How many times do ya have to be told...dont use fed ex!

[Weird]

you aren't understanding this. They don't need anything. They can say they smelt something when they didn't. USPS has a LEO division dedicated solely to intercepting drugs and if they have any reason to believe there are drugs in there, regardless of the reason, they will get a warrant.

so your saying the post office has special postal inspectors who regardless of needing probable cause to get a warrant, just pick up the phone and get one every time they get a gut feeling?

bullshit

it has to smell. no matter what fucking carrier your package smells your fucked

so who you rather have someone who lets LEO legally open and inspect packages as they wish

or a carrier that is bound by the constitution to leave well enough alone unless they have a reasonable cause, one that is scrutinized by a judge?

see to me it sounds like "cali" plays a numbers game. what do they care they are sending the loss is on the receiver

in the numbers scenario the if the receivers are established they will insulate themselves past the carrier

Look up the statistics on how many daily packages are sent via ground through FedEx or ups. Now do the same for USPS. That's the first reason.

no please show me the ones you used to make that statement. those will be good enough for me

ohh wait let me guess, cali said

Second, 9 times out of 10 when FedEx independently finds a package with drugs in it (almost always when sent via overnight) they just throw it away.

right in the basket next to the desk ?

id love to see you qualify that statistic if your trying to say it leads to less investigations

if you were in the know you would know its on the receiver not the sender and you can anonymously send first class mail.

if your in the know you'd know that the the receiver that is getting first class or ground packages (unsigned delivery) has to mitigate the liability of receiving by more than just the carrier but by insulating themselves legally as receiver

once we bring the legal word in regardless of your paranoia you have to add your rights as guaranteed by the carrier into the risk/reward equation

this is where lawyers, law, constitution and all that jazz does seem to matter

who gives a fuck what happened decades ago lol. Times have changed bro.

I could care less what you personally do. But don't come on here and tell people it's safe to send weight via USPS unless you have years of experience with sending bulk across the country.

first of all decades under your belt doesn't mean decades ago it means decades of application and observation

i suggest a lawyer to understand law if you are uncomfortable interpreting it for yourself

you have no idea about the legal system, the postal system or its "leo" component but you sure do project a crazy vibe and give some staunch advice based on "what cali says"

 

[kmk420kali]

I send out packages all the time--If the Postmaster, or the dogs can small it...bad on you--

 

[Weird]

So your saying take the chance and then fight it in court if you get caught?

No not what I said, not that at this point it matters, who with any respectable game would conceptually receive anything illegal to something tied to them?

your convinced that the USPS has its own branch of storm trooper raping the constitution

cause cali says

really what he fuck do I know

People with game here I know have lawyers on retainer and are "advised"

maybe one day they will graduate to consult a collective named "cali" that's over saturated its own market with weed

When the judge calls the postal inspector in and says "did you actually smell weed coming from that package" and he says "yes your honor", the end.

yeah but when fed ex or UPS find it they close the office and have a company clambake

OHH WAIT they just put it int he dumpster cause that's legal

let me guess, cali told ya this is exactly how the long arm of the postal law works?

the only packages aren't turned over to LEO are skimmed by the drivers. They open a package and it ain't contraband they just deliver it re-taped

Fed Ex and UPS openly comply with US law and arent going to compromise their multi billion dollar businesses by throwing contraband in the trash

when it comes to shipping contraband, decades under your belt means nothing. It's all about having inside info, and RECENT experience.

yeah cause as we age we stop living in the present and only live in the past

cali teach you your impeccable logic too?

Keep shipping usps im sure you'll be fine. but hey if your busted no worries you can just drop like 20k on a lawyer and hope you come out clean.

if your proactive you speak to a lawyer or research the law first you don't have to get custied by one in court

and sorry my bud isnt so suck it has to travel far and im not some fucking noob who decide to jump onto the grow bandwagon when it became legal or mainstream or in a place that is saturated with every tom dick and harry growing pot because its been made so painless and easy

btw to those interested, (and for research purposes only, of course nobody here would ever ship anything illegal right?) UPS recently started requiring ID to ship any package, so keep that in mind.

yeah cause cali says

 

[Guest3498]

Everyone I've ever known who knows what's up has used USPS and only USPS. You've gotta be crazy to use anything else, end of story.

