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What is happening to the USA??? Give us your input.

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SpasticGramps

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Coburn proposed to stop the IMF bailouts of bankrupt eurzone the other day. :good: Shocking.

Lotts of false choices in the end though IMO.
 

dagnabit

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They're doing your bidding unless you're willing to allow terrorists to be tried in civilian courts.

allowed?

you don't "allow" an unalienable right...

that ALL men are endowed with these rights.

not some..
not the ones we agree with ALL men.

these aren't just words to me...
 

DiscoBiscuit

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allowed?

you don't "allow" an unalienable right...

that ALL men are endowed with these rights.

not some..
not the ones we agree with ALL men.

these aren't just words to me...

Didn't mean to be misleading. It's the military tribunal vs civilian court thing.
 

dagnabit

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Didn't mean to be misleading. It's the military tribunal vs civilian court thing.

ohh i get it....

my reply still applies.

to be clear....
they deserve their day in court just like anyone else.
however,i believe the jury pool should still be american citizens. i realize the could be construed as not a jury of their peers but, their crimes(alleged)are against us so there is room for wiggle.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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ohh i get it....

my reply still applies.

Since you're convoluted as always I'll clarify my point. If you don't want civilian trials for international terrorists, aka enemy combatants, you risk subjecting US citizens to the same treatment up to and including indefinite incarceration without charge.
 
Maybe if Iran really did wipe isearel off the map maybe the world would be better off. No im not a Jew hater. Im a Zionist hater and I dislike the Rothchilds who took over Isreal long ago.
 

dagnabit

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Since you're convoluted as always I'll clarify my point. If you don't want civilian trials for international terrorists, aka enemy combatants, you risk subjecting US citizens to the same treatment up to and including indefinite incarceration without charge.

WTF is convoluted exactly?

i realize you assume my position and can't handle your assumption being challenged.
i've said it several ways. i cant say it any plainer for you...

i want civilian trials for international terrorists, aka enemy combatants.
i believe the opening words of the letter to king george.

is that to convoluted for you?
 

DiscoBiscuit

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WTF is convoluted exactly?

allowed?

you don't "allow" an unalienable right...

that ALL men are endowed with these rights.

not some..
not the ones we agree with ALL men.

these aren't just words to me...

How does that apply to terrorists and justice? Military tribunals or civilian courts?

i realize you assume my position and can't handle your assumption being challenged.
i've said it several ways. i cant say it any plainer for you...

i want civilian trials for international terrorists, aka enemy combatants.
thank you

i believe the opening words of the letter to king george.

is that to convoluted for you?
"i want civilian trials for international terrorists" is crystal clear.
 

dagnabit

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so is ALL men...

unless you don't understand in the first place or your predrawn conclusions are so strong as to override your processes...
 

DiscoBiscuit

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... unless you don't understand in the first place or your predrawn conclusions are so strong as to override your processes...

Fair enough.

I'll admit the 180 degree post and the recitative response to an a or b question kinda glossed me over. I guess I'm not used to seeing you and convention stand in the same shadow. My bad.
 

forty

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What is happening to the USA???

What is happening to the USA???

reclaiming their territory.
 
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