Is OGK still the most sought after cut(s) on the boards? ?

[kinger]

what can ou guys tell me about king louie 13th og kush and respect og kush?

 

[S4vvy]

when the respect cut first hit the scene it was Chemdog (i think #4). Dunno what passes as as the Respectt Og clone nowdays

 

[kinger]

I just hope it is some killer OG,Thats all im after

 

[stasis]

I was growing the OG Kush as we called it, which was the Chemdog. The Cut was 22 years old plus or minus when I first got it. That was 6+ years ago.. The SF Clubs and NorCal people loved it. It was amazing, the perfect high. And what I see now as Platinum OG Kush seems to be the same cut. The grower was the one who paid the price, when all the watered down versions happened. It is a low yielder, so one had to make it up on the donations..

A few years into the project, we came across a clone called "Pure Kush." I grew it next to the Chemdog (OG KUSH) and I swear, both in the greenhouse and inddors they were identical.

I think someone has the cut still up here. I suppose if I am growing the Plat OG, I may as well try to locate a cut of that Pure Kush..

Who knows the name game...? It goes on and on. As in the Girl Sc*ut Cookies Cut now..

Keep it civil. OG Kush always brings on passionate posts..

 

[MrDank]

There's no way the puss kush/LA pure kush is the same one as in the cannabible. That stuff is watered down bubba imvho.

I agree that the smell and flavor on the Pure Kush are definitely weaker than the Bubba, but I always liked the potency of the Pure Kush more than the Bubba

 

[astartes]

There's a few different pure kushes that I'm familiar with. Perhaps this is the reason for the confusion...




First --- Suge-nite's Pure Kush - I've never had the pleasure of trying this one, so I'm going off canna lore. It's supposed to be a a stronger version of bubba in the potency and taste department. Few have ran this cut from what I can garner.

Second --- Pure Kush - a viney OGK-like cut that was sourced from an LA warehouse grower and tastes peppery/earthy/minty a bit. Has very angular branches like the ghost cut of OGK. Heard it called both PK and LA PK. Krunchbubble ran this cut in his vertical rooms for those interested in pictures of the gal.

Third --- LA Pure Kush - Looks a lot like bubba and may very well be an S1. Not as strong as bubba with a more candy-like taste than the traditional chocolate/coffee/hash overtones of bubba.

Hope that helps the conversation a bit...

a.

 

[Guest3498]

Can't forget the "hollywood pure kush". Remember that one? Frosty as all get out and had a fruit loops kush smell.

Of all the pure kush's I've had the one you speak of krunch running is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

Just going by what BOG claims. From everything I hear sour bubble is very bubba like.

from what ive learned sour bubble was bubble gum with pre98 bubba.... i thought that for years... then i got to talking with some people and the guy that gave bog the tray of clones told me it was actually Bomb threat which is a closely held S1 of the pre 98.

so from all my detectiveness i have finally concluded its a s1 of pre98 x bubblegum(bogs bubblegum)

 

[S4vvy]

from what ive learned sour bubble was bubble gum with pre98 bubba.... i thought that for years... then i got to talking with some people and the guy that gave bog the tray of clones told me it was actually Bomb threat which is a closely held S1 of the pre 98.

so from all my detectiveness i have finally concluded its a s1 of pre98 x bubblegum(bogs bubblegum)

Bomb Threat is not in Sour Bubble. Sourbubble was around long before bomb threat and to the best of my knowledge bomb threat has yet to be used in ANY breeding program. Although the clone is around in small circles up north so maybe they are playing with it now... I doubt it tho...

 

[Veg N Out]

I think that PoopyTeaBags got it a bit twisted...The Bomb Threat Kush, and the Sour Bubble are related. They started with the same Bubba Kush clone...But then were taken in diffferent directions by different people in different times.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

Bomb Threat is not in Sour Bubble. Sourbubble was around long before bomb threat and to the best of my knowledge bomb threat has yet to be used in ANY breeding program. Although the clone is around in small circles up north so maybe they are playing with it now... I doubt it tho...

