heath inspired test prototype (aero)

[bobblehead]

Ahhhh.......The circle of life.....wayta recycle Bobbles...

Usedta run my dehueys into my R/O topoff tanks ftw......All about where yas are geographically ta control said environment......

Holler if we can help FC.......Handle it....

Peace...DHF.........

Only one problem with that bro... And more than likely you were prepared.. dehueys w/ a copper coil can leach copper into the water, leading to a copper toxicity in the plants... Or at least that's what I've read, and being why I use dehuey water in my humidifier and not my feed tanks.

 

[d4nk]

this thing is looking awesome finally! way to stick it out through the early problems

 

[esteboatan]

Cant wait to see what it looks like after you have done the trimming up of things. I always wonder how much is a good amount to cut away. Get us some pics again after you remove some of the shade.

Really is looking super nice in there bro.

 

[Guest 88950]

FC

looking very nice, add as much light as you can handle.

BH

i know copper was used in stills for making moonshine b/c it didnt leach any harmful toxins and old plumbing is copper.

but, better safe than troubleshooting problems with your girls.

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks for the props guys! Yea i wish i had more confidence in my trimming capabilities. In my previous horizontal grows i always trimmed up a ton of bottom branches. The more aggressive i was it seemed the better the harvest.
Im pretty new to vertical and i know the trimming is a bit different and it takes some time to master. It just seems logical to trim away any weak growth, the backsides, and any plant matter not receiving adequate light. But i know there is an art to it.

 

[bobblehead]

FC

looking very nice, add as much light as you can handle.

BH

i know copper was used in stills for making moonshine b/c it didnt leach any harmful toxins and old plumbing is copper.

but, better safe than troubleshooting problems with your girls.

Ethanol is a nonpolar solvent, water is polar... RO, distilled, and deionized water will do their best to attract ions. dehuey water is pretty much equivilant to distilled.

Houses with old plumbing have water that tastes funny for those reasons.

 

[DHF]

Only one problem with that bro... And more than likely you were prepared.. dehueys w/ a copper coil can leach copper into the water, leading to a copper toxicity in the plants... Or at least that's what I've read, and being why I use dehuey water in my humidifier and not my feed tanks.

You`re absolutely right Bro , and I should`ve elaborated a lil further in that ANY dehuey worth havin has titanium "innards" and units with copper guts should be avoided at all costs for just as you stated if you`ll be using runoff for topoffs and such......but....for the record.....

In late flower I was drainin maybe 8 gals a day outta the air and runnin each dehuey into it`s own 150 gal "potable water" tank that was elevated with float valves gravity fed above and into the 325 gal main rez`s so I`m not sure even if I had copper guts in my dehuey`s that they`d be affecting the overall health of my feed rez`s with the minute amounts goin in as a top off and mixing with 100`s of gals of R/O and feedjuice......so....

Thanks for bringin that to the forefront Bobbles cuz I have read a long time ago of toxicity in smaller rez`s runnin older dehuey`s back to rez`s be they top off or main feed tanks......but....

Dehuey`s with titanium guts ftw.......Yas get whatchas yas pay fer in this `ol world....Ya`ll don`t skimp on equipment costs.....Buy bigger than yas need like Bobbles and dial shit down with controllers.......Bottom line.....

Overkill`s underrated....Carry on FC....killer job...

Peace.....DHF..........

 

[Guest 88950]

Ethanol is a nonpolar solvent, water is polar... RO, distilled, and deionized water will do their best to attract ions. dehuey water is pretty much equivilant to distilled.

Houses with old plumbing have water that tastes funny for those reasons.

aah, thx Bobble

 

[farmhouse cat]

Hey DHF.... how would you go about trimmin this beast? cut out the backs? pull branches forward that are long enough ? defoliate over time the last couple weeks? Should i throw some nets? or just tie branches back?

 

[farmhouse cat]

In late flower I was drainin maybe 8 gals a day outta the air and runnin each dehuey into it`s own 150 gal "potable water" tank that was elevated with float valves gravity fed above and into the 325 gal main rez`s so I`m not sure even if I had copper guts in my dehuey`s that they`d be affecting the overall health of my feed rez`s with the minute amounts goin in as a top off and mixing with 100`s of gals of R/O and feedjuice....

