etc etc etc.. let people decide for themselves.. and DONT BRING "GOD " or any god up EVERYTIME you talk....... its sickining for all others than those who cant GET we wasnt created by some GOD or another...

 

[Guest304546]

Backpedaling?

No. YOU carry the God damned parasite to term. How insulting it is to be the female being lectured by the man, who only has to dip his wick and off he goes on his merry way.

How about HIS responsibility, eh?

We no longer need to populate the earth, it's well-populated already.

This is theocratic thinking, not conservative versus liberal. This is exactly the same kind of thinking that gets us laws like Proposition 8, where otherwise cognizant human beings can't grasp the concept of 'no wrongdoing = equal rights'.

How many children by others have YOU raised up? Because I've raised a few (unofficially, and therefore unpaid by the state OR parents) and advocate for abortion. Termination, you bet! Kill it while it's a zygote, before it has a chance to draw breath! Or, suffer the consequences of yet more unwanted children. I can assure you that by the time they're teenagers there is a good chance that they'll jump from foster care to prison care.

The last time I looked up some statistics, there were >65,000 children imprisoned in the Los Angeles County foster care system. That's ONE county in ONE state, one very populous state.

All you anti-abortion people don't seem to be lining up in droves to adopt these kids. What's up with that? Is their skin too swarthy for ya? Why can't more of you put your money where your mouths are?

KILL IT WHILE IT'S A ZYGOTE! Save it from the future suffering of being unwanted and unafforded.

it appears you are so angry at men that you have missed the point.

...and you make assumptions that only serve to illuminate your bias.

if we assume, for the sake of argument, that ALL men are as irresponsible as you suggest, does that absolve YOU of YOUR responsibilities? ...i think not.

...and just so you know, i am a single father with 3 children that i have raised for the last 10 years on my own, and 2 of the 3 are girls, so i know a little something about uncomfortable and inconvenient responsibility.

...why is it so much to ask that while you exercise your right to wantonly fuck your brains out that you also remember to take precautions to prevent any unwanted pregnancy's or, failing that, that you take responsibility for your mistake and don't expect an innocent life to pay the ultimate price so you can continue your debauchery.

...your RIGHTS shouldn't supercede the rights of the life you so irresponsibily created.

...and if you think that that means that i don't hold men to the same standard then you are just a fool.

AD

...oh yeah, just so you know, fuck religion, this is decidedly NOT theocratic thinking, just plain old logic and a firm sense of right and wrong, ...something you should cultivate.

 

[Guest304546]

well said. as a man, i have always wondered what makes some of us think we have any say i what a woman does with her body. i really dont understand it..is it a control thing? makes me sick and truth be told its embarrassing. its sad. again, well said, seamaiden

lol, as a MAN you have a DUTY to take care in how and where you sow your seed dude.

...and if a life is created then THAT life becomes more important than either the mothers OR the fathers, ...and as CITIZENS we have a duty to protect that life because it can't protect itself.

...why is this so hard people? ...fuck yourselves silly but if a life is created then do the uncomfortable and inconvenient but RIGHT thing and choose an answer to the problem that YOU created that doesn't involve the murder of an innocent and defenseless life.

AD

 

[Abja Roots]

A single father with three children....maybe you should have made better choices in where you were sowing your seeds.

How about having some consideration for the overpopulation of the earth? It's a bit selfish of you to have three children, which is only going to lead to the further overpopulation of the earth. Makes it so people like myself don't even want to have one. Selfish and egocentric. In fact, why not donate one of your daughters to people who want to adopt children? It's your DUTY and the RIGHT thing to do.

Everyone listen to Abner Doon. He knows what you should do. In fact. Abner Doon for President. That's who I'm voting for!

I would actually argue that the humane thing to do is to abort the fertilized embryo, because this world is so messed up. Why would you want to bring a child into this world? I actually think they need to flip the script and start paying people to have vasectomies and get their tubes tied, instead of rewarding people for having children. We don't need anymore of them. There's enough idiots having them everyday.

As for Ron Paul. He's a putz just like the rest of them. This whole political system is made to keep us from coming together. It's built into the root of the word. So it doesn't matter whether you like him or not. None of these people are going to make it better. Just live this life the best you can, and take care of you and yours. He's not going to save us anymore than Obama is going to save us.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

A single father with three children....maybe you should have made better choices in where you were sowing your seeds.

