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Vick on dogfighting in GQ: ‘People act like it’s some crazy thing they never heard of

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Slangheat

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You know...it is amazing how judgmental a bunch of people can be, who PARTICIPATE IN AN ILLEGAL CULTURE in the USA. I mean come on, don't we all grow weed here? And isn't that shit illegal?? Some do it to "provide medicine", some do it to make money, and some do it just because its fucking fun to do, and they like to smoke weed. The point is, that everyone has their reasons for doing what they do, and unless you are that man, how can you speak on his choices? You can have your opinions of what he did...but to go as far as to insult his character, call him ignorant, etc...just seems like a little much from people who have to defend their right to do something that most see as totally unacceptable.

Cookie Monster, you too may burn in hell for the choices you have made, but yet you seem to be able to place yourself higher than another who's made his own bad choices.

I'm not defending Vick, as I think dog fighting is cruel, but we have a lot to learn as people.

solarz

It sure sounds like a defense for Vick... and a pretty terrible one at that.

'Well, what you do is illegal too!' - First off, my weed doesn't chain something to a treadmill, electrocute it, or cause harm to others. My weed doesn't give me the ability to be a cold-mother fucker that can torture other living things for no god damn reason...

Put yourself in Vick's shoes during the time he was doing the dog fighting. You just come home, you check out your 'business' and you hear constant yelping and crying from multiple dogs. Really, get a good mental image of this: Blood-curdling yelps and screams from an animal who's only instinct is to survive in a situation they were forced to be in.

Now, imagine chaining that dog up to whatever random device you feel like at the time - forcing the dog to run non-stop till it reaches exhaustion... drowning a dog, literally, drowning it to death. Electrocuting it, watching the body of the animal convulse and move involuntarily because of all the volts your putting through it's body. Taking a stick and beating an animal, causing incredible pain to something that, if treated well, would only want to be a loyal companion to you.

Ya man, growing weed and torturing an animal is the same exact level of immorality, because the man said so. Fuck that mindset dude, if you really see things this way, I'd kindly ask you to pull head out of ass.
 

Puffaluffagus

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My dogs are my children, and my pit is the sweetest, most loving dog you have ever seen.
I can hold a piece of steak in my fingers, and all he will do is lick them until I stick it out far enough for him to take without his teeth touching my fingers.

Vic should have been hung.

This is the same "culture" that thinks flash mob robberies and beatings are ok too.
Just because everybody in your neighborhood is doing it, does not make it right.
 
i'm actually surprised he was allowed to play again. dog fighting revolves around gambling, and i didnt think the nfl would risk him betting on his own games
 

Slangheat

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i'm actually surprised he was allowed to play again. dog fighting revolves around gambling, and i didnt think the nfl would risk him betting on his own games

I wish I could find the article - but he actually had a very, very well thought out plan to rehab his image. Plenty of fools fell for it, especially the ones who stood to make money off of his athletic skills.

If Vick really realized his actions, he wouldn't give a fuck about playing football, but that's obviously his only concern and focus, which is sad. I don't happen to think a few appearances and made-up speeches (that he doesn't believe himself) make up for all of that shit.
 

Slangheat

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Yall are totally missing the point. Its cool, continue with your "opinions". Have a great day.

No, I don't see your point. I jay-walked yesterday and then flipped off the person who honked at me... it was wrong and unacceptable, but nowhere near Vick's level of evil.
 
I

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What's the view like from those ivory towers?

Hammerhead had it correct....some of you people make me physically ill with your selective vitriol
 

Puffaluffagus

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What's the view like from those ivory towers?

Hammerhead had it correct....some of you people make me physically ill with your selective vitriol
There are many social ills in America that I don't give two shits about, but cruelty to dogs is not one of them.

Where I live it's just my dogs and I.
I'm a bit of a loner so my dogs are pretty much my whole life.
I talk to them all day, we play lots of games, and I dress the little one up in sweaters and jackets in the winter time.