 

[longearedfriend]

I noticed some of you write in the same style as me

one line at a time

like a robot

beep beep

 

[headiez247]

so your saying the post office has special postal inspectors who regardless of needing probable cause to get a warrant, just pick up the phone and get one every time they get a gut feeling?

bullshit

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

and yes. Just like if you piss off a cop he can lie and fuck you over more.

so who you rather have someone who lets LEO legally open and inspect packages as they wish

yes. because ups/fedex sends 100x more packages via ground then usps, so the odds of them coming across your specific package is much much less then via usps.

see to me it sounds like "cali" plays a numbers game. what do they care they are sending the loss is on the receiver

because some of us care about the receiver and would prefer them not to get busted.

no please show me the ones you used to make that statement. those will be good enough for me

I'm not doing the work for you but here is a teaser. In 2004, the FedEx average daily express package volume was 3,167,000. For USPS it was 149,659.

I'm done with you. Peace.

 

[Weird]

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

and yes. Just like if you piss off a cop he can lie and fuck you over more.

lol your a riot, click on investigations and there are no special postal drug personnel

so im glad to see your proving my point

yes. because ups/fedex sends 100x more packages via ground then usps, so the odds of them coming across your specific package is much much less then via usps.

according to who?


show me first class vs ground UPS and Fed ex respectively

because some of us care about the receiver and would prefer them not to get busted.

lol so your the collective us that is cali?

I'm not doing the work for you but here is a teaser. In 2004, the FedEx average daily express package volume was 3,167,000. For USPS it was 149,659.

I'm done with you. Peace.

your classic

it was your work which you still haven't shown a source

those are statistics for express packages which according to you are "dangerous" and aren't used

so the only real fucking statistics that are applicable are ground rate UPS and Fed Ex VS ground rate USPS first class

cause these are the methods of shipping we are discussing

 

[Weird]

http://www.nalc.org/postal/perform/productivity.html

USPS mail volume and delivery network

The U.S. Postal Service handles more than 40 percent of the world’s mail volume, five times more than the Japanese Post Office, the next largest carrier of letter mail.

In fiscal year 2007, the USPS sorted and delivered nearly 213 billion pieces of mail, about 703 million pieces a day.

The USPS delivers more items in one day than Federal Express does in a year and more items in one week than United Parcel Service does in a year.


The Postal Service delivers to 146 million businesses and households each day, six days per week. UPS delivers to 8 million addresses daily while FedEx serves even fewer.

The number of delivery points (households and businesses) served by the Postal Service grows by 5,900 every delivery day—some 1.8 million addresses a year.

Each letter carrier delivers more than 43 tons of mail per year, averaging more than 2,300 letters, cards, magazines and circulars per day on approximately 240,000 city and rural routes.

The Postal Service processes more than 44 million changes of address each year—as 17 percent of the nation's population moves every year—and forwards mail free of charge. In 2007, 73 million changes of address were completed electronically.

The USPS operates the largest fleet of commercial vehicles in the country—some 212,000 vans and trucks.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Weird, word. Ownd

 

[Tronic]

"Shut the fuck up Donny"

 

[Weird]

Weird, word. Ownd

really im not trying to own and hate to think i come off that way

if i didn't posses the same mind set at one time i wouldn't be able to understand it so well

part of the pressure one has on the psych after being civilly disobedient

it turns into a them vs us

babylon vs zion

well after a very long time and a very great cost looking for zion and finding it i realized some things

that the state of zion or babylon comes comes within

and that i had to pass through babylon to get to zion

and seeing that potential within all people, that relative eternal happiness is within us all

i stopped seeing everyone as so hostile and oppositional but as simply being human it brings a clearer understanding of relativity in regards to the human dynamic

i think this is one of the greatest psychological detriments to growing in this climate

how it breeds a them vs us contempt

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

i think this is one of the greatest psychological detriments to growing in this climate

how it breeds a them vs us contempt

That's because they declared war on us, their own people, and they're fighting dirty.

 

[headiez247]

http://www.nalc.org/postal/perform/productivity.html

USPS mail volume and delivery network

The U.S. Postal Service handles more than 40 percent of the world’s mail volume, five times more than the Japanese Post Office, the next largest carrier of letter mail.

