If you could go to any country to acquire breeding genes from landrace...

[moses wellfleet]

i know a cat who was working on a oil rig in ghana he said the herb supplied there was killer...

and another one who went to nampula in mozambique and raved about what he smoked there... i am planning to visit both these locations as i am already quite close to one.

 

[bombadil.360]

wow some horrible advice given here...

thye best advice given has been Nepal.

stay the fuck out of Mexico looking for seeds, specially if you do not know the 'lingo' ese!

you'll prolly end up in trouble without looking.

same goes for Colombia; even though Colombia is way more safer and friendly nowdays than Mexico, specially big cities like Bogota, which is my favorite city of south america hands down, friendliest people, good food and plenty of smoke of all qualities and prices; not sure you'll find 'landraces' there though... to find landraces in Colombia like Corinto you'd need to have some pretty knowledgeable connects.

Nepal seems like the best safest bet, even though nowdays finding the true 'landraces' is no easy job, it is all about networking, if you do not have it, you're indeed better off in staten island.

peace and good luck!

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

I would be in Mexico now if it were all reasonable, but they lost more people in one city there than we lost in Afghanistan and Iraq. I hope peace returns, but I don't expect it anytime soon with our government using theirs as a puppet to fight their own people in our senseless war effort.

I was very tempted to go to Bagota, Colombia especially since the FARC situation seems to be improving and have kept it on the table.

Right now I have a trip to Malawi, Transkei, and Lesotho planned out, but I will plan several and can only take a trip once every few years. I would think 14-30 days would be sufficient for an African safari and the cost is pretty much getting there and then transportation + guide which to Americans is dirt cheap even if you are poor in my opinion.

I am studying Peru and Nepal now. I friggin LOVED the Peruvian people and culture. A best friend of mine years back married a girl whose family was from Peru and many of the flew over for the wedding and we had a blast for days.

I figured we could do a mock safari in this thread before I actually go and post up cool hiking gear etc. we know of that would be useful. Perhaps it will inspire several others to do the same thing. I think a lot of people don't do this for fun because they think it is harder and more dangerous than it really is.

I will be back later to post up some really neat stuff gear and travel wise

 

[Builtaforest]

definitely gotta keep local/natives in mind, you will still be an "outsider". always nice to speak their language, have a buddy of same nationality, etc. you need some sort of hook/in with the people and like Ojo said, gotta talk "game"

social and cultural differences and stigmas are the greatest hurdles to the true landraces (if it should exist locally). beyond that, your simply much more likely to get the run-around than any true substance.

If I travel to a certain areas in Asia, I would be able to source not only landraces (if they existed) but also poppies just by casually asking because I am of the same nationality. One step into the wrong asian country, and I'm a "lower class" all of a sudden. Simply culture in that area and different nationalities.

The trip of my dreams to find more Meao varieties, not through Thais but through the Meao themselves.

 

[Builtaforest]

Imagine trying to find the cleanest, unadulterated connect in Houston for coke without being of Latin descent. Smiles, high fives, and hugs only get you so far

 

[Storm Shadow]

I want to go to Iran and explore the whole country for genetics... My family tells me there is mad growing going along the Iran/Pakistan border... Also heard there is some interesting hash coming of the Kish Island in the Perian Gulf... There is still so much dank in Iran that hasnt been brought into the Western Hemisphere

 

[yesum]

Afghanistan for the indicas and sativas too for that matter.

 

[Classic Seeds]

india or ceylon for all the different strains they have the islands in the indian oceon should have some treasure in genetics too aloha good idea for a trip ha ha aloha cls

 

[joe fresh]

i would go south america....it is far too over looked by alot off ppl including breeders, they seem to prefer over in the middle east and the orient.....but in the 70's alot of the imported strains that were famous then were from south america

 

[freaks]

If u want real landrace or cultivar forgot the South America (most of genpool is diluate with commercial ducth hybride...) and it takes a long time to find the real deal!

So, Africa is one of good place, like Congo,Angola,Kenya,Centrafrica ...
In fact... all part of mama Africa it's good for strains hunting

S.E Asia is great.... not thailand (thx DEA for drugwar ) but Laos,Camboge,Viet-nam have a very good matérial for breeder.....Indonesia, Malaysia and Pillipine interrested me lot....

i've forgot to ask... u want Indica, Sativa or hybrid ?? the answer determines the place


Hope that help,
Bless'

 

[Goyakla]

uzbekistan, tadjkistan... that would be my choice for indys... grown Shirin Gol from Tadjikistan... best hash plant i ever seen... and what a stooooone maaaaan.....!!!

