High CBD strains, gotta have em!
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If I'm not mistaken.... you're referring to hemp that has CBD as it's "highest" active cannabinoid. Not a strain that has a high percentage of CBD in it.
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The strain may still have decent amounts of cbd in it, although I would make hash out of it if I lived in the area.
LazyGringo
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Isn't Tom Hill X18 supposed to be high in CBD?
Garwhali Jungli,
Himalyan Landrace very high CBD, almost no THC (very wild pheno)
Not my cup of tea at all however friends who suffer a little from depression, anxiety, panic attacks, etc found the smoke to be perfect for them.
The cool calm serene body high relaxed them and seemed to produce a great feeling for them but with none of the THC static or rush.
They could then smoke stronger strains that would usually have them whiteying but instead the jungli seems to provide a safe platform for them to journey from.
Holy Shit!! That is an epic and super real Sativa!!! Still have those seeds????
Hehe I'll try this again without naming any seed company Real or otherwise. The best place to look for high cbd phenotypes (finding a completely stable high cbd seed line is not really possible at the moment so it's a pheno hunt until someone releases one) is in landrace seeds from hash making regions like the himalayas, the one Hoots mentions in an earlier post is exactly the kind i'm talking about.
It has to be straight from the farmers unworked by western hands or ganja farmers (google might help here, there's one Real website that I know of that provides these and it's not WOS) as there's no selection towards thc like with ganja (marijuana) strains, hash farmers only really select for overall resin content if at all so the cannabinoid ratios tend to even themselves out.
On another forum a dude used a cannalyse kit to test the pack of seeds he bought and found an equal spread of thc>cbd cbd>thc and cbd=thc phenos. Look for unworked Himalayan strains and you should be able to find exactly what you're looking for without much trouble. They wont be easy to grow though and you wont get heavy solid nugs or anything but you might get some relief. I'll pop one of my packs soon and get in with the hunt but til then good luck.
I also think a lot of people are going to be disappointed with the effects of these high cbd phenotypes. A large amount of the relief people get from cannabis seems to come from thc and other cannabinoids (but mostly thc) interacting with terpenes to give an overall pleasureable effect. There are some ailments that seem to react well to cbd on it's own like autoimmune disorders but to most people looking for medicinal cannabis relief will be disappointed imo.
In a high cbd pheno you wont get that pleasureable relief, a lot of people report it as being a waste of smoke and that it 'does nothing' because they associate cannabis 'doing something' with being high. If you just want the relief without the high then it's worthwhile looking through the phenos for cbd but if you want to get high as well you'll need to take this into account.
P.s. I think looking in hemp or ditchweed won't be mush use, yes they have more cbd than thc but most of them hardly have any of either in the first place, they're bred for low cannabinoid content, so unless you fancy searching through thousands for that one with loads of resin then you're better off looking elsewhere.
Is Pops still around? anyone know how he's getting on?
It has to be straight from the farmers unworked by western hands or ganja farmers (google might help here, there's one Real website that I know of that provides these and it's not WOS) as there's no selection towards thc like with ganja (marijuana) strains, hash farmers only really select for overall resin content if at all so the cannabinoid ratios tend to even themselves out.
On another forum a dude used a cannalyse kit to test the pack of seeds he bought and found an equal spread of thc>cbd cbd>thc and cbd=thc phenos. Look for unworked Himalayan strains and you should be able to find exactly what you're looking for without much trouble. They wont be easy to grow though and you wont get heavy solid nugs or anything but you might get some relief. I'll pop one of my packs soon and get in with the hunt but til then good luck.
I also think a lot of people are going to be disappointed with the effects of these high cbd phenotypes. A large amount of the relief people get from cannabis seems to come from thc and other cannabinoids (but mostly thc) interacting with terpenes to give an overall pleasureable effect. There are some ailments that seem to react well to cbd on it's own like autoimmune disorders but to most people looking for medicinal cannabis relief will be disappointed imo.
In a high cbd pheno you wont get that pleasureable relief, a lot of people report it as being a waste of smoke and that it 'does nothing' because they associate cannabis 'doing something' with being high. If you just want the relief without the high then it's worthwhile looking through the phenos for cbd but if you want to get high as well you'll need to take this into account.
P.s. I think looking in hemp or ditchweed won't be mush use, yes they have more cbd than thc but most of them hardly have any of either in the first place, they're bred for low cannabinoid content, so unless you fancy searching through thousands for that one with loads of resin then you're better off looking elsewhere.
Is Pops still around? anyone know how he's getting on?
Ah, but except for a few modern experiments, they're not. 1-3% CBD and THC figures seen in relevant old (and new, unless stated otherwise) botany or forensic articles always refer to plants grown outdoors and sampled at some probably incorrect time, gone to seed or mostly leaf, maybe growing in dense stands whether wild or for fiber.
There is some variation, but because of many generations and the tendency for strong winds to blow all day when males are in flower (or any day where it would be nice if the wind wasn't blowing), there is more homogenization. A "stable" high CBD, low THC line would be the most likely result of a random ditchweed grab by a traveller. Any plant that has an indica look or any desirable trait is IME guaranteed to have no THC.