In fiscal year 2007, the USPS sorted and delivered nearly 213 billion pieces of mail, about 703 million pieces a day.

The USPS delivers more items in one day than Federal Express does in a year and more items in one week than United Parcel Service does in a year.


The Postal Service delivers to 146 million businesses and households each day, six days per week. UPS delivers to 8 million addresses daily while FedEx serves even fewer.

The number of delivery points (households and businesses) served by the Postal Service grows by 5,900 every delivery day—some 1.8 million addresses a year.

Each letter carrier delivers more than 43 tons of mail per year, averaging more than 2,300 letters, cards, magazines and circulars per day on approximately 240,000 city and rural routes.

The Postal Service processes more than 44 million changes of address each year—as 17 percent of the nation's population moves every year—and forwards mail free of charge. In 2007, 73 million changes of address were completed electronically.

The USPS operates the largest fleet of commercial vehicles in the country—some 212,000 vans and trucks.

Come on man. how can you insult me for not giving accurate statistics then you throw this up?

That figure includes LETTERS, which is the bulk of USPS's business. Inspectors don't go after letters. They go after packages, for which UPS and FedEx have domination on.

I'm not gonna implicate myself on a internet forum but needless to say I have past experience and insight into the way this works. I had one package intercepted...the one I decided to send overnight. Every other one went through, along with every other bulk shipper that I knew. Never met one person who sent bulk via USPS.

To each their own. There are busts on both ends.

I sent you to the link to the Postal Inspectors Site to show it exists. I shouldn't have to state the obvious and tell you that just because the website doesn't show drug projects doesn't mean it's not going on.

Some people would ask if I know a postal inspector since I seem to be so sure of myself. This would be a very good question to ask.

I don't know how more obvious I can make it but bottom line I hope everyone stays safe, and good luck guys. In the end I'm just stating my experience in an effort to help others stay safe, nothing more.

 

[usda101]

These issues we debate can become contentous an heated an seem like a pissing contest some time . My limited knowledge an experience on the subject retracts me from commentting . But havn
someone with mutal concern for receiver is a comfort at least , lol .

 

[Dislexus]

I have never heard of a USPS shipment even being intercepted. You would really really have to fuck it up, or the forklift tears it open or something.

I have heard lots of FedEx and UPS stories. FedEx moreso than UPS. Recently someone getting a shipment from Montana via FedEx... the box was opened and rifled through, the shit taken, all the packaging put back in the box, and the box mailed on to its final destination! That was just an employee ganking it.

The main issue is FedEx has dogs in the facilities.. and other private carriers I assure you. The DEA will be focusing on domestic interstate traffickers and putting more dogs in facilities, especially in California and Oregon.

Also if you know anything about logistics, they have the facilities to handle those volumes, so really its a matter of density. Believe me, FedEx ain't overwhelmed.

The odds are much greater for an interception through FedEx and private carriers.

This is just fact.

headiez, stop putting out BAD INFO you're fucking with people's lives. Are you one of those freaks who thinks the USPS is communism, that its unfair the government competing with private co's, etc?

 

[usda101]

I know someone who got 15 popped with an inhouse wide receiver . It made it thru an I here they sent it back , An the sender tried to pick it up an was arrested . Usps . Everything was smooth till that happened . More success than failures .

 

[Dislexus]

So it made it thru the USPS to the receiver, then the receiver sent it back? Receiver probably fucked up packaging or was informant. Can't really understand what you're trying to say exactly, though.

 

[headiez247]

I have never heard of a USPS shipment even being intercepted.

From less then 24 hours ago

http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrod...na-the-mail/7ShRE4PdzuEUYnTYAEbPeN/index.html

 

[Dislexus]

O wow you mean I could've GOOGLED IT??!?!

LOL

So now I'm supposed to google all the Fed-ex and UPS related busts and we compare google result numbers right?

You'll still be wrong.. Fed-Ex is not the way to go, unless you want to go down.

 

[headiez247]

insert childish wise ass rant from Dislexus here

you said you had never heard of a usps bust before. Which means you live in a cave. Busts go down across all companies, on a daily basis, so i showed u an example of one

You'll still be wrong.. Fed-Ex is not the way to go, unless you want to go down.

I guess myself and everyone I know has just been lucky over the years.