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13lbs 6x600's, lucky me!

smurfin'herb

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EDIT: Scale gave false reading. Title should be "10lbs 3oz, 6x600's"

Close trim job, buds snap instead of bend ect.. No c02, no hydro, no vert! I knew this would come after all the hard work and years of experimenting with this one certain strain. I always got 1.75 per 600watt with her but now shes super dialed and im ready!!!! I never ran this strain under more than 2 lights, but as soon as i put it under 6x600's they liked it!! My buddy pulls 1.5lbs per 600 with her in a 48 site hydroton ebb and grow system from clone with 2 lights. Each clone comes out looking like a 2 liter!! It looks like Soquicks old runs, no lie! I will tell ya what i used but no application rates and dates just yet...

R/O water, Bcuzz coco (pure), modified at times 6/9 gh formula, cal-mag plus, blood bud, big bud, overdrive, hygrozyme, proteckt, great white, liquid karma, sweet, humics, fulvics, seaweed and one or two other secret indredients applied at different phases. This is a decent amount of products and im sure i could cut out 25% of them and still get same yield, but quality may go down.

Daystar a/c 6" hoods with no lenses running off the old 600watt 240volt only lumatek ballasts. 4 plants per light, each plant in a 5 gallon smart pot.

Automated low pressure drip system. Pretty much 2 basket drippers per plant. 1000gph fountain pump to run the drippers. Each plant gets about a medium shot of water 2-3 times per day depending on stage and size of plant. I like to water multiple times per day so i just calculate how much each plant drinks per day and split that amount into how many times i want to water. I experiment every run with different feeding frequencies such as how often and how long each feed cycle is. The way i time the drip system is to simply monitor the plants over a few days and see how much water they drink at different stages of growth. My goal is to keep the coco on the drier side at all times. To the point where you can grab a handful of it, squeeze, and little to no water will come out. Ive noticed that by keeping it at this consistency has allowed my plants to thrive! BUT... Watering just enough for the plants to drink also means you are not getting any runoff. Unfortunately when i use this method, i do have to occasionally flush due to salt build-up, but no more than once or twice max before the final flush. I use low feed (<600 ppm base nute) and high amount of waterings. Drip clean will not help you here because theres no runoff, but it will keep your lines from clogging! I used to water until runoff and never had to flush, but flushing is a small sacrifice for the yields i have improved on.
Plants like dry,wet,dry,wet,dry wet, as well as frequent waterings. Not to dry tho or they will stretch!!!! This makes them exhibit hydroponic growth and keeps ph ranges in check. When trying to water just enough for plants needs multiple times per day in coco or anything similar you must taylor your watering frequency, feed strength, pot size and coco/media mix corresponding to strain specific needs, plant sizes and stages/phases of growth. Watering frequency and feed strength also correspond to each other When watering this way. You must also monocrop or run strains with similar requirements. If you mess up in any of these areas, you can end up having not enough or too much water in your media, even if there is no runoff it can still be saturated!! I believe that watering schedule was the last factor in dialing in my strain and this is how i solved it.

Next time im thinking about ammending with 10-15% perlite and even more frequent waterings, because there was still a lot of area left in the media for roots to grow this previous run. So why not fill in those gaps with perlite and up the h20 exchange. Im just worried that if i up the waterings, i will get more nute buildup and need to flush more often which will then lead me to apply even less fertilizer which i think may be too little food for the plants. I feel i have already hit the sweet spot, but i never give up. We will see what happens. Just thought id share... To be honest i think i took one picture of the grow the whole time! At least it was close to finish time. Ill see if i can get it on here.
 
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Iron_Lion

Got any pics of this legendary grow?

Must be quite the strain.
 

smurfin'herb

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Well we lucked out, my buddy managed to get a few pictures in, theres a few for ya instead of just 2 lousy pics...

This is the beginning. Its a 12 light room soon to be divided. The far far right back corner also has a 4x8 out of view.


The next few are during the chop, hacking our way back through the jungle one plant at a time...


This pic just shows you what 8 plants and 2 600's can do.


And now for some fun. I love laying down on my back and looking up at an upside down pre harvested plant hanging from the ceiling. Theres a couple pics in here i took while laying down... This is one plant frm a 5gal smartpot..
 

Hundred Gram Oz

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Nice job man, I'm also intrigued to know which strain your running? Also what is your ventilation and air circulation like?

Respect
HGO
 

smurfin'herb

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Ventilation is just an intake and an outtake. I use cold winter air to cool the room via fanspeed controller. I have my outtake carbon filtered and ducted into my exisiting havc system for my house. This allows me to heat my house in the winter for free for the most part. If im paying a 600 dollar electric bill, then im sure as hell not gonna pay a 200 dollar gas bill at the same time. Go green, heat your house with your bulbs/room. I have a thread on this method that i still need to update. Check out my recent thread "using winter air to your advantage" for more info.

Ok as for the strain. It is a native strain to my area called Lemon G-13. It is the "new school" variety which is supposedly a pheno of Reefs love potion#2. But there are controversial statements that it is a different lineage. Some say its more of a lemon skunk style rather than LP#2 (airborne g-13 x santa marta colombian gold) x Santa marta columbian gold. Im still trying to get to the bottom of this.
Its a 70 day flowering strain and it can be super finicky at times. She eats more food and water so fast than i have ever seen a plant eat in my life. It can be fully green, and then i flush it, and literally 3-4 days later it is completely yellow!! She sucks up water and food like a beast. I have pulled close to 40 grams of nug from a single clone before and thats when i knew i had some dialing in to do. Its considered average to pull at least an ounce per clone with this cut. Like i said, my buddy does 48 ebbngrow buckets from clone under 2x600's and yields about 25-32 grams per plant and its just a single 2 liter. This strain likes to stretch a decent amount so there is a secret to making a clone stay short and form the 2liter buds. Its not paclobuzatrol or anything of the sort!
 
