Occupy Wall Street: Not on major media but worth watching!
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you can chalk your que any way you like
diced and sweated with minced garlic and fresh greenbeans tonight.
what should the cap be?
They could always form non-public aka secret organizations of legislators, would-be legislators (aka lackeys) and corporate executives. Legislators and lackeys would get a break on membership fees and execs would pay as much as 25k to influence special-interest legislation.
See, special-interest means that by-and-large, it ain't your interest.
But then that would be too much like Alec and the Kock brothers. Not to mention the fact that two individuals have contributed as much as $100,000,000.00 to right-wing causes since 1973.
Instead, we have folks like Soros. This demon actually publishes his policy initiatives. Donations include publication of whom and how much they contribute.
Transparent government activism
...novel concept. But oh so evil.
See, special-interest means that by-and-large, it ain't your interest.
But then that would be too much like Alec and the Kock brothers. Not to mention the fact that two individuals have contributed as much as $100,000,000.00 to right-wing causes since 1973.
Instead, we have folks like Soros. This demon actually publishes his policy initiatives. Donations include publication of whom and how much they contribute.
Transparent government activism
...novel concept. But oh so evil.
you get no argument from me concerning the republikunts...
i realize both parties are whores.
coin operated wholly owned subsidiaries of their corporate masters.
the bailout recipients were also in both '08 candidates top 5 donors..
but wait it was the same in '04?!?!?
GS,ML and citigroup all in both candidates top 5? you betcha!
couldn't be the same in '00 though right?
care to take a guess?
pattern recognition is a sign of "higher thinking"
i realize both parties are whores.
coin operated wholly owned subsidiaries of their corporate masters.
the bailout recipients were also in both '08 candidates top 5 donors..
but wait it was the same in '04?!?!?
GS,ML and citigroup all in both candidates top 5? you betcha!
couldn't be the same in '00 though right?
care to take a guess?
pattern recognition is a sign of "higher thinking"
What was your point? That's right, you never made one.
you can chalk your que any way you like
diced and sweated with minced garlic and fresh greenbeans tonight.
what should the cap be?
Here's an idea. Get you a piece of cardboard and a marker. Write "LIMITLESS EXECUTIVE BONUSES FTW" and protest the protesters.
JP Morgan just donated $4.6 million dollars to the NYPD. Protection money to the NYPD thugs. The institutional corruption is just so amazingly blatant these days.
How much $$ did they donate after 911?
So you want unlimited special-interest influence yet expect your lawmakers to be immune from this influence.
You've gotta get off this business vs government as if they're arch enemies. It's really messing with your ability to reason.
For example, you hire a thug to shake people down and then expect those same people not to revile you - because you finance the thug.
It takes decades but you're finally able to convince ~20% of the folks you rip off that you and the thug are actually arch enemies. In fact, you tell this 20% it's not your funding that ultimately rips em all off, it's the thug forcing your hand... the thug that couldn't walk and chew gum w/o your money.
This is the single largest donation to the NYPD Foundation. Ever.
It's not advice to the guy that can't escape sound-bite logic. It's example to demonstrate the difference between spin and reason.
I get it, you're all rubber now. You need to pay attention, otherwise you risk irrelevance. I'm arguing macro economics, not socioeconomics. Apparently you can't tell the difference between politics and a calculator.
do you?
i don't remember suggesting such?
enemies?!?!?
whores and their johns are far from enemies.
i suggest collusion from both parties not enmity.
my point exactly.
except the thug can walk talk chew gum and run a ponzi scheme or 100 at the same time...
the "protesters" are the ones who seem to think the thug is responsible when the financier,thug and willing to sign on the line "victim" all share responsibility for the mess.
Yes. You always wiggle away from prior posts. You wouldn't be asking others to equate if you didn't have an argument against executive pay limits.
Get the big money out of politics = less collusion
Exactly?
You're actually diametrically opposed. This thug can't slap his ass with both hands w/o special interest money.You apply zero proportion and you're wrong again. Follow the money. Get money out of politics and they're no different than us. Then we don't have to point the finger at each other while we solve problems. The corporate vs gov't koolade is poisoning the discussion.
You miss much more.
so no cap..
got it
again you and i agree money out of politics is a great thing.
id go a step further and cap campaign spending as well as lobbying money all together.
then we might actually get 2 or 3 parties instead of the 1 we have now.
the only one here drinking the govt. vs. bus. flavr aid (it was grape flavr aid bastard was to cheap for kool aid)seems to be you.
i suggest they are in bed together and you harp on about how im touting the opposite.
got it
again you and i agree money out of politics is a great thing.
id go a step further and cap campaign spending as well as lobbying money all together.
then we might actually get 2 or 3 parties instead of the 1 we have now.
the only one here drinking the govt. vs. bus. flavr aid (it was grape flavr aid bastard was to cheap for kool aid)seems to be you.
i suggest they are in bed together and you harp on about how im touting the opposite.
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they're trying to shed light on the fact that America's economic policies only benefit the top 1% of Americans - the filthiest of the rich. And it's true.
A lot of veterans are getting involved now, pointing out the fact that people are dying in Afghanistan so that filthy rich pigs can make more money...on top of the vast quantities of money they already have.
A lot of veterans are getting involved now, pointing out the fact that people are dying in Afghanistan so that filthy rich pigs can make more money...on top of the vast quantities of money they already have.
so no cap..
got it
I answered your question in post 120. I didn't quantify because you're more into totality than dynamic underpinnings afford.
No better example. You've gone from creaking toward no executive pay limits to waxing lobbying money altogether. Little regard toward degree or intent. Lobbying keeps government dynamic. Only part of it is involved w/ special interests at our expense. You can't knee-jerk this end of the spectrum any more than the other.
You seem to be a mix of meandered principles and word mincing. Last several years of posts suggest you're a free market constitutionalist. We start here with you questioning executive pay limits (and repeatedly demanding how much,) as if somebody here has a statistical value. You're arguing principle, plain and simple. And if you have additional context, I just wonder why we didn't get it before.
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