I can assure you that what i said is the truth from what ive been told... now if the guy telling me the story was wrong that may be... however i highly doubt that as well. The guy is big and knows what the hell hes talking about... Hes the one claiming he gave bog the tray of clones in which he picked the female from..

He knows more about the root of most strains then damn near anyone i have met.

 

[Zen Master]

when the respect cut first hit the scene it was Chemdog (i think #4). Dunno what passes as as the Respectt Og clone nowdays

dunno where or when you got the Respect OG but I picked some up from a coop in Cali and it was absolutely not Chem4 as I grew the chem4 from the same source and both were as advertised.

The respect OG is DANK. OG lemon fuel fire.

If you're getting it from a co op in norcal (I think I know which one, PM me if you want) its legit.

 

[SmokeTrees]

i thought the respect cut was another name for a larry cut, but was different than the larry cut so they called it respect?

 

[Zen Master]

honestly I'm not too sure on its lineage but I know that where its available right now in nor cal is a reliable source as I've ran it myself. stuff was dank OG for sure. made for some great hybrids that I made too.

 

[S4vvy]

When the respect cut was released and grown online it wasn't 'og'. It as one of the chems. Maybe a mismatch.. but that's what it was when it was first being grown by other members. Jiggywhompus was one of em, and some other guys at tcc

I can assure you that what i said is the truth from what ive been told... now if the guy telling me the story was wrong that may be... however i highly doubt that as well. The guy is big and knows what the hell hes talking about... Hes the one claiming he gave bog the tray of clones in which he picked the female from..

He knows more about the root of most strains then damn near anyone i have met.

I have no doubt that you have been told some misinformation because the info you have simply is not true. The facts are pretty simple. Sour Bubble was around before the Bomb Threat seed run even happened. So it can not be apart of the SB breeding program. This 'Big' guy you're talking about may know a lot of things but on this subject he does not know what he's talking about

 

[Veg N Out]

Sorry PoopyTeaBags but BOG did not hand pick cuts out of a tray, he was simply gifted the Bubba Kush from the same source that the crew up north got it from! The Bomb Threat was grown out from seed in 08 or 09...from 20... maybe 30 seeds I would have to find out. The Sour Bubble was out long before that time!

 

[big twinn]

There's no way the puss kush/LA pure kush is the same one as in the cannabible. That stuff is watered down bubba imvho.

Nailed it right on the head Vado! I agree, I have had most recently both Pre-98 Bubba and a Bag of LA Pure side by side, and they are hard to distinguish. My personal thoughts, slightly more Kushy taste on the LA, vs the bubba kush mocha flavor, but never the less i reached for the Pre-98 every time. The LA Pure just didn't have anything exciting as far as the high in comparison. I like the "Body glove" the pre-98 provides in comparison.

Now here is a question, What are the differences between LA Pure Kush and just Pure Kush (ie: 818 PK, SFV OG). I know the phenotypic differences based on owning the SFV and having smoked the pure...so that isn't my question...but why are they both called Pure Kush, when in my opinion i found ZERO relation between the LA Pure and the SFV (818 Pure Kush)...The LA Pure def. waters down my first impressions of anything "Pure kush" I hear, but my SFV (PK) is far from watered down....right up there with the best, for sure!

 

[Ickis]

This is that Pure Kush. Kush as in....Short, chunky, sticky, frosty hash plant like indica plant. I don't understand how OG's are even called kush. This is the CannaBible PURE KUSH.





Way more potent than either pre 98 Bubba or Bubba Katsu cut. It doesn't get purple all the time. I had cold night temps this round.

I think Bubba Kush Katsu cut might be the tastiest weed though.

The most I ever said about where this cut came from was "it came from a well known breeder from someone who got it directly from them".