Don't shortchange ditchweed. The largest one I saw was growing by the town pool around 1982, it was about 18 feet tall and at least 10 feet wide, had a trunk, at least 8" diameter, and probably had 50 branches with the equivalent of at least a half-pound to a pound on each. That was one of the first 5 plants I ever smoked; no THC, all. I thought it was a tree at first, it towered over its siblings. You can dog walk along the tracks and find interesting traits any day Aug-Oct. In other areas of the world the feral hemp is probably more homogeneous, but locally there was much genetic importation from all corners up to the 30's; agricultural colleges grew the fuck out of it, and presumably gave out seeds here and there in addition to spreading pollen.
If you weren't a Nevil-type from somewhere else, or a hunter or rural-suburban kid or hardcore stoner from a current or former hemp area, you just don't know what it's like to meet untold thousands of plants at dozens of sites through your lifetime. A familiarity with the plant that many people only dream of at this site is possible locally for many who haven't smoked much less grown it. This has been dying out for new kids due to eradication efforts, and taming of the suburban landscape.
One of the ways to Beam test:
Swirl some milligrams of bud, decarboxylated or not, with a ml. or so of petroleum ether or other clean-extracting solvent for a while in a test tube.
Decant a couple drops onto a glass plate, like a blank microscope slide, and evaporate.
Add a drop or two of ~5% ~ethanolic ~KOH (haven't had to try IPA or methanol; KOH is convenient for everyone because NaOH does not dissolve easily in alcohols) and let evaporate in air for 5 minutes.
Purple/violet at this time indicates CBD(A) or CBG, strong drug strains will likely give just a white spot of dry alkali.
Obviously, the amount of CBD can be gauged by the amount of solute needed to produce a positive test. I don't know whether CBD and CBDA have exactly equivalent reactiveness here, but CBDA may not be quite as easily extracted from a high-CBDA sample as CBD is from decarboxylated material, when done quick and dirty.
IME the only particularly resinous ditchweed is more about insane pinene and maybe other terpenes content.
ditch weed also is not cultivated so its not the ideal way of growing it, but im sure with the right soil they would be even better in a single generation. Its quite amazing how many farms in the midwest have a hemp patch behind the barn that has been there forever and hopefully will continue to be there.
Yep it's a good point G.O.Joe makes (i've even read a study that says cannabis in the wild selects itself towards higher cannabinoid content) but i still think you'd be better off using an established drug variety to start with rather than trying to breed a new drug var. from a hemp or feral strain.
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jamminman, good luck with everything !!!
!) ROMULAN
2)BUBBA KUSH (PRE98)
3)N CALI PURPLE KUSH
years ago white rinho used to ruin me !!!
If you're getting 'ruined' from weed chances are it doesn't have a lot of cbd in it.
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The problem is, drug varieties with any CBD are few and far between. Breeding for getting high is breeding against CBD, and in the West, strains are not bred when only 25% of the plants are strong, and 25% are total bunk. Maybe the strong plant is bred, and there goes the CBD. Anyone who knows the botany of Cannabis when asked where to find a CBD strain, would say hemp. Who's talking about breeding a new variety? Well you could do F1's of standard ditchweed and any drug strain but again, your seeds will be a mix of THC, CBD, and mixed type. If you want both THC and CBD smoke AK and ditchweed together already.
One of my Sensi HP, that looked like the others, contained neither THC nor CBD.
jamminman
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The point many people can't rap their heads around is that you can't smoke enough anything (thc, cbd, cbn, cbc, etc.) to kill cancer cells. Also, consuming oil with no cbd's stops the spread and growth, but only slightly reduces the tumor size of my AS. If I take my current dose (over 1g daily) with too much thc, I can't function. Now it only takes 3 days of no oil to start spreading and popping up new tumors. So it's all good to keep me around anyway. I think this is going to be a topic that grows as people become enlightened.
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Z6 and Z7 strains by The CBD Crew
Z6 and Z7 strains by The CBD Crew
Some of the current Z7 from Shantibaba and the CBD Crew (Mr. Nice and Resin Seeds) has tested 15.52% CBD and 10.22% THC, almost 2.5 times the previous Z6 that had some phenos with ratios of 1:1 that were of approximately 5% for both CBD and THC.
Z6 and Z7 strains by The CBD Crew
Some of the current Z7 from Shantibaba and the CBD Crew (Mr. Nice and Resin Seeds) has tested 15.52% CBD and 10.22% THC, almost 2.5 times the previous Z6 that had some phenos with ratios of 1:1 that were of approximately 5% for both CBD and THC.
Z6 tested by a Sensimilla13 on Mr. Nice forums:
Shantibaba and crew are releasing these by auction on the Mr. Nice website. I was fortunate enough to get 10 seeds of Z7 and will have updates later. I grow outdoors in a greenhouse so it will be awhile.
MJ
Shantibaba and crew are releasing these by auction on the Mr. Nice website. I was fortunate enough to get 10 seeds of Z7 and will have updates later. I grow outdoors in a greenhouse so it will be awhile.
MJ
jamminman
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