Sorry that my extreme dislike for dog fighting makes you ill, try an aspirin, a bong hit, and a nice nap, see if that helps.
 

brotherindica

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Weird,

Normally agree with ya, but you made some assumptions in that post my friend.


lol

man perceptions are wack

the culture he is talking about is very black and very ghetto and yeah its a mother fucking world apart from many others

substitute slanging crack for dog fighting because in that culture both are socially acceptable

I'm no vic fan but unless the man still fights or promotes dog fighting i don't understand the need to condemn him

funny how a bunch of fucking white dudes can bitch and moan about a black dude killing dogs but you never hear an uproar when a black star talks about killing people or marginalizing women.

in fact if it was one of those threads im sure he would be held in a different light entirely

food for thought since many of you are gonad say some stupid shit like you "know the ghetto" but it is painfully obvious from your comments, you do not

funny how analogous the lack of compassion he had for the dogs is found here for him
i guess if you put it out there it will perpetuate

if your pissed off about a world without compassion, put a little out there and see what the cause and effect is, don't hide it away and perpetuate hate and judgement cause its just keeping that vibe alive

in the most simple terms

I did not read his response in the article as

"don't sweat me cause dog fighting aint no thing"

i read it as

"why are people sweating me harder over dog fighting than selling/using coke or heroin ro any of the other horrors that occur in the ghetto"


and hes right

when people have a greater emotional vestment with animals than people their objectivity regarding humanity is off

and its very common among growers to withdraw from society, befriend animals and plants because they are tired of the human dynamic but its one they will never escape

selfless compassion is the key to unlocking human understanding

its the best hope we have for change


So we're all white and withdrawn from society?? :thinking::thinking:


"why are people sweating me harder over dog fighting than selling/using coke or heroin or any of the other horrors that occur in the ghetto"



I just don't see the difference between wrong and wrong. Simply that he is back playing football, being treated like a celebrity, acting like he is sorry for his actions.


Do dealers, rapists, and murders get to go back on television to play a sport after their actions?


Selfless compassion for individuals who exhibit zero legitimate compassion or remorse, curious to see how that works out.



kinda got me thinking...

i'm intimately acquainted with dog fighting and it's history..


"these days"(say the last 40 years)dog fighting is exponentially less acceptable than ever in this countries history.


before anyone gets nutty:
i dont(and have never)roll dogs


You're absolutely right. Good point that shouldn't be forgotten. It's a wonderful thing animal cruelty is becoming less and less acceptable. Fighting animals, of any species, is a cruel, barbaric practice.


Just sad to see how many in the general public turn a blind eye to what he did simply because he is talented at football.
 

StealthDragon

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that's pathetic that he tries to play the race card...saying people just don't understand "black culture" ... imo having a different colored skin doesn't give you the right to torture animals....I wonder what other special rights he believes he has due to his "culture"
 

paulo73

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I sort it out for you

I sort it out for you

I am totally unable of passing across my point. Its cool, continue with your "opinions". Have a great day.

There. Better this way.
I am still waiting to understand your point. And i promised you that i am making the effort :ying:
You make all kinds of assumptions when confronted with some more emotional comments about animal torture but i am yet to read one decent argument/fact in order to try to justify the acceptance of this sad and criminal behavior.
I am not judging the Man i am judging his actions and saying that he should be made responsible for them. If it was one politician caught in the same kind of situation would you try to justify him?
Sounds to me that you are the one too fast to judge those offended by the actions instead of giving us any decent reasons, if any exist, for it to happens.
Again here is your chance :blowbubbles:
Please people don´t post more pics of maimed animals:comfort:makes me very sad:comfort:
 

dagnabit

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the idea that anyone should be barred from plying their legal trade after serving their time is vindictive and counterproductive...

vick can play ball now. in all likelihood he will refrain from dog fighting in the future with the added scrutiny. bar him from football,remove the spotlight and the ability to earn? sure as shit more dogs get fought...
 

Slangheat

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the idea that anyone should be barred from plying their legal trade after serving their time is vindictive and counterproductive...

vick can play ball now. in all likelihood he will refrain from dog fighting in the future with the added scrutiny. bar him from football,remove the spotlight and the ability to earn? sure as shit more dogs get fought...

It's just my feeling, and opinion, that when you are CAPABLE of committing such horrific acts, nobody should give a fuck about your ability to earn in the future. You fucked up so bad, you forfeited your ability to live in society amongst those who try to live for the greater good of all.

You say it's counterproductive to continue to scorn him after he's served his time, I say he didn't serve enough. Agree to disagree, but sadly (IMO, again), things are what they are.. he served his (light) sentence, and is being given the ability to live the good life, while the rest of us who try to live 'good', get to live the difficult life and are supposed to be entertained by him... excuse the obvious resentment in my tone.....

edit: by the way, wasn't he already making shitloads of cash, WHILE fighting dogs? He's stopped because he was caught, not that he now makes enough money to escape his culture. It's nobodies fault but his own if he went back to dogfighting because the NFL was no longer an option.
 
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Don't buy his jersey, beyond that, STFU

Don't like the laws?

Where have I heard that sob story before?
 
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