I ask him if he knew which one. I did mention the mutual friend I got it from. He said "it only came labeled Pure Kush, be thankful you have such a good plant".

 

[420247]

The most I ever said about where this cut came from was "it came from a well known breeder from someone who got it directly from them". Do to recent developments I will tell the breeder. This Pure Kush came from Chimera.

I ask him if he knew which one. I did mention the mutual friend I got it from. He said "it only came labeled Pure Kush, be thankful you have such a good plant".

I guessed his new secret project and he deleted my post and has posted a made up an accusation that I ask him for information on another grower. I ask him information on this Pure Kush. I already knew about the other guy.

There was no sense defending myself in Chimera's forum because he would just delete my posts. It does tie in with this thread because it does give validity to the specialness of this Pure Kush plant I have already mentioned in this thread.

Chimera calls me a shyster in his post. Completely false and completely fabricated. I see him for what he is now. A liar. I would think even though he made up the pm he should still be reprimanded for posting pms.

I never sold a seed or a clone. I have always believed the weed should be shared freely. I have never gone against my "free the weed" policy. I have never cheated or stolen from anyone.

All you have to do is talk to Chimera a little bit and you'll notice he has no idea about the Cali clone scene... Not alot of people have a clue... Its very very hard to keep up with... Names fall out of closets all the time...

This post tells me sooooo much!

Hey Morphote,

While I agree with what you are saying, I think you missed my point.. and upon reading my 'joking' poke at OG - perhaps I wasn't clear.

As you know I was just in California, and visited with many different groups, dispensaries and chemical analytical labs. Among the dozens and dozens of growers I met with, about 15 of them had "The original OG". Some of them clearly didn't have AN OG plant, but were just passed clones from something labelled as OG by a dispensary who had no idea what they were selling (I can show you pics of a 23 foot tall sativa structured skunk lineage (IME) growing over the roof of a barn, with weeks to go until harvest and this was October 28th... true OG's (whatever that is) should have been almost done, if not completely done by that point. My point is that to say nobody slaps the OG tag on on something average is just plain incorrect, my friend. OG gets slapped on anything that is to be sold, to someone that doesn't know the difference. I saw it happen with clones, I saw it happen with bud. Trust me, it happens.

Even of the ones who had "the original OG" as each group proudly claimed, they all had a different plant. How is that possible?

Originally, OG must have been a single plant..... a clone selected by someone from a grow out, which eventually became popular via pop-culture, music, rap what have you.... and once it entered pop culture others tried to capitalize on the name... be it to sell bud, clones, seeds etc etc. What 'was' OG - changed- as others tried to capitalize on the name.

I laughed with many growers (and admittedly, at, some growers) about their OG's and the originals.... how could it be "the original OG" when clearly not all of the growers even had the same genetic clone! One grower tried to explain to me that OG wasn't a clone, but a smell that was found in "all of the OG's". I teasingly took it further, to suggest that to him it may be a smell, but that was only HIS impression of 'what OG was', and it didn't necessarily match up with what others thought... with what 'The Market' thinks.

Jorge and I had this conversation over and over again as we visited different growers, dispensaries etc etc..... and finally- it came to me; that OG Kush is no longer a single plant (an individual), or even a family (since all 'the original's are clearly not all related), or even a smell profile. OG Kush is a philosophy, a way of life, a state of mind or even a state of being. It's a religion. It's grown past what was once a single plant, to a collection of unrelated hybrids, that don't necessarily even share the same/similar terpene profile.

What I'm saying is, I know what you believe is OG... and you may even have 'the original' cut, but the reality is that the rest of the market doesn't necessarily agree with you... as others have copies of 'the original', that smell different, grow different, ARE different. With different buyers, who can't agree on what OG is... there is no standardization. So you know what OG is. Does the market? I think since nobody can agree on what "It" is, that shows the conundrum.

