Growin' My Blues Away

[rasputin]

Up in the sky? Up in the sky...

Up in the sky? Up in the sky...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMPAX8aA-Y

Starting week 2 in the tent...

Meanwhile, back in the lab...
White x Chem '91... starting to take off.

Honey White... that last seed to pop is still acting fussy but the others are all rolling along.

Head Trip... No clue what to expect so I'm looking forward to these.

LVPK, back in the stable.

 

[Guest3498]

Hell yeah bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIhxgeki3BQ

 

[rasputin]

Great tune, VADO. A legendary beat maker and AZ doing his thing.

Spent some time culling a couple males from the tent tonight. Any pith filled stems were culled. I haven't done enough with seeds yet to know how valuable that selection criteria is but I'm putting my faith in the wisdom of DJ Short and seeing what comes from it.

That put a good dent into the male numbers. I'm left with 6 males that are hollow stemmed, moderately fast growers with a variety of structures & leaf shapes. All the tallest males are out of the picture, a bummer for sure. One of them had a great structure and I was hoping it'd show some lady parts. The few left are all middle of the road as far as height. No shorties on the male side, there are two female short types that are the definite oddballs of the bunch.

Back in veg I've got a mystery plant going that is really starting to draw my attention. Confirmed female. Really sat-dom appearance, the last few days when she's been moved around or rubbed against there's been an unmistakable stank of dogshit with a hint of raunchy funk. I supercropped her top in preparation for flowering, I can already tell she's going to stretch to the moon, and after I pinched & bent her over that smell filled the entire veg room. My veg room has been pretty stinky lately overall but this is by far the worst individual offender I've come across yet in veg.

 

[cobcoop]

Lookin good my man! FWIW I look for structure and aroma in males, simply because they are the easiest traits to identify. Happy holidays to you and yours RAS! Stay safe man

 

[brotherindica]

Loving that tent Ras!!



Can't wait to see how your breeding project comes out.



White x 91's should be some serious dank too! Photos from Cob, SH, and Money looked like some crazy shit

 

[rasputin]

cob, . I hear that. I got a little lucky on structures, beginner's or dumb luck, take your pick. Most of the males I chucked weren't ones I had noted as worthwhile or interesting prior to finding out about the stems. I only culled two that had shapes I liked, on account of the stem trait but overall culling for the stem trait really thinned the numbers. Hollow seems uncommon.

They were also the tallest, fastest growers so that seemed to support the hemp theory but they were really nice. Branchy, vigorous with an open-head structure that you could see pushing out multiple tops on a female. Tried to find the happy balance but I was a bit of a fascist for hollow stems, I'll admit.

One male I've kept has a nice columnar shape with compact side branching and a sharp mint smell. His flower clusters look really good too, real densely stacked together.

The male structures ranged from columnar, open head, pyramidal and globe. No weeping/creeper types or vase-like shapes, like the S99 mom. The females are a bit more wide open on shapes, some have multiple aspects of different traditional shapes in one.

There's a creeper lady that is vegging similar to KKSC, it's wider than it is tall and its branches grow horizontally, not vertically. Coincidentally the "#1" labeled pot, I made a note to take extra cuttings from her and she turned out to be hollow stemmed and has a lovely smell just from a stem rub. Time will tell if any of that means anything.

I forgot my notebook in the tent but I want to go back and double check, see what structures were on what males and see how that relates to the stem trait, if at all.

Tom Hill has an interesting theory that a plant has only so much available energy 'in a day' to do the things it needs to do. Figuring out what particular areas the plants chosen to dedicate energy to seems to be the trick. The creeper phenos, so the theory goes, use less energy to grow leaves, stems, and stalk so perhaps that energy is being saved up to develop flowers and oils. I've noticed that some of the better clone only varieties I've grown and smoked are hollow stemmed and really floppy in late bloom. Not a definitive statement on the trait but worth making note of, IMO.

What I'm interested in finding out is, can a plant that spends a lot of energy in veg growing fiber switch gears in bloom and put that energy elsewhere or is it doomed to be a cabbage plant all its life?

Brotherindica, thanks for stopping by man. I know those Whitex91s will produce a gem or two. Can't miss with that blend. The tent is a long term project but I knew I had to get this first round out of the way now because I won't be doing full on seed runs like this for a while. Maybe a little light dusting here & there, it's hard to stop once you start!

Happy Festivus to all my friends who've stopped by and spent some time with me in the garden!

Enjoy the Holidays and be safe.

 

[milo_xxx]

What I'm interested in finding out is, can a plant that spends a lot of energy in veg growing fiber switch gears in bloom and put that energy elsewhere or is it doomed to be a cabbage plant all its life?

I love this thread ras....

I lurk here quite often....

I have also thought the same thing.... but you worded my thought much more eloquently....

and I also look for/lean towards hollow stems in a keeper....

