Super Silver Cheesedog in Coco Beds - Recirculating Top Feed - 2K on 6 Plants

[Han Grolo]

What goes up...

What goes up...

Thanks for the kind words autojuice and Dr. Dank!

Week 5 of blooming and support is already being added to the extra large colas on what used to be one of the runts. I had to pull the dirt OG plant. It was overgrown by the hydro ss cheesedog monster and wasn't putting off any nugs.

Been keeping the ppms at 950-1200 and using mostly ACT for add backs. The ladies seem to be loving it and are filling out nicely.
I changed the res from veg to bloom nutrients 5 weeks ago when they were flipped. Tomorrow I will give them a fresh batch of bloom nutrients.. it will be the first full res change in five weeks!

 

[NorcalBob]

Looking great Han, it getting funky in there?

 

[gaiusmarius]

sweet grow man. little bit too much veg this time round, but the yield looks to be on the way to greatness. nice long colas in the making.

i totally learned the lesson of doing things in a measured way in the grow too, lol. banged head on reflectors too many times, but it seems to be happening less and less haha.

 

[MacGyver420]

wow haven't checked out this thread in a while and shit got ridiculous!~! you should trim that freakin jungle down some man! good stuff looks like your trays worked out quite well for you

 

[indianajones]

watching intently!

 

[Han Grolo]

Oh shit its the Mod.. everybody act cool!
Thanks for sticking your head in gaius, keep an eye out for those reflectors

NorcalBob- Hey Bud.. good to see you, I poked in few minutes before the lights and exhaust fans kicked on and wham... hit a wall of stank. The air in there is thick man! The (old) mom Im smoking has a nice citrus smell and flavor and it makes your tongue tingle after you hit it. The high is a strong one.. needs that 10th week to really set it off.. I seem to come down off it real clean too.. not a lot of dragging stupor.

MacGyver- you called it.. just after my last post I went in and started cleaning up big. Trimmed them again like I do two weeks into bloom.. cleaned up all the under leaf and want-to-be nug. Pulled out around 15 gallons of material.

Was too busy last week to post so Ive got pics from week 6 and now week 7 coming to this one.

Plants are flopping hard.. the soil mom took 10 weeks to finish, Im hoping these coco plants develop a little more rapidly. It will be a long coulple weeks keeping em propped.

Failed to mention added superthrive and silica to the feeding regimen starting at week 5.

Been keeping the PPMS at ~1200 and am still seeing yellowing.. These ladies are hogs! Looking at three weeks left of bloom its now time to start ramping it down instead of up.

Heres a couple pics from 6 weeks into bloom:

token corner shot:

Check out the trunk on that one:

And here are pics to bring us current at 7 weeks of bloom.. my how the time flies. Can't wait to see the final bud shots, these gals are monsters:

 

[eman resu]

my, what a firm looking trunk you've got there, and such big colas too

 

[NorcalBob]

Towering Timbers Batman! The first shot, the one with the lights off, its awesome~

 

[Slimm]

Looking good in here. Curious about the addition of SuperThrive and silica at this point. I pull back on silica in flower figuring silica is going to make the buds smoke harsher I always wonder if I shouldn't just continue with it right to the end but the plants seem pretty tough by mid flower and even spider mites can't eek out a living in my garden. I always attributed the resilience of my plants to the silica. Always thought of SuperThrive as more of a root stimulator. Definately curious about how you use these things.

 

[eman resu]

Looking good in here. Curious about the addition of SuperThrive and silica at this point. I pull back on silica in flower figuring silica is going to make the buds smoke harsher I always wonder if I shouldn't just continue with it right to the end but the plants seem pretty tough by mid flower and even spider mites can't eek out a living in my garden. I always attributed the resilience of my plants to the silica. Always thought of SuperThrive as more of a root stimulator. Definately curious about how you use these things.

silica will actually make the buds burn more completely; you may notice they char more completely to a clean white ash indicating there is little remaining but carbon. Don't be afraid to use it in flower imo.

 

[Han Grolo]

my, what a firm looking trunk you've got there, and such big colas too

Aw shucks eman, your making me feel like little green riding hood.

Looking good in here. Curious about the addition of SuperThrive and silica at this point. I pull back on silica in flower figuring silica is going to make the buds smoke harsher I always wonder if I shouldn't just continue with it right to the end but the plants seem pretty tough by mid flower and even spider mites can't eek out a living in my garden. I always attributed the resilience of my plants to the silica. Always thought of SuperThrive as more of a root stimulator. Definately curious about how you use these things.

