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Feds Say "Fake Names Are Grounds For Warrant-less Wiretapping"
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flag away. my game is tight and i got my rec. and i stay below fed levels. i only turn phones on 3 times a day to check messages then turn off. cant triangulate me. and their dumb phones. everyone i deal with is also a documented medical user
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Doesn't really look like they will be using it against people like us...but you never know with these guys, I suppose.
Can You Hear Me Now?
Can You Hear Me Now?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/12/can_you_hear_me/
Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off. A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug."
Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery. "The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone’s location to within just a few feet," he added.
According to the recent court ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, "The device functioned whether the phone was powered on or off, intercepting conversations within its range wherever it happened to be." The court ruling denied motions by 10 defendants to suppress the conversations obtained by "roving bugs" on the phones of John Ardito, a high-ranking member of the family, and Peter Peluso, an attorney and close associate of Ardito, who later cooperated with the government.
The "roving bugs" were approved by a judge after the more conventional bugs planted at specified locations were discovered by members of the crime family, who then started to conduct their business dealings in several additional locations, including more restaurants, cars, a doctor’s office and public streets. "The courts have given law enforcement a blank check for surveillance," Richard Rehbock, attorney for defendant John Ardito, told ABC News.
Judge Kaplan’s ruling said otherwise. "While a mobile device makes interception easier and less costly to accomplish than a stationary one, this does not mean that it implicated new or different privacy concerns." He continued, "It simply dispenses with the need for repeated installations and surreptitious entries into buildings. It does not invade zones of privacy that the government could not reach by more conventional means."
But Rehbock disagrees. "Big Brother is upon us…1984 happened a long time ago," he said, referring to the George Orwell futuristic novel "1984," which described a society whose members were closely watched by those in power and was published in 1949. The FBI maintains the methods used in its investigation of the Genovese family are within the law.
"The FBI does not discuss sensitive surveillance techniques other than to emphasize that any electronic surveillance is done pursuant to a court order and ongoing judicial scrutiny," Agent Jim Margolin told ABC News.
Can You Hear Me Now?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/12/can_you_hear_me/
Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off. A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug."
Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery. "The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone’s location to within just a few feet," he added.
According to the recent court ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, "The device functioned whether the phone was powered on or off, intercepting conversations within its range wherever it happened to be." The court ruling denied motions by 10 defendants to suppress the conversations obtained by "roving bugs" on the phones of John Ardito, a high-ranking member of the family, and Peter Peluso, an attorney and close associate of Ardito, who later cooperated with the government.
The "roving bugs" were approved by a judge after the more conventional bugs planted at specified locations were discovered by members of the crime family, who then started to conduct their business dealings in several additional locations, including more restaurants, cars, a doctor’s office and public streets. "The courts have given law enforcement a blank check for surveillance," Richard Rehbock, attorney for defendant John Ardito, told ABC News.
Judge Kaplan’s ruling said otherwise. "While a mobile device makes interception easier and less costly to accomplish than a stationary one, this does not mean that it implicated new or different privacy concerns." He continued, "It simply dispenses with the need for repeated installations and surreptitious entries into buildings. It does not invade zones of privacy that the government could not reach by more conventional means."
But Rehbock disagrees. "Big Brother is upon us…1984 happened a long time ago," he said, referring to the George Orwell futuristic novel "1984," which described a society whose members were closely watched by those in power and was published in 1949. The FBI maintains the methods used in its investigation of the Genovese family are within the law.
"The FBI does not discuss sensitive surveillance techniques other than to emphasize that any electronic surveillance is done pursuant to a court order and ongoing judicial scrutiny," Agent Jim Margolin told ABC News.
Fake names and street names are considered one in the same... They basically said they can tap anyone with a street name... that mean anyone could say that anyone goes by anything and the cops can say yup he goes by a fake name...
this literally gives them the ability to tap anyone anytime... stop arguing over semantics when its ALL a bunch of hogwash bullshit
this literally gives them the ability to tap anyone anytime... stop arguing over semantics when its ALL a bunch of hogwash bullshit
Yay to the future.... if they can do it in america they will do it everywhere.... we are just the prototype for world domination...so sad to see....
to take it one step farther when i went to go look at new smart phones - best buy's geek squad had a "black tie" program you can sign your phone up on so that if its ever stolen they can GPS your phone's location and if someone steals it and is trying to use it - they can activate the phone and take a picture of the theif so they can know who stole your phone (or at least have a picture of them)...
pretty scary times we are living in now...