 

[Fluffy Clouds]

that head trip sounds like fire to me... there are some crosses with bshw like sage or chimera´s bshw x blueberry.. i know sage is excellent... i bet this bodhi´s work will not be exception... i expect heady smoke...

yes i read something like that from tom hill too.. im curious about his further dchaze work, about F4 of it... its very interesting hypothesis for sure also remember that dj short says that males with hollow stems are more suitable, so to say... i think at least i had bad memory

cheers

 

[rasputin]

Thanks milo, appreciate the good vibes.

Fluffy, I was wrong regarding the Head Trip lineage. Did some homework the other day and found out there's no BSHW in it. It's the Katsu cut of Chocolate Trip that is used as the Mom. I should have caught that earlier, the pack from Bodhi says Chocolate Trip right on it.

Choc. Trip is a Dutch Flowers hybrid. Supposedly originated from Chocolate Thai seeds that they then worked into an indoor-friendly hybrid.

The male side is correct, though. Bodhi's Snow Lotus male, Afgooey x Blockhead.

Here's Dutch Flowers blurb on the Choc. Trip...

We obtained Chocolate Thai from growers in Hawaii (who also sourced our Lemon Thai, already offered here). The Chocolate Thai had a classically thunderous, soaring high that immediately won everyone's preference. Unfortunately, the superb quality came with a 14 week flowering period price tag. The buds were incredibly aromatic and resin coated, but very spindly, with strings venturing on their own out of the thin main floral cluster, giving it an overall skimpy braided look. Curious structure, definitely landrace looking, but hardly productive even outdoors.

... Chocolate Thai demanded a lot of work to make it worth growing for the indoor grower. We used an Indigo Diamond female crossed to a male Chocolate Thai and selected the best female out of over a hundred seedlings. This female was then pollinized with a pollen pool composed of the three best males of a twin cross where the roles were reversed, i.e. a Chocolate Thai mother crossed with an Indigo Diamond male.

Lineage: (Indigo Diamond X Chocolate Thai) X (Chocolate Thai X Indigo Diamond)

 

[cobcoop]

bohdi puts out some really interesting gear for sure. I'm sure you'll love em.

 

[MeltingPOT]

Looking good, Rasp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI3oswxdeUw

 

[rasputin]

Let's Get It On...

Let's Get It On...

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Week 4 starts today... finally caught them before lights turned on. Getting freaky in the tent. Gonna give them 4-5 more days, then put the boys in a separate space to collect individual and mixed pollen.

I took cuts of every male & female on the 23rd. On the 28th, Plant #20 had already rooted two of its four cuttings. It's the only one to root so far, and is the fastest plant to root I've come across yet.

2 stand out males in the smell department, one is all mint, the other is sweet with a touch of skunk. It's kinda floral at first and then there's a funky bottom to it.

Here's some shots from today, day 22.

The Mint Stud...

This is plant number 001, the lady I described in an earlier post. Has some favorable physical features. Very interested in sampling this one.

 

[rasputin]

The two oddball ladies... both real squat, slow growers. They both have similar features to the S99 mom but grow completely unlike her.

 

[rasputin]

Jet Pilots...

Jet Pilots...

Intersex traits. Only 4 ladies are without them so it appears. Past experience with these on some Chem Sour D's proved to be harmless; the best plants showed them from seed but not as clones and no further issues came of it.

Their presence doesn't bother me much in general though I would've preferred this line having less but culling is an overreaction. I'm indifferent to them on a bad day, at this point the name of the game remains observation. I think many growers, myself included, misunderstand these traits and much genetic material has been lost as a result.

Some shots showing profiles & flowers developing after the recent pollination. Some are showing signs they'll be flowering for a while but most look to be in the 65-75 day range. Most of the ladies have the pink/copper pistils like S99. Something I noticed after they all got hit up.

 

[MeltingPOT]

The name of the game remains observation....

Keep the good stuff comin'.

 

[TacomaComa]

good stuff Ras! thanks for sharing

 

[cobcoop]

Nice update ras! I know I sure have culled my fair share of plants that I regret... Keep up the good work

 

[rasputin]

The Prologue

The Prologue

Muchos gracias, comrades.

This is just the start of what may turn into a long, interesting tale. Or not. Who knows? I certainly won't pretend to. That's how ya get in trouble.

The aim is simple: find the finest plant. Keep the best, cull the rest. Sounds easy when you say it like that. But what's the best? Hard enough figuring that out. Then there's that whole deal of finding it.

Come sampling time, I've got a plan in place to account for any potential bias creep. I have a lab assistant that'll be renumbering all the samples so at test time I won't know that sample #4 is actually plant #16. Real hi-tech science stuff, like NASA.

I'll be sharing some with friends who grow to get a real honest take. I don't have any friends that don't grow who I'd be comfortable asking to sample some buds and give me a smoke report but I plan to gauge their reactions in a more discrete way.

Some of the other ladies I didn't get around to posting yesterday.

The other shorty... #06 is the other.

 

[ProblemChild]

Whaddup bruh glad to catch ya around, was looking for sum of your stuff over at the other place and couldn't find it.. gotta catch up on what's going on over here.. got sumthing going on I think you'd respect. Get at mecome check me out

 

[paulo73]

Awesome show your putting up
All the best for it.