Obviously this is all a bit tongue in cheek.... no offense intended to the OG, or anyone in particular.... but I do find the whole thing a but funny. But it openned my mind to a serious problem in our community, and that is how do we standardize genetics? How do we know that clone X (name X) , IS, clone X?

So Morphote will you donate your OG to the OG Kush DNA project? I'm going to let the DNA tell the story.... because we all got our cuts from someone, who was proud to pass us the cutting with a history (storied Pot is always better, remember G13?)... and that history might not be as accurate as they portrayed. There's always incentive for unscrupulous money hungry folks, that are rife in this biz, to tell a little grey lie to help their sales.

Bottom line, people lie, DNA does not.... so I want to let DNA have her voice in this whole debate. What do you think?

Don't get me wrong.. I like OG, it's really good pot. Is it the best? My answer is that there is no best, never will be. There is no holy grail, to which everything else can be measured against. To me there is just a top class of cannabis... say the top 5%... and from within that 5% you can have a preference, but none is better than the other... once you enter the class of the true elite, you can prefer one more than the other, but that doesn't mean you are correct - because someone else may like a different plant more. Who is to say what is right?

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter. I'd also like to get your OG DNA in the test ring, if you would be willing to participate.

Respectfully,
-Chimera

If you have it, you sure as shit know it! hahahaha

Not one mention of the San Fernando Valley? Tahoe? Maybe Orange County? Hmmmmm Nor Cal is the OG info spot? That is where Tom Hill is... But OG was a So Cal thing... Or was it Florida?

Talk is cheap... But knowing what your talking about when talking OG is very rare...

This is the 818 OG Kush

Its called 818 because thats the area code for the San Fernando Valley

BTW what the fuck is "original OG"? hahahahaha

 

[420247]

Originally posted by wick650:

-Tahoe= cut brough into the community by Swerve. The grower that Swerve got it from had sourced the cut in the Lake Tahoe area in the 90's.

-Larry= The Orange County Larry cut that is availble in the medical scene came from the same Orange County crew that the H.A O.G Kush came from

-SFV= There are a million O.G cuts grown in the S.F.V, however the cut that goes by this name on these forums and in medical disp. came from forum member Swerve

-Ghost= This cut came from ORGNKID, ORGNKID had sold a O.G cut to a Overgrow forum member named "Ghost" who further distributed the cut.

-Tripple OG= This cut came from ORGNKID. This cut is A.K.A Triple X/XXX O.G Kush. Triple O.G was popularly sold to medical patients by the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.

-Abusive= This cut was brought into the community by an overgrow member named "Abusive", believe it or not Abusive claimed to have got the cut through the rapper Snoop Dogg.

-SAC#2= Cut brought into the scene by forum member O.Gkushman, O.Gkushman got the cut from DJ Muggs.

-P.R OG A.K.A Private Reserve O.G= Another O.G cut that ORGNKID brought into the scene. The cut was sold to Med patients as Private Reserve O.G through the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.

-Apothecary = O.G cut brought into the scene by the apothecary seed co's Brett. Brett got it from a high profile Medical MJ activist in L.A back in 1999

-Diablo= This cut came from the R.D.C disp. In the San Fernando Valley

-R*a*s*k*a*l's OG= Another cut sourced in the San Fernando Valley. Cut was bought for several thousand dollers from ******* ***** members by friends of forum member O*G*r*a*s*k*a*l

-HA OG= Cut came from an commercial H.A room in Orange County, grown by the same crew that brought the Orange County Larry cut into the medical Disp.

-Poison OG=Cut came from O.Gkushman, he grew it from seed found in a pound of O.G back in ‘96

-SAC#1 & #3= #1 came from G-Thumb in the San Fernando Valley, #3 came from San Fernando Valley but is very popular in Santa Barbara and sometimes goes by the name “Purple O.G Kush”, the cut was brought into the scene by the owner of the now defunct Hortipharm in Santa Barbara

Some info that has been around a long time

Some like him, some dont, but wick knows his shit when it comes to OG Kush