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[rives]

Another thing that I like about the Lumibar is the passive cooling - no noisy fans! It would be interesting to talk to Lumigrow and see what they say about a vertical application - it seems like the heat sink might be less effective if oriented in that direction.

I've ordered up parts to build a long, narrow fixture. The initial one will be 4" x 22" to take advantage of some left-over parts that I have around and prove the concept. If it works as hoped, it will be expanded out to 4" x 48"-60". Noctua fans will be used to keep the racket down and insure good cooling in any orientation. I'm trying to come up with something that would be easy for people to DIY, keep the costs down to a somewhat reasonable level, and be packaged in an enclosure that looks reasonably professional.

 

[GP73LPC]

Another thing that I like about the Lumibar is the passive cooling - no noisy fans! It would be interesting to talk to Lumigrow and see what they say about a vertical application - it seems like the heat sink might be less effective if oriented in that direction.

I've ordered up parts to build a long, narrow fixture. The initial one will be 4" x 22" to take advantage of some left-over parts that I have around and prove the concept. If it works as hoped, it will be expanded out to 4" x 48"-60". Noctua fans will be used to keep the racket down and insure good cooling in any orientation. I'm trying to come up with something that would be easy for people to DIY, keep the costs down to a somewhat reasonable level, and be packaged in an enclosure that looks reasonably professional.

sounds very interesting... please keep us updated

 

[GP73LPC]

ok, some new additions...

RETAILER MODEL WATTS PRICE WARRANTY
PHILIPS GREENPOWER 36 165 3
ONVILED SNAKE 42W 42 236 2
KESSIL H150 36 220 2
KESSIL H150W 36 220 2
KESSIL H350 90 360 2
HTG SUPPLY ARGOMAX 432W 432 500 1
HTG SUPPLY ARGOMAX 864W 864 900 1
HTG SUPPLY AGROMAX PRO SERIES 150W 150 395 1
HTG SUPPLY AGROMAX PRO SERIES 210W 210 550 1
HTG SUPPLY AGROMAX PRO SERIES 280W 280 720 1
HTG SUPPLY AGROMAX PRO SERIES 370W 370 900 1


plus i removed the old HGL stuff since it's no long available... i will hang onto the data but will no long list them.

also, while i was updating the charts i realized that although i keep several other spreadsheets (one which is alphabetical), i thought it might be helpful to everyone, since the list has become so long, to post an alphabetical image(s)...

so look for all of this ^^^ on page 1...


also, i must re-emphasize i believe you get what you pay for. so if you go off and pic the cheapest or the cheapest per watt, etc... that is probably what you will get. these charts are only meant to be helpful and not endorse nor disqualify any particular brand..

 

[oneshot]

welcome to icmag

Thanks but I have been here a long time Just went 'into the shadows' for awhile lol

edit: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=232665 started the grow thread

 

[Don Dump]

thought I'd show how my pg 180 is doing, the plants seem to like it, despite my fert and ph issues. I'm not going to flower under it until next winter probably, but I can say it definitely veg pretty good, Im very happy with it. many thanks to GP73LPC for making this thread

 

[GP73LPC]

no problem Don... glad the LED is working out for you...

out of curiosity why are you not flowering with it til winter?

 

[Don Dump]

right now I just want to veg out a few things and take clones, get ready for my outdoor. then in the summer I am busy and not home as much. in the winter it is a fun hobby

 

[Highlighter]

Right on, Don Dump! I just got a Pro Gro 260 today, their top-seller.




It's hefty, well-built. Fans are a bit loud, nothing like the Vortex a few ft away tho.
Short 6' cord. You can get them longer as a custom order.
They sent me both cords @ my request, but the 240 is the euro type. Still, no additional cost, cool.
They advertise it as consuming 180W in full on mode, here's what I got w/ the Kill A Watt:


Here we are w/ just the red band

and here we are w/ the blues



Happy to be able to add to this great thread!

Great work keeping up on it, GP73LPC!

 

[Highlighter]

Here's what my other two LED's do.

Kessil 350 magenta reads:


Here's what my old Lighthouse 90w UFO reads:

 

[GP73LPC]

Thanks Highlighter

would you mind posting all the kill-a-watt info in my LED Mythbusting thread?

link is in my sig...