 

[Vampire]

Swaziland where-ever that is, for Swazi Reds.

 

[serious6]

nepal, the himilaya's. alaskan blue thunder from the mantakasta valley where the tundas still grow wild. spelling is wrong; i lost these genetics when raided. BT = blueberry x thunderfuck

south american sativas are nice, home to the white widow and inca spirit. africans like the bambata and durban

the hunt for original cherrybomb, delat and old god hawaiian

the list goes on...........................

swaziland is african my friend

 

[trichrider]

iran

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

Swaziland where-ever that is, for Swazi Reds.

That one is definitely on the radar and will happen I love my little African Safari I have planned and I have been browsing many travel blogs to gauge relative safety etc. and I am really liking it.

 

[huligun]

I can speak for Colombia personally as that is where I was born. My family grew buds my whole life.

Just like North America, Europe and Jamaica, everyone wants a fast finishing strain. I have not been everywhere, but I do know that European hybrids are dominating the world that I have seen. I have people that can get me the wild, spindly, hermi prone strains of the 70s, but they are not being produced commercially anymore. Almost everything that is grown and eaten in the world now is a hybrid. Wild old strains are too unpredictable and full or other problems for anyone trying to produce anything worthwhile on a consistent level. You can get lucky if you find the right wild strain, but your chances are better with a hybrid.

Not to mention that trying to score something illegal in a strange country is a very bad idea. If you do not have friends or connections in these places you are a sitting duck.

Sorry to be a buzz kill.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

So, when taking into consideration that most places one would go to forage land race genetics is most likely suffering from destitute poverty, it would be a wise idea to pack light, cheap, and not flashy. Everyone's first instinct most likely would be trying to buy the best and up to date equipment like this beautiful 500$ hiking pack that is completely water proof to the point it can even be used for safety floating device:

Back Packs

The Arc'teryx Arrakis 65 backpack is a multi-sport crossover intended for multi-day skiing, hiking and climbing trips—and it's completely waterproof!

Made with revolutionary 420Advanced Composite Textile VaporTight™ nylon material to keep contents dry
Top-loading main compartment features a dual-stage rolltop closure system for easy packing and weatherproofing; rolltop closure compresses or extends for additional volume
Full-length side zipper and all other zippers feature WaterTight™ waterproof construction to prevent water penetration
Additionally, all seams are sealed for weather-tight protection
Hydration-compatible design features reservoir sleeve with an exit port for drinking tube (reservoir sold separately)
Radially formed shoulder straps with an adjustable suspension offer a personalized fit
Hipbelt suspension features a Load Transfer Disc™ for superior range of motion and easy disconnect from pack
Simply grab hipbelt at center, twist in counter-clockwise direction and belt releases from center disc; reverse actions to connect
Large side-access kangaroo pocket? and zippered top pocket are great for stashing oft-used items
All molded components and suspension system are laminated and bonded for superior strength
MonoFrame™ backpanel is thin and light with EVA foam and 2 aluminum stays to create a direct link between back, suspension and bag
An Axio™ ice-tool holder securely stores an ice axe with a clever, glove-friendly, rip-and-stick? fastener
Lash Ladder system on the side and front, with removable straps, accommodates skis/boards, ropes or camping gear

Please note: Arc'teryx products can only be shipped to U.S. addresses.

Imported.

Item 780142

Loads of features that could give a hiker an adrenaline rush just by reading Hell it even qualifies as carry on luggage (something else to keep in mind).


However, I think it would be wiser to not roll up like a rich foreigner in any impoverished nation. I tend to be in favor of this back pack which is much more cost effective. Look how small it is when bagged up, you could carry two-four extra's no problem...


http://www.nemoequipment.com/nemo2011-dittobackpack

http://www.nemoequipment.com/nemo2011-dittobackpack

> 6.8 oz (0.2 kg)
> 12" x 9" x 24" (LxWxH)
> 6" x 4" diameter packed size
> Each bag is unique
> Repurposed from recycled tents
The Ditto™ Backpack is made from donations of manufacturing seconds from key manufacturing partners. The Ditto™ Backpack steps it up with more advanced features like a roll-top closure, an internal mesh pocket, and an integrated stuff sack that allows the bag to pack down small for easy portability when you don't need it. Colors and materials may vary.

