^^^^^ nice 2up...what are the dimensions of the beds? How many plants per? I also ditched the 200-300 gallon pots for beds...except the few we are running side by side as a comparison. Most are about 3 feet by 36-40ft...expecting big things from them. Looking forward to your pics, as i havnt heard of/seen anyone else doing these yet. Bless up.
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3' wide is pretty narrow. You'll do much much better if you open them up to 6' or even better 8' wide.
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You will FOR SURE do better than 200 gallon pot planting in a large trench or mound...Smart pots work for certain situation ..>But any time you can bring in more soil and plant in the ground, DO IT!! Don't be scared!
im on the search for a new garden next year where i can dig trenches and do 3 yards per plant...
but until then, with my rock solid clay ground and angled downward slope i gotta stick with 200s....
but i do see how mounds are better....200s look tiny compared to the huge mass of a 5 lb plant..
but until then, with my rock solid clay ground and angled downward slope i gotta stick with 200s....
but i do see how mounds are better....200s look tiny compared to the huge mass of a 5 lb plant..
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diff strokes for diff folks, and diff situations. Not everyone can do mounds as is so popular on icmag this year. Not everyone can do smarties, not everyone can do badass trench rows either.....
Heck we did mounds years ago, worked great. I knew a guy who would extend his mound out everyweek with new soil. You could dig back to the last weeks new stuff and it would be filled with fresh roots. He averaged 6 -7 elbows per plant. One key to mounds working imo is the fact the plants have lots of readily available oxygen, being that the top 18 inches or so is where O is utilized, it makes sense that if you have more Oxygen, youll have more roots and more and bigger roots = bigger plants and buds.
I will say though that imo smarties can yield tons when grown proper, they let air prune roots, and they do somewhat force the plants to finish faster (ie rootbound, except i wouldnt call it that b/c roots in a smart pot dont look like roots in a plastic or wood or clay pot that fit the traditional definition of 'rootbound'.) Heck some 200 gallon smarties can get 7 pounds for sure depending on certain factors. Smarties also allow for more oxygen to enter the root zone than lets say a in ground hole imo. Those holes are only getting oxygen into their top level and down 18 inches, while a smartie will get it from the top and all around the sides as well.
Whichever way you go, smartie, mound, pot, in ground.....im sure youll do great and good luck and much respect, Stay safe and keep it green and organic.
Heck we did mounds years ago, worked great. I knew a guy who would extend his mound out everyweek with new soil. You could dig back to the last weeks new stuff and it would be filled with fresh roots. He averaged 6 -7 elbows per plant. One key to mounds working imo is the fact the plants have lots of readily available oxygen, being that the top 18 inches or so is where O is utilized, it makes sense that if you have more Oxygen, youll have more roots and more and bigger roots = bigger plants and buds.
I will say though that imo smarties can yield tons when grown proper, they let air prune roots, and they do somewhat force the plants to finish faster (ie rootbound, except i wouldnt call it that b/c roots in a smart pot dont look like roots in a plastic or wood or clay pot that fit the traditional definition of 'rootbound'.) Heck some 200 gallon smarties can get 7 pounds for sure depending on certain factors. Smarties also allow for more oxygen to enter the root zone than lets say a in ground hole imo. Those holes are only getting oxygen into their top level and down 18 inches, while a smartie will get it from the top and all around the sides as well.
Whichever way you go, smartie, mound, pot, in ground.....im sure youll do great and good luck and much respect, Stay safe and keep it green and organic.
Hi, I just want to thank everyone for contributing to this great thread. Ive never seen anything like it
.I just spent the last couple weeks reading this thread from the start along with a few others and Ive learned more here than reading 10 books on growing.
A little about me. I live in a very populated part of Southern CA and have been growing susccesfully for 7 years outside now (knock on wood!). I wish I had more spacing but Im making the most out of what I have, my garden is about 16x30 with 12 plants.My plants arent exactly the monsters Ive been seeing here, but hopefully I can post here and join the thread.I will be including pics and more details soon.
.I just spent the last couple weeks reading this thread from the start along with a few others and Ive learned more here than reading 10 books on growing.A little about me. I live in a very populated part of Southern CA and have been growing susccesfully for 7 years outside now (knock on wood!). I wish I had more spacing but Im making the most out of what I have, my garden is about 16x30 with 12 plants.My plants arent exactly the monsters Ive been seeing here, but hopefully I can post here and join the thread.I will be including pics and more details soon.
GoldCountryGuy
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We are using the microbulator, from www.microbeorganics.com.
It's doing an excellent job. (only 50 gallons)
It's doing an excellent job. (only 50 gallons)
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kickin ass GCG
I'd be glad to post some microscopic videos of the tea made from the microbulator at 6 hour intervals if anyone is interested. I've posted some videos using other (bad) brewers in this thread: Foothill Fetish
The microbulator is pretty dang cool, after setting it up I was impressed it could accomplish as much as it does with only one, rather small, air pump. It is able to create an airlift which escalates the water to the top breaking the surface tension for gas exchange as well as additional aeration through a diffuser all while pumping over 6 gallons a minute through the lift. I was real impressed with the design. It also comes with a mesh bag and alternate diffuser if you were going to use compost with larger particles.
It seems to me like I've seen a lot of people when they're thinking about making teas put an imbalance of focus on the recipe and overlook the brewing system. I made some simple, kind of stupid
(but hey, that's how you learn), brewers before we got that microbulator and I'm sure once I take some videos with my microscope the importance of a good brewer will be proven through comparison.Oh yeah, and... I've read through this thread twice in the past couple months since I'm kinda new to all of this... what a great thread, really educated me and set me on a good course of research. Thanks to everyone who has contributed here.
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2 days of freeze in tha forecast....
So happy I've stopped chasing my tail trying to pull an early start out of somewhere that it just isn't possible...Healthiest most robust starts every for this year....Putting in starting the 8th....
So happy I've stopped chasing my tail trying to pull an early start out of somewhere that it just isn't possible...Healthiest most robust starts every for this year....Putting in starting the 8th....
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not supposed to dip below 40 here next two nights, daytime temps high 60 low 70s and nights around 41. All the stuff has been out in some below 42 cold nights already and is trucckkkkiinnn right alllooonnngggg.
So far a pretty epic spring
good on ya for tha heads up though, i did see it was supposed to be patchy frost up north a bit
oh and to those who checked out the insect frass i hope you like it, i also recommend Actinovate, diff beast entirely but works well and very easy to use, an organic bio-fungicide http://www.naturalindustries.com/retail/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=3
So far a pretty epic spring
good on ya for tha heads up though, i did see it was supposed to be patchy frost up north a bit
oh and to those who checked out the insect frass i hope you like it, i also recommend Actinovate, diff beast entirely but works well and very easy to use, an organic bio-fungicide http://www.naturalindustries.com/retail/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13&Itemid=3
same here i was about to put a few outside...gonna wait until this weekend as well. its pretty fuckin chilly!
morganic grower
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Yep fellas right on track for plugging this this weekend as well, ya VEG I worked hard on my starts as well 400 down to 170 in 4 inch pots now plugging best 20. Should be very uniform and impressive.Luther Burbank kept the best and rejected all others. Much respect
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I planted the 3rd, they couldnt wait any longer plus I do the whole moon thing....seem to be responding well despite the cold nights and gale force winds.
Ive had all my shit plugged in now for 2 weeks. roots are fillin them 200s real nice. cant wait till the oven turns on! next year im veggin all my shit in 45s cuz the 2 45s that got transplanted into the 200s are out of control already. ill take pics tomo for everyone! cheers from Maine.
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