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Ok as for the strain. It is a native strain to my area called Lemon G-13. It is the "new school" variety which is supposedly a pheno of Reefs love potion#2. But there are controversial statements that it is a different lineage. Some say its more of a lemon skunk style rather than LP#2 (airborne g-13 x santa marta colombian gold) x Santa marta columbian gold. Im still trying to get to the bottom of this.
Its a 70 day flowering strain and it can be super finicky at times. She eats more food and water so fast than i have ever seen a plant eat in my life. It can be fully green, and then i flush it, and literally 3-4 days later it is completely yellow!! She sucks up water and food like a beast. I have pulled close to 40 grams of nug from a single clone before and thats when i knew i had some dialing in to do. Its considered average to pull at least an ounce per clone with this cut. Like i said, my buddy does 48 ebbngrow buckets from clone under 2x600's and yields about 25-32 grams per plant and its just a single 2 liter. This strain likes to stretch a decent amount so there is a secret to making a clone stay short and form the 2liter buds. Its not paclobuzatrol or anything of the sort!

You aren't lyin about her yellowin up. I can't seem to run that girl and keep her green. Gonna try adding some extra feather meal on the bottom of my pot next time I run her. I've also heard that she is really Love Potion. Makes sense, she looks very similar to many of the LP pics I've seen online. I could definitely see getting huge yields if you ran only Lemon G, as she gets some MONSTER tops. Kinda on the lighter side potency wise (great daytime herb IMO) and also not the prettiest, but she has the strongest lemon flavor I've ever experienced in herb. I like to let mine go 11 weeks, although it's hard to do when she yellows the way she does.

Hope you don't mind if I post a pic of mine up here. Congrats on the harvest btw, those numbers are unreal bro.

Lemon G
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smurfin'herb

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@Organicfanatic-Well my god, Theres not many here, but thats the best pic of a lemon g plant on this whole site. Your right about everything. Super duper lemon candy taste! Daytime herb for sure. 11 weeks til chop.
About the yellowing... Everyone i know runs into this problem when running lemons. This may sound a little strange, but try boosting the nitrogen levels (sea kelp) just a little bit in flower when she starts to yellow on ya. Some bloom formulas are a little too low on the nitrogen for her needs. This plant eats like a freaking beast once it starts packing on weight. During flush its truly amazing to watch a plant turn almost all yellow in just a few days, while the other strains are barely getting purple and maybe have one yellow leaf. The only downside to this strain is that it can be very sensitive in early flower and will "stunt out" on you if you feed too much leaving you with no huge colas. I have to be careful when i dose the bud blood. But like i said, when she starts packing weight, dont be afraid to feed her. She will let you know when shes hungry, TRUST ME!

Awesome pic bro, and great looking plant. Thats def the lemons! I was hesitant to make this thread because i just figured people wouldnt believe me because its really unheard of to yield that much with my kind of setup. I almost didnt believe it! Im glad theres someone else here who can testify as to how much of a beast this strain is.

Was that plant maintained organically?
 
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@Organicfanatic-Well my god, Theres not many here, but thats the best pic of a lemon g plant on this whole site. Your right about everything. Super duper lemon candy taste! Daytime herb for sure. 11 weeks til chop.
About the yellowing... Everyone i know runs into this problem when running lemons. This may sound a little strange, but try boosting the nitrogen levels (sea kelp) just a little bit in flower when she starts to yellow on ya. Some bloom formulas are a little too low on the nitrogen for her needs. This plant eats like a freaking beast once it starts packing on weight. During flush its truly amazing to watch a plant turn almost all yellow in just a few days, while the other strains are barely getting purple and maybe have one yellow leaf. The only downside to this strain is that it can be very sensitive in early flower and will "stunt out" on you if you feed too much leaving you with no huge colas. I have to be careful when i dose the bud blood. But like i said, when she starts packing weight, dont be afraid to feed her. She will let you know when shes hungry, TRUST ME!

Awesome pic bro, and great looking plant. Thats def the lemons! I was hesitant to make this thread because i just figured people wouldnt believe me because its really unheard of to yield that much with my kind of setup. I almost didnt believe it! Im glad theres someone else here who can testify as to how much of a beast this strain is.

Was that plant maintained organically?
Thanks for the kind words bro! Yeah I grew her 100% organically in a homemade soil mix with organic spikes. I actually think she yellowed because of a lockout due to me adding too much available P through teas and top dressings. I have run one since then with no top dressing and only a few mild teas minus the guano and she stayed green till the end, which was only 8 weeks or so because of some PM issues I was having. Had to clear the whole garden out to get rid of it. I'd take the borg any day over PM....
 

smurfin'herb

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Great yield for organics, you should see her in hydro! Im lucky i have never had to battle any serious cases of PM, but the borg is another story. Mite free for over a year now.
 
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organic_fanatic

Any good legit lemon-G crosses out there available as seed?

THSeeds crossed it into their Electric Lemon G..... but I'm pretty sure the cut they used is the cut I've always known as G13, also VERY lemony, but a stout indica. I just got into a discussion on another site about the Lemon G and here is my conclusion about it.

I think that the Lemon G that Smurf and I are runnin is really Love Potion (G13 x Santa Marta Colombian Gold). I know a few older heads that know their shit who run the exact same cut, but say for sure that it is Love Potion. They also have the G13 cut I mentioned above, but they call it Lemon G.

I've really been calling that shit in the pic I posted Love Potion for a while now, but could tell it was the same cut that Smurf ran.

Any opinions on this??
 
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