Hi Slimm thanks for checking out my grow. This is the first time for me using either of these products so I am probably not the best one to give out advice on the subject, thanks for jumping in eman. I planned on adding them earlier but never got around to picking them up. Superthrive as I understand it is a mix of vitamins and hormones to aid in nutrient uptake. Ive been adding a small bit to my ACT. Claming to benefit many different types of plants it almost comes off looking like a snake oil..I would love to see a ganja side by side with it.. Since this is my first time running this strain in the coco beds, there are far to many new variables to say one thing specifically that has made the plants go so busto this round.

As for the Silica well I have to come clean with you guys.. I was strainwhoring it up at the clubs in the big city and caught plant herpes... yep PM. been beating myself up over being such a dummy. been adding a small amount to my folier h202 spray which seems to be killing off any spores that my plants are spitting out.

Also been adding the silica to the res, the plants main stems are beefy but the colas are so heavy and stretched so long they they are flopping regardless.

I added a space heater on a thermostat so I can cycle my air at night to keep my humidity low but not freeze my plants out.
Keeping the environment locked has dramatically decreased any pm spotting.. going to have to do a major clean before the next round.. Ive beat PM before and am going to have to call on my secret cleaning weapon: sporicidin

More pics to come as we progress. Thanks everyone for tuning in.

 

[indianajones]

superthrive is mainly just alfalfa tea that's been super concentrated

for powdery mildew, you might want to look into a standing HEPA filter with built in UV filter for the room,
it will really cut down on spore load in the air and UV is an effective sterilizer as well.

i can help ya on chemical selection also, my background comes from BIG mushroom
grows, and sterility is always an issue in the tissue culture lab...

in between runs, dont spend a shitload of money on stuff to kill the PM spores
a simple solution that you can diy is paracetic acid, and it is much more effective and safe
for you and your babies than any chemical you can buy.

to make paracetic acid, spray a layer of vinegar over whatever you are wanting to sterilize
then spray hydrogen peroxide in a layer over it.

heres a quote from the paracetic acid wiki-

Peracetic acid is an ideal antimicrobial agent due to its high oxidizing potential. It is broadly effective against microorganisms and is not deactivated by catalase and peroxidase, the enzymes that break down hydrogen peroxide. It also breaks down in food to safe and environmentally friendly residues (acetic acid and hydrogen peroxide), and therefore can be used in non-rinse applications. It can be used over a wide temperature range (0–40 °C), over a wide pH range (3.0–7.5), in clean-in-place (CIP) processes, in hard water conditions, and is not affected by protein residues.

 

[shroomyshroom]

Put these on the bay already.............

 

[Slimm]

superthrive is mainly just alfalfa tea that's been super concentrated

for powdery mildew, you might want to look into a standing HEPA filter with built in UV filter for the room,
it will really cut down on spore load in the air and UV is an effective sterilizer as well.

i can help ya on chemical selection also, my background comes from BIG mushroom
grows, and sterility is always an issue in the tissue culture lab...

in between runs, dont spend a shitload of money on stuff to kill the PM spores
a simple solution that you can diy is paracetic acid, and it is much more effective and safe
for you and your babies than any chemical you can buy.

to make paracetic acid, spray a layer of vinegar over whatever you are wanting to sterilize
then spray hydrogen peroxide in a layer over it.

heres a quote from the paracetic acid wiki-

Thanks for info on the ST and paracetic acid @indianajones. I use H2O2 directly on plants to kill PM. Knocks it out instantly. I use a weak bleach and vinegar solution as a no-rinse cleaner - paracetic acid sounds even better - H2O2 is nicer to work with than bleach. I wonder if this can be used on plants?