SpayceRayce
Member
Does this mean that everyone that uses a name other than the name they were born with, or that appears on their drivers licence, is going to be subject to or vulnerable to the warrantless wire tapping? Hmmm. So, while it is not a crime in the U.S.A. to go by a name other than your legal one, you are suspect. So, most legit film and stage actors do not use their real names, nearly 100% of the WWE wrestlers do not use their real names, porno actors/actresses don't, Nuns don't, psychics don't, just to name a shitload. Are all these folks going to come under the scrutiny of Big Brother? Wow, that fucking loser is going to be busy. Probably going to need extra funding and employees just to handle all those "suspects".
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IE2KS_KUSH
FUCK the God damn fucking bastardized criminal federal government FUCK DEM fuck their fucking FAKE LAWS the law don't fucking matter anymore watch your fucking asses don't matter if you grow weed or are a complete square if they want you they will get you. RESISTANCE IS THE ONLY OPTION and lots of people are gonna die both good and bad. Get right with yourself an get the fuck ready and be ready to kill and die. It's too late to stop it.
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IE2KS_KUSH
How would they even know lol what a joke
It's not like they need to know to wiretap you, they are probably already doing that.
This just covers their ass in court. "We were tapping his phone because he used a fake name"
Ya know, ptb someone on the way down to Belize told me before B.O. was elected that not to get excited about him. This person
said that Barack O. would not do much of anything once elected.
He said from his experience, no modern president would radically change anything, to avoid the "KENNEDY TREATMENT". I really was angry when he first told me this. I didnt believe him until I
witnessed all the opportunities that have been wasted. This
cant be an accident.
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uote=PoopyTeaBags;4951144]If you guys havnt figured it out were fucked... Legal illegal the feds dont give a shit. they are gonna say one thing and find away around it at the exact same time...
we got to remember this is not the america we grew up in... This is the soviet union... we are fucked and are in the times right before the republic falls.. shits gonna get a lot worse... pretty soon americans will willfully give up the constitution and bill or rights (not like we have them anymore but it still something) and then we will truly be fucked... tricked into slavery for the greater good of the rich people....
apple said it best.. The way the world is heading is for corporations like foxxconn. Mandatory 12 hours days 6 days a week for 17$ a day. sleeping 6 people to a DORMITORY and getting called to work at any time for any reason... The people there are SLAVES and thats what they want to do to the rest of the world...
Foxxconn has a unbelievably HIGH suicide rate guys... but dont worry cause they got that solved....
They installed nets around the buildings to catch the people trying to commit suicide..... PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
WAKE THE FUCK UP.......
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said that Barack O. would not do much of anything once elected.
He said from his experience, no modern president would radically change anything, to avoid the "KENNEDY TREATMENT". I really was angry when he first told me this. I didnt believe him until I
witnessed all the opportunities that have been wasted. This
cant be an accident.
q
uote=PoopyTeaBags;4951144]If you guys havnt figured it out were fucked... Legal illegal the feds dont give a shit. they are gonna say one thing and find away around it at the exact same time...
we got to remember this is not the america we grew up in... This is the soviet union... we are fucked and are in the times right before the republic falls.. shits gonna get a lot worse... pretty soon americans will willfully give up the constitution and bill or rights (not like we have them anymore but it still something) and then we will truly be fucked... tricked into slavery for the greater good of the rich people....
apple said it best.. The way the world is heading is for corporations like foxxconn. Mandatory 12 hours days 6 days a week for 17$ a day. sleeping 6 people to a DORMITORY and getting called to work at any time for any reason... The people there are SLAVES and thats what they want to do to the rest of the world...
Foxxconn has a unbelievably HIGH suicide rate guys... but dont worry cause they got that solved....
They installed nets around the buildings to catch the people trying to commit suicide..... PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
WAKE THE FUCK UP.......
<end rant>[/quote]
The feds can tap..... my nuts 
^^^hah got them on VIDEO!
last of the freakin mohicans.
last of the freakin mohicans.
WillWork4Weed
Member
F this! I'm moving to a third world nation and living in a dung hut.... let's see 'em tap that!
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IE2KS_KUSH
I've tapped the dung hut a time er two..