 

[bombadil.360]

k+ for all the led info man

what's the word on the evo led lights?

I like it they have no fans, silent.

thanks again

peace!

 

[Vampire]

Very informative; I love my UFO from sunshine-systems, also got two 250w veggin lites from them that serve my plants well.

 

[Megas]

Are there any real LED lights under $300 worth buying?

 

[rives]

Are there any real LED lights under $300 worth buying?

Take a look at the charts on the first page - the Evo models are in that range, and Mr. X has done very well with them. The Onviled Snake looks pretty interesting, too. They seem to be meant for use in multiples, but that would get you started.

 

[Megas]

Take a look at the charts on the first page - the Evo models are in that range, and Mr. X has done very well with them. The Onviled Snake looks pretty interesting, too. They seem to be meant for use in multiples, but that would get you started.

Can you even buy the EVOs in US or Canada? Their website I need a translator.

 

[oneshot]

Are there any real LED lights under $300 worth buying?

My Blackstar seems to be doing well. I have a grow journal going if you want to see how it does. Won't really know until the plants are older but it's working and growing plants

If I was going to redo it, I would get a Lumigrow ES165 or 330 or a HGL lamp (the X2's are coming out in 3 weeks).

You really do have to pay to play

 

[Megas]

My Blackstar seems to be doing well. I have a grow journal going if you want to see how it does. Won't really know until the plants are older but it's working and growing plants

If I was going to redo it, I would get a Lumigrow ES165 or 330 or a HGL lamp (the X2's are coming out in 3 weeks).

You really do have to pay to play

Wow those Lumigrow's are expensive, essentially things are looking like I might be stuck where I am for a while. So I might try to get away with a Ikea wardrobe grow. I'm paranoid about running a HPS in a confined space so I figure a LED setup that could grow 2-3 plants well would be great. I would use it for Vegging out plants when a room is available.

How does the Blackstar 240 do vs. the pro grow 180?

Also I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around these things. I go site to site and people say they are X watts but really use X watts of power? So when you are saying you have a 400w LED Light setup does that just mean it is putting out a comparable amount of light to a 400w hps? But it might only use 250 watts of power? I'm getting all sorts of confused here from reading too much.

 

[bombadil.360]

maybe one could get a very good performance out of the evos using other supplemental lighting; in my head the best would be t5s. introducing hids to the mix would defeat the point of low consumption low heat.

I'm thinking two evo led 90 v3 plus bloom t5s for flowering.

for vegging just plain good t5s, 70% blues and 30% reds.

did a quick calculation in my head and would need about 2k dollars to get all the lights up and running though, kinda pricey. but very low heat, more silent and less consumption, many pros and just one con, price.

 

[oneshot]

How does the Blackstar 240 do vs. the pro grow 180?

Also I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around these things. I go site to site and people say they are X watts but really use X watts of power? So when you are saying you have a 400w LED Light setup does that just mean it is putting out a comparable amount of light to a 400w hps? But it might only use 250 watts of power? I'm getting all sorts of confused here from reading too much.

You would have to look at the charts to see wattage comparing those 2 lights. I believe they are pulling around the same wattage. The design are very similar though. People have gotten good results from them.

The way retailers market LED lights is # of LED's x their watt (3 usually) = wattage.
The Blackstar 240 has 80 3W LED = 240W. Whenever you read a 'compared to a 600hps' or similar, just ignore that marketing bullshit

Look at the graphs on the first post, choose your budget and then work within that. Blackstar / ProGrow are good lamps. Any of the major LED's are good lamps. Avoid eBay like the plague though. The more expensive ones just use crazy top of the line LED's, heat sinks, build qualities etc.. They are more dialed in but for a small tent/closet grow any of the more hobby style lamps will do. You can't go wrong with either really.

Save money on the light and get a proper fan/carbon scrubber IMO. Security is WAY more important

 

[setaemies]

http://ledgrow.eu/

This guy is starting to sell his panels. 33 LEDs per panel, don't know if all of them are Cree XP-E, up to 45 watts, somewhat adjustable? 240USD including powersupply. Someone should mail him and ask the bins he's using Just wondering how they are cooled, didn't see any heatsinks or fans?