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Meraxes

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hey all, strarting to get some nice white hairs at bud sites so we're looking ok. the Top Skunk looks as healthy as can be, its just this Northern lights that seems to a little sick due to this "claw" on the top shoots. layed of epsom /calmag for a while, flushed, and started just the balanced 6/9 M/B. i got my inline fan combo in and some liq koolbloom. i'll wait to apply any until the NL improves a little. these inline fans are a lot bigger than i thought. still deciding how i'm going to hook it up with a 5x4x2 tent, need all the height i can get for the plants and this is a monstrosity thats actually pretty loud. i know have to get a muffler and more clamps. getting expensive. i guess first timers have to drop a ton of cash to have a successful, secure, first grow. eye on the prize.....
 

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The girls look fine to me but pics don't really do them justice i'm sure . i love protekt , i use it from start to finish , yes its a great plant resistance builder for the stems , bug & mold resistance . but it also adds to the frostyness in flowering . i'd advise you use it . as long as theres a fan blowing across the canopy or at the bulb your canopy temps should be fine , sounds like you have great air movement so not really sure about the claw on the NL . if everything else is good , just stick with what your doing . maybe get the NL next to the intake or in the corner of the tent so they're not right under the light . that might help , they may just not like the direct heat like the others .
really seems like your doing fine , just a little worried cuz its your first grow .
the rust spots your taking about is a calcium def & the yellowing leaves you mentioned sounds like a magnesium def . so my suggestion of dropping the calmag may have been bad advice without reading this first , i'm gonna suggest that you use the calmag but start out low like 2 or 3 ml per gallon that should clear up those problems , if they still exist . the clawing your gonna have to play around with moving the plants so they're getting better air flow . they're probably just a finicky strain , my SD & OK were like that .

i'll go back & read the whole thread again but i think you'll be fine .
your tap water is a low ppm i noticed which is why your getting calmag def's . use the calmag at 2ml per gallon during veg & add a 1/4 tsp of epsom salts per gallon also during flower , they need less calcium during flower that they need magnesium so the epsom helps with that . 3 ml of protekt will help things along considerably also .

good luck brother , any questions just ask :)
 

Meraxes

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yeah i didnt think i'd be doing so well at this stage for a first grow. been carefull to up ppm gradually and not to overwhelm it with anything. i'll start easing some epsom back in. before i was doing a tsp but i'll give it a 1/4, like a pinch pretty much. i'll get some protekt, seems inexpensive. i'm in day 17 of flower, on day 15, i gave 200ppm of koolbloom i just got in, the liquid. lowered the mic/blm a tad to give cushion, so about 900ppm total. i'll go ahead and move the NL a a little out of direct light for ya dans. thanks again your grace....
 
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yeah i didnt think i'd be doing so well at this stage for a first grow. been carefull to up ppm gradually and not to overwhelm it with anything. i'll start easing some epsom back in. before i was doing a tsp but i'll give it a 1/4, like a pinch pretty much. i'll get some protekt, seems inexpensive. i'm in day 17 of flower, on day 15, i gave 200ppm of koolbloom i just got in, the liquid. lowered the mic/blm a tad to give cushion, so about 900ppm total. i go ahead and move the NL a a little out of direct light for ya dans. thanks again your grace....

my seedling pop-out looking find. why did you get Koolbloom instead of using Lucas during the flowering period?
 

Meraxes

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not doing lucas, doing the rezdog based method. its a variation of the Lucas with koolbloom. getting some dynagrow protekt as a silicon supplement to boost its immunity. weedss, start a grow thread and put it in your sig with some pics. saw the cab, nice job
 

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my seedling pop-out looking find. why did you get Koolbloom instead of using Lucas during the flowering period?

weedss, i got liquid koolbloom as a bud booster. i only apply it once every 15 days on top of the regular 6/9 feed. the 6/9 usually gives me around 750 ppm, with 2 tsp of koolbloom its 950. i've been aiming for 900ppm tho. i'm currently in day 18 of flower. worried theyre getting too tall for the tent, and what to do if it does
 

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what i do with the epsom salts is mix 100grams of epsom in a 1 litler bottle of tap water & feed that @ 3ml per gallon during flowering . its equal to about 1/3 tsp per gallon & works great in flower . also keep adding the calmag @ low doses of 2ml per & you should be fine with the coco . any other medium , like promix the calmag can be dropped after the flip to 12 -12 , but coco needs that calmag to make up for the extra pottasium thats in coco. they equal each other out so your nutes don't get locked out from too much of one thing .

theres a thread here that i did when i first got into coco . a member named snowcrash helped me out with learning the cation differences & I think you should read through it . it has a shit ton of good info from snow crash .

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=218226

good luck bro ,
 

Meraxes

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what i do with the epsom salts is mix 100grams of epsom in a 1 litler bottle of tap water & feed that @ 3ml per gallon during flowering . its equal to about 1/3 tsp per gallon & works great in flower . also keep adding the calmag @ low doses of 2ml per & you should be fine with the coco . any other medium , like promix the calmag can be dropped after the flip to 12 -12 , but coco needs that calmag to make up for the extra pottasium thats in coco. they equal each other out so your nutes don't get locked out from too much of one thing .

theres a thread here that i did when i first got into coco . a member named snowcrash helped me out with learning the cation differences & I think you should read through it . it has a shit ton of good info from snow crash .

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=218226

good luck bro ,

thats pretty smart since you dont have to sit around and wait for the epsom crystals to dissolve, i started foliar feeding epsom at 1/4 tsp/gal so it dosent mess with whats going in the root zone, everyother feeding day. i'll give that a read definitely
 

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no i'm moving in a couple months, so i just want a good yield, pack up, and then i'll set up a perpetual grow at the new place. going to build a big 3 chamber stealth wardrobe for revolving 4 to 6 plants. got the inline fan combo in for it already.
 

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no i'm moving in a couple months, so i just want a good yield, pack up, and then i'll set up a perpetual grow at the new place. going to build a big 3 chamber stealth wardrobe for revolving 4 to 6 plants. got the inline fan combo in for it already.

sounds good dude , can't wait to see it come to life :)
 

Meraxes

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sounds good dude , can't wait to see it come to life :)

yeah i found a 3 door wardrobe for just $150. its lockable and tall, what more could you ask for. i'll make sure i document the set up with a good camera, to repay you guys that helped me with some good eye candy.
dans, the top shoots on the Northern Lights.......no more claw, they're standing right up at attention. you're a gentleman and a scholar sir.....
 
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the claw thing is due to the heat. and make sure you have good RH rate too bro. How are you controlling your temp in the tent?. Did you get an A/c?
 

Meraxes

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no my temps are below 80, i think my ph was too low at 5.6. when i raised it to 5.8 or 5.9, and cut back on so much cal and mag, it stopped.
 
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ah ok. I check my run-off ph. should get 6.2~6.5. i get 6.5. check yours later kk
 

Meraxes

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i dont check ph in runoff because it is variable and can swing depending on nutes. to check ph in coco, you take 1 part coco from your pot, put in cup and mix it up with 5 parts water then check. to be honest i havent checked ph once. lol because everyone says if you ph everything going in to 5.8, you shouldnt have problems. if i saw a bad deficiency i probably would, but havent yet
 
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