 

[indianajones]

here's what i could find about paracetic acid with regards to plants online-
btw- in most scientific journals it is called peracetic acid since the technical name is peroxyacetic acid

from- http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1744-7348.2003.tb00281.x/abstract

Peracetic acid (PAA) has potential as a disinfectant of low environmental impact for glasshouse hydroponic systems and other horticultural applications, but can have phytotoxic effects. This study examined the physiological effects of PAA when applied hydroponically to tomato plants. Plants treated with 0.5–5 μg ml−1 PAA over several weeks exhibited a reduction in size of all vegetative organs. During the first 2 h of PAA treatment, plants also exhibited a transient wilting, with increased stomatal resistance, and reductions in transpiration and CO2 assimilation. The toxicity of PAA to roots was apparent from increased leakage of root electrolytes, reduced oxygen consumption, death of root tips, and collapse of the internal tissues. The shrivelling of PAA-treated roots resulted from loss of water to the shoot in the transpiration stream, as the effect could be eliminated by removal of the shoot and sealing of the cut stump. HgCl2, a reagent known to reduce the hydraulic conductivity of root systems, caused the same root shrivelling effects as PAA. Long-term growth of PAA-treated plants was dependent upon the replacement of taproot systems by adventitious roots, which, initially at least, displayed greater tolerance of PAA. In aqueous solution, PAA exists in equilibrium with H2O2 and acetic acid, both of which were individually toxic, but acetic acid exhibited a syndrome of effects distinct from those of PAA, while the effects of H2O2 paralleled those of PAA more closely, suggesting that oxidative rather than acidic mechanisms were primarily responsible for the phytotoxicity of PAA solutions.

according to this scientific document, hydrogen peroxide actually damages roots, but i don't know how much i buy into that...
maybe on the microscopic scale you have root tip death, but too many folks have anecdotal evidence using H2O2 for benefit for me to take that at face value.

I would say as a foliar spray you're good (within reason), but you might wanna mix it up before you spray it on the plant so that you're not givin' em a vinegar foliar feed

 

[Han Grolo]

a simple solution that you can diy is paracetic acid,
to make paracetic acid, spray a layer of vinegar over whatever you are wanting to sterilize
then spray hydrogen peroxide in a layer over it.

You get to work in a TC lab.. congrats! Always wanted to give it a go.

Thanks for the tip Indy. I already use this method for cleaning around the house, didn't realize it was creating an acid.
What a liked about the sporicidin is the 6 month staying power.
That way if any errant spores are still floating around they wont like what they land on.

Last time I turned off all my fans and let my lights run.. got the room up to 120 for about an hour after I did my wipe down.
I was thinking about trying to freeze the spores this time instead..to save my ballasts the hardship.
Do you by chance know the temps powdery mildew spores can survive at?

Put these on the bay already.............

These beans were made by my good friend..who is on this site.
The people have spoken homie!


So the ladies have been in bloom for 8 weeks now with 2 weeks left to go. PPM's were dropped to half strength for this next week.
Foliar rinse is now just water and h202 to rinse off any soap or silica left on the buds.

I'll try and get some lights off pics next week.. just the token corner shot today.

Thanks for the kind words, information and +rep everyone!

 

[indianajones]

120F is definitely not gonna be high enough to kill the spores
pasteurization is the technique used to kill the microbiological life in
everything from orange juice to horse manure for button mushrooms
and the temp range starts at 140F and goes up to 160F

lower than that and you won't see a full pasteurization, higher and you
risk killing off the beneficial elements of the composting process.

according to the paul stamets' book the mushroom cultivator you can
also pasteurize by holding the temps at 110-120F for 12 hrs, but IMO that
seems very energy intensive to run your lights for something a lil elbow
grease would be more effective at dealing with anyway. also ive no personal
experience using the 110-120 range, only 140-160.

 

[GEMiNi GENETiCS]

Looks real nice Han

Go on eBay and look up "poultry netting" I think you will like it much more than your current netting .. It has 2" holes and is very strong and flexible .. $20 for 20'x10'

And here's just a thought .. Since you already have PVC experience You should make a PVC frame that is 1' wider than both your trays and zip-tie the poultry netting to that frame .. So it gives you more play room for a SCRoG so you can have a set time to flip .. Flip when you nearly cover the screen over your containers(leaving the outer 1' empty .. Flip .. During flower stretch fill that last 1' and definately pinch those taller main stems .. The added knuckles from pinching will help hold up those fat gooey colas you got going on.

Looks so killer dude and I can only imagine the Exodus and SSH aroma's mixing and mutating into its own category of delicious garbage/musky/earthy spice

+rep bro for a killer run!

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

Plants look healthy and setup looks to be running nicely. Maybe this strain might respond nicely to a heavy defoliation? Ive been there on several occasions with the intense stretch.

 

[woolybear]

very cool grow. interesting use of landscape fabric, i would like to try that someday but i doubt i can find like $10 worth of fabric... or maybe i can!??!?!