Tent


For a tent although this is pricey it only weighs 1.7 lbs!!!!!!!!!!! For hiking that is priceless and it sets up in seconds. Single person and extremely easy to store in a pack or duffel bag. I could not find a lighter better quality tent. Perhaps there is one, but here is the best I found.

http://www.nemoequipment.com/nemo2011-gogoelite

> 1 lb, 7 oz (0.6 kg)
> 19 sq ft (1.8 sq m)
> 5 sq ft (0.4 sq m) Vestibule
> OSMO® Elite Waterproof/Breathable

Featuring OSMO™ Elite, one of the lightest waterproof/breathable tent fabrics on the market, Gogo™ Elite’s paltry packed volume and lightning fast setup make it a truly unique tool for tackling remote ascents and endless traverses. Features include the ExoFly™ front canopy, which creates the option of a roomy interior with mesh for summer breezes or a vestibulefor stormy weather, and Swallowtail patterning at the foot end, which allows you to tension the bivy above the sleeping bag to maximize interior ventilation. Includes a watertight stuff sack, Ultralight Integrated Pump, stakes, and repair kit.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

I can speak for Colombia personally as that is where I was born. My family grew buds my whole life.

Just like North America, Europe and Jamaica, everyone wants a fast finishing strain. I have not been everywhere, but I do know that European hybrids are dominating the world that I have seen. I have people that can get me the wild, spindly, hermi prone strains of the 70s, but they are not being produced commercially anymore. Almost everything that is grown and eaten in the world now is a hybrid. Wild old strains are too unpredictable and full or other problems for anyone trying to produce anything worthwhile on a consistent level. You can get lucky if you find the right wild strain, but your chances are better with a hybrid.

Not to mention that trying to score something illegal in a strange country is a very bad idea. If you do not have friends or connections in these places you are a sitting duck.

Sorry to be a buzz kill.

No buzz kill this should be a topic thoroughly discussed. There is reality and there is a pair of rose colored glasses as large as the country you are visiting, heh.This is risky no matter how you slice it and always has been so you can sit on the couch be an armchair quarterback or you can do it your self like many others have been for 30+ years. I think the best thing to do would be to visit first and make friendships/connections and go from there.

If I did this and had no connections where I was going to I would visit in the city/region you know you should start out in for 20-30 days make friends with guides, fisherman, and the like and go from their. Plan the trip AS A VACATION so if you come up empty handed who cares go back...The plane tickets are the main cos,t but I consider most places you travel for this sort of thing are incredibly cheap to live and get around in. Expect about 1-2 grand for a round trip plane ticket to Africa or Asia. The more civilized the more you should be worried in my opinion about incarceration and the less civilized the more likely you will be victim of the population itself and end up in a ditch somewhere. However, less civilized you are far more likely to find a guide and be successful in your efforts...

I've read quite a few stories of people traveling with 0 connections and simply befriending their guide...I don't think this is at all a difficulty, plenty of travel blogs out there

A helpful tour guide tip I read from someone who traveled Africa extensively solo:

The best guides won't be hitting you up when the mob of people are trying to sell you a guided tour, trinket, food, etc. They will wait and meet you at your hotel/cabin/hut etc. when all has subsided. It is important to know the most likely spoken language of guides where you are traveling to. I was surprised many knew English, but some French especially in Madagascar and areas generally colonized by the French in the colonial era. Most people suggest getting to know guides before taking them up on their offers. You often CAN get the run around especially if you are going to ask to do something like we would be. If you feel comfortable go on a short excursion and if you decide you trust and like the guide mention your true intentions on the second excursion away from the city or village.

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If anyone has any other tips feel free to post I am sure their a lot of well traveled people here who know a lot and contribute which is the purpose of the thread.

 

[40AmpstoFreedom]

uzbekistan, tadjkistan... that would be my choice for indys... grown Shirin Gol from Tadjikistan... best hash plant i ever seen... and what a stooooone maaaaan.....!!!

These sound fun to research So far Africa, Sri Lanka/Indian isles, and the above sound quite interesting to me. It is neat to hear where everyone is interested hopefully this thread will turn out to be a good source for some people to plan some vacations.

 

[Iron_Lion]

Go to Pakistan and get some of that Kush that was growing a long side Ben Ladin's hide out. I can just see it now, Ben Ladin Kush lol

I bet Iran is sitting on some sweet herbs, untainted by westerners at that. You know they aren't smoking Dutch in Iran. That's the shit jesus was smoking.