Thats interesting...how many plants were you feeding having to use a 325 gal main tank? I ask beacuse at 2 weeks in flower using a 55 gallon drum, the 20 plants i have in this system are drinking down about 10 gallons a day. At that rate i can only imagine how much they will drink later in flower. Which brings the question of how often is optimal to change out the reservoir for fresh nutes.

Math would dictate that at 5 gallons a day, every 5 days? The amount being added back in.

So far my ppms and ph have been solid in the fact that the ppms drop 20-30 ppms a night and the ph rises from 5.8 to 5.9 a night.

 

[DHF]

I started usin bigass rez`s after Heath talked me into runnin flip rooms with increased plant numbers and 2 rooms flippin on and off every 12 hrs , a month or so apart in age for perpetual harvey that my Krusty buckets with big plants had been limiting me on returns on each location............so......

When I went coco DTW with even more increased plant numbers I built in redundancy factors for the topoff tanks with the dehueys addin back whatever they could just cuz I didn`t like wastin anything....Hell......

I ran my R/O waste outside for landscape irrigation on the houses I was remodelin.......

Where tanks end up ph and ppm wise is what you make of em depending on size......I usedta set my rez`s at 5.5 PH and and at the most 750 ppms for a whole week before returning to each location to be a lil over 6 ph and maybe 600 ppms , so it`s all in what you`ve got to accomplish rez management wise for X amount of time till swapouts/addbacks depending on your regimen...........

Holler if I can help Bro.......DHF..........

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks man.. Im doing the same with my RO waste. Im leaving the room unattended for the first time. Im gonna be gone for 3 days. I hope everything is fine while im gone. Its always scary the first time .

 

[prowler]

FC: Everything will be fine - no doubt about it but check and re-check that branches aren't growing to or falling towards bulb before leaving. That always bugs me when i'm gone.

 

[bobblehead]

It's good to have the old man back... I missed your insight Freds.

 

[DHF]

Yeah.....Dehuey runoff has 0 ppm`s and dead neutral ph @ 7 being neither acid nor alkaline or at least that`s what mine was , and that`s why the shit`s perfect as an addback and I used it for many many yrs....but....buy the best equipment yas can.....it`ll make yas happy....and.....

Bobble`s explanation ftw with the science behind said runoff......so....

FC.....Where I live RH is well over 80% yr round so dehuey`s ruled my world for late flower till end of cycle , and they ran 24/7 at my dryin sheds with constant air exchange.....

As far as hackin out the backs of the plants.......Yes....but remember this.....hack , prune , and shape yer plants where they only have defined lateral branches and mainstems for cola development without buncha flarfy sucker branches and un-needed foliage after end of stretch for optimum yield results.......

My plants always looked like 32-36" mini x-mas trees with the bottom 12" gone for max lumen penetration and absorption into all of the canopy with the light bouncin off the reflectix all round the room and comin back at em for full swelllage.......

Angled rack plants don`t need hacked out from behind thus increasing yield potential since the plants are pointed at the lights instead of havin dark spots in the back up against the walls on a stadium setup .......

Good luck Bro....DHF........

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks DHF!

I started hackin away tonight.

Heres the before shot. I will put up the after shot tomorrow. I forgot and turned on the light before i could take the after shot, But it doesnt look much different and i filled a trash bag full...lol

 

[bobblehead]

nice! I hope my canopy looks a little something like that!

 

[farmhouse cat]

Thanks Bobble!

Heres the after trim shots. Like i said, it doesnt look much different. Im gonna have to trim a few more times over the next few weeks.

 

[Guest 88950]

very nice job FHC.............this is going to get stickey.

looks like room for a bottom row in there.

 

[bobblehead]

Those plants look very healthy bro, congrats... Just go in there once a week and take as many large fan out as you can, and then go back the next week, and the next week... until the plants are in week 8 and have nothing left on them but sugar leaves.

I've been lazy on my defoiling up until now... but with larger grows, imo it's mandatory to follow this practice, otherwise leaves start dying, and receding into the buds and inducing rot. That's unless you don't flush... cause if you don't flush then you'll have vibrant green leaves at harvest instead of the yellow nasty looking things that the plants ate up in their last days...