How about having some consideration for the overpopulation of the earth? It's a bit selfish of you to have three children, which is only going to lead to the further overpopulation of the earth. Makes it so people like myself don't even want to have one. Selfish and egocentric. In fact, why not donate one of your daughters to people who want to adopt children? It's your DUTY and the RIGHT thing to do.

Everyone listen to Abner Doon. He knows what you should do. In fact. Abner Doon for President. That's who I'm voting for!

I would actually argue that the humane thing to do is to abort the fertilized embryo, because this world is so messed up. Why would you want to bring a child into this world? I actually think they need to flip the script and start paying people to have vasectomies and get their tubes tied, instead of rewarding people for having children. We don't need anymore of them. There's enough idiots having them everyday.

As for Ron Paul. He's a putz just like the rest of them. This whole political system is made to keep us from coming together. It's built into the root of the word. So it doesn't matter whether you like him or not. None of these people are going to make it better. Just live this life the best you can, and take care of you and yours. He's not going to save us anymore than Obama is going to save us.

i guess it's good YOUR mother didn't think of that or maybe it would have been YOUR innocent life going down the toilet.

...and btw, Dr Paul's son, Senator Rand Paul has endorsed Mitt Romney for President.

 

[ClosetAdvocate]

I like Dr. Paul because he subscribes to Austrian economics and believes that the government should stay out of our lives and our economy.

I don't like Obama because he's anti-capitalism (or at least he's pro chrony capitalism & socialism) and he's the status quo (growing the deficit and scope and involvement of the government in all of our personal lives).

I don't like Mitt Romney because he, at least, appears to be a flip-flopper that changes his political beliefs to gain the popular vote. He's conservative (I'm a fiscal conservative, but social liberal) and cannot comprehend simple issues like the legalization of hemp. He desires to grow the government and make only minimal cuts.

Neither of the two mainstream endorsed candidates have any real solutions. All they propose are driving toward the cliff at 60 miles an hour or 45 miles an hour.

Ron Paul is the only one suggesting slamming the brakes and turning the car around.

 

[slitherly]

President Obama isn't anticapitalism. But he does believe that they should be regulated to protect the American people. Mitt Romney hides his money overseas. President Obama has worked his entire life for the community, Mitt made money. Mitt makes 50,000 dollars every day. And he has come out saying he doesn't care about poor people.
As for Ron Paul, he has supported racism in the past, and would let big business pollute our environment as he wants no regulation.
Abortion is a very sensitive subject that I believe the Republicans use to devide us. On one hand is the rights of women to control their own bodies, on the other is the right of the unborn child. When the Republicans had control of the house, the senate, and the Presidency, they did absolutely nothing about abortion. It's too good an issue for them to actually do something about it.
Both sides have valid points. We are never going to resolve the issue where everybody will be happy, so why not a compromise that will make both sides unhappy, but both sides could live with. Legalize and make available to every female of sex bearing age birthcontrol and the morning after pill. Prohibit 3rd trimister (sorry, mispelled) abortions, and let's move on to other issues.

 

[Peacemonger]

Exactly

Exactly

President Obama isn't anticapitalism. But he does believe that they should be regulated to protect the American people. Mitt Romney hides his money overseas. President Obama has worked his entire life for the community, Mitt made money. Mitt makes 50,000 dollars every day. And he has come out saying he doesn't care about poor people.
As for Ron Paul, he has supported racism in the past, and would let big business pollute our environment as he wants no regulation.
Abortion is a very sensitive subject that I believe the Republicans use to devide us. On one hand is the rights of women to control their own bodies, on the other is the right of the unborn child. When the Republicans had control of the house, the senate, and the Presidency, they did absolutely nothing about abortion. It's too good an issue for them to actually do something about it.
Both sides have valid points. We are never going to resolve the issue where everybody will be happy, so why not a compromise that will make both sides unhappy, but both sides could live with. Legalize and make available to every female of sex bearing age birthcontrol and the morning after pill. Prohibit 3rd trimister (sorry, mispelled) abortions, and let's move on to other issues.

Could not have explained it better. And I woul add stop Radicals on the far right from there agenda to destroy rites and jobs the middle class has battled for .Like some respect after they have worked so hard there entire lives.Saw great piece by Bill moyer this weekend about how it's getting back to Macarthy-ism with these radicals stirring the "Commy" shit pot again last time it was the republicans themselves who put a stop to these far right wak